Sage or Demon Axe BM in PvE server

Azlin - Sanctuary

In a Pve server i usually go zenning/killing multiple mobs at once, questing, help factionmates with quests etc, and when i hit 90 i'll prob do some TWs. So i was wondering in this kind of situations i'm in, is it better to become sage or demon? i understand that demon is a bit more for pvp circumstances but its not always that i go to TWs. but if u were to become a sage, they have couple of skills that if u get them to sage, the skill will increase in dmg for example, Axe mastery, Aeolian blade. While for demon, demon roar of pride is 100% hit and the 1 spark skill for axe will has its stun increased by 1.5 secs... again please consider the situations i'm mostly in and hope to see what people say bout it :Pb:thanks

Dreaded_Fate - Lost City

Sage looks better in PvE and is not bad in PvP also if you decide to. It also depends what your weapon choice is. You would gain a lot more chi as sage which would be able to help alot more people faster 8)

Joshcja - Sanctuary

b:cutelook at the skills pick the path that suits YOU

also are you a "pure" axe bm or multi path at least enough to splice say poles?

yes it makes a differance considering that the commonly accepted veiw is that axe/fists get the most out of demon and poles/swords get the most from sage

im neither so im just regurgitating what i've read/heard

once again its your own personal choice please stop making sage/demon tell me how to breath threads and read the skills people

Dosinn - Dreamweaver

Go check out ectacomb.net, its got the sage/demon versions of ever classes skills. Beyond that, ive got no other advice.

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Kedth - Sanctuary

boo4u wrote: »

im in a Pve server and i went demon due to the fact of some of the skills..and the demon erruption thats give is a DD beast!I havent updated any other skills to demon yet but will sooner or later.Sage..blah..i have no problems gettin chi/sparks at all since im mainly doing dding on aoe/bosses...just make chi/spark pots..who needs the stinkin sage really..hell i been seeing more demons than anything lately because hell is awsome and the power it provides!b:angryb:angryb:angry

Ehm... someone is hyped a bit about demon huh? >.>

Both paths are good, it really depends on your playing style. Demon gives u speed (spark), crits and some DD (Demon's HF is nasty). Sage gives you chi, def and a better base Damage (masteries are +90%).

As said above, check ecatomb and see the skills u use... and then choose accordingly. That will be your best choice

I hope it helps b:victory

Telarith - Sanctuary

If you go demon, getting demon drake sweep goes a long way to close the gap in chi between sage and demon. And Demon Heaven's Flame far and away blows away the sage version.

Azlin - Sanctuary

thx for the replies, but i am aiming to be a BM that can actually tank and do pretty good deal of dmg... so knowing that if i become sage i can be tougher and can get chi etc but then if i become demon i can do more dmg but will not be as tough...

Edit: my stats are more of pole/axe bm

Kedth - Sanctuary

Then you should aim for Sage.

Sage spark that reduces +25% damage taken + 90% of sage masteries will work great for you playing style. That and sage's chi management are a great fit.

Also, your phys buff willl be a +90% during 30 mins always. Better for tanking than having a +75% + another 75% during 15 secs.... u dont want to be spamming Golden Bell if you are tanking XD.

Azlin - Sanctuary

hehe i was aiming for sage but recently i was wondering why ppl would go demon so had to find out but seems like sage does suit my playing style more :PP

Denrae - Heavens Tear

I honestly would not make my decision based upon Demon or Sage sparks. Make a list of pros and cons for each skill for both Demon and Sage and choose from there.

Also, Demon BMs don't necessarily have low defense/HP compared to Sage BMs. It's all in the matter of your build.

Telarith - Sanctuary

Well, fisters can hold aggro best for tanking purposes. And because of the speed boost of our spark, we can perma-spark and have non-stop high damage and chi gain compared to a sage, that with their spark can only reach 3.33 attack rate/ 4 if they do Cyclone every 20 secs. So as tank, they gain less chi even with their skill, and deal less damage even with their higher base mastery.

Demon also has more all purpose adds in many cases than sage. We get an evasion 50% debuff chance, guaranteed crit boosting, longer stun, guaranteed stun, extra stuns, chances for extra chi gain, maxed marrow magic that doesn't cripple us to physical damage, and every 59 skill add for demon is very nice.

Sage is usually chi saves on skills, chances for benefits, and some base level boosts a bit higher than demon in actual effect. While the spark reduction is nice when it hits, most of the time combos are made in advance planning of what can be done with what you have, and order is set. Saving a spark at random can be nice, but harder to work with than if you knew it beforehand. And some of the benefits are nice, but have a 20-25% chance of proc'ing; again, nice when they hit but can't be counted on to.

Alot of this is opinion mixed with the facts, but just looking at the sage skills shows a large majority are all chi based chances, and other ones are either straight damage adds or low chances of a proc. It isn't as exciting for many people as the demon branch adds.

XShadowx - Harshlands

Sage ftw b:bye

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