TT80 weapons... suggestion?

SashaSlick - Sanctuary
SashaSlick - Sanctuary Posts: 139 Arc User
edited November 2009 in Archer
Hello Archers... i'm currently using unicorn bow<--- i know its not the best

Now i'm saving for a TT80 weapon. U guys hav any idea for me?
Many say i shld use the unicorn as mold for my TT80.
What u guys think?
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  • Falcondance - Heavens Tear
    Falcondance - Heavens Tear Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Yes, TT80 bow - Crimson Horn: Soulsmasher - is definitely the best 8x weapon. Go for it if you can, it costs a lot. I know -I- am going for it.
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  • SashaSlick - Sanctuary
    SashaSlick - Sanctuary Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    so guess i'll go for Crimson Horn: Soulsmasher

    any1 knows how long i'm gona stick with this bow?
    Shld i keep using it till TT90?
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    SashaSlick - Sanctuary wrote: »
    so guess i'll go for Crimson Horn: Soulsmasher

    any1 knows how long i'm gona stick with this bow?
    Shld i keep using it till TT90?

    if you have it refined high i believe it is usable until 95, when you can pick up lunar bow. Legypoo has her Crimsonhorn +7 and is going to be using it until lvl 95.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    You can use it in your early 90s. If you ignore Gloom, it is only a little worse than Dragonbow. If you add Gloom, I'd say they are compareable.

    For reference: Weapon Comparison for 70+

    You may want to browse through what's available within the Useful Archer Links.
  • SashaSlick - Sanctuary
    SashaSlick - Sanctuary Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You can use it in your early 90s. If you ignore Gloom, it is only a little worse than Dragonbow. If you add Gloom, I'd say they are compareable.

    For reference: Weapon Comparison for 70+

    You may want to browse through what's available within the Useful Archer Links.

    WaW!!! thats a good link ty soo much..
    But got 1 question.. what is gloom or frenzy?
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    its a % chance to take 5% of your mp for a huge boost in weapon attack.
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Accelerated - Sanctuary
    Accelerated - Sanctuary Posts: 1,048 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    SashaSlick - Sanctuary wrote: »
    WaW!!! thats a good link ty soo much..
    But got 1 question.. what is gloom or frenzy?

    Gloom: Has a chance to greatly increase physical attack at the cost of losing 5% MP. (☆Crimson Horn: Soulsmasher)
    Frenzy: A certain chance to increase one self's physical attack greatly, but reduce physical defense of oneself simultaneously. (☆Broad Land)

    Frenzy is the MY proc mod name, while Unrelenting is the PWI proc mod name.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Oops, fixed.

    FYI, all those colored words are links to the weapon at pwdatabase.com or to the actual build at pwcalc .

    Given the double drop weekend, I suggest you keep an eye out for cheap Golden Spirits in the AH. You need 2 of them to make the Crimson Horn: Soulsmasher.
  • IKrue - Lost City
    IKrue - Lost City Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    i went with the TT80 chained:Jail.

    :3
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    chained jail is icky :|.
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • SashaSlick - Sanctuary
    SashaSlick - Sanctuary Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    nice ty for the info.. and i checked the AH for gold spirit and DANG it expensive LoL. Since its a TT item.. can some1 tell me which TT i can get it from? and which boss drops it?
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  • CeliaZ - Sanctuary
    CeliaZ - Sanctuary Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    SashaSlick - Sanctuary wrote: »
    nice ty for the info.. and i checked the AH for gold spirit and DANG it expensive LoL. Since its a TT item.. can some1 tell me which TT i can get it from? and which boss drops it?

    TT1-3 Shooting aur.. (Dimentora?).. But it will cost you about the same if you say to your squad 'I want to keep the gold mat'.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    chained jail is icky :|.

    not sarendena's chained jain! b:dirty
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    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
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  • SashaSlick - Sanctuary
    SashaSlick - Sanctuary Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    nice.. ty all for the infob:cute
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  • Hellsarcher - Harshlands
    Hellsarcher - Harshlands Posts: 965 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    i for one chose the deadly chain jail. The stun effect is amazing in pvp. I have stun locked 9x mages and if ur going for raw damage go for chain jail. High spike damage. I got a +7 chain jail and it is amzing =)
  • SashaSlick - Sanctuary
    SashaSlick - Sanctuary Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Hellsarcher - Harshlands wrote: »
    i for one chose the deadly chain jail. The stun effect is amazing in pvp. I have stun locked 9x mages and if ur going for raw damage go for chain jail. High spike damage. I got a +7 chain jail and it is amzing =)

    hmm.... sounds good.. how long is the stun?
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  • Hellsarcher - Harshlands
    Hellsarcher - Harshlands Posts: 965 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    SashaSlick - Sanctuary wrote: »
    hmm.... sounds good.. how long is the stun?

    3 seconds but with combined stun and take aim you have a chance to stun lock as a archer ;P
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Hellsarcher - Harshlands wrote: »
    3 seconds but with combined stun and take aim you have a chance to stun lock as a archer ;P
    dont listen to this dude! it makes the absolute worst 90 weapon avaliable! get crimson horn, or the xbow that leads to blinding radiance, flash fire. BR is way scarier in terms of xbows lol.
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    lol Chained Jail is actually a decent weapon. It's a short-term solution to 8x PvP. Try to buy a pre-made, pre-refined one for cheap with intent to sell later if you want to look into it.
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    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
    Qui: b:dirty
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Saren's chained jail was scary. b:cry
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  • Shao_on_Fire - Heavens Tear
    Shao_on_Fire - Heavens Tear Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I had previously decided I was getting one of the bound 80 weapons, either the CH:S or the Squall, or the FlashFire, but after reading over the charts here, I think my fellow Archers have finally tipped the scales for me.

    The Crimson Horn:Soulsmasher it is.

    I was pretty surprised that this bow outclassed the Squall, especially given the Squall's DPS increase.... What would we do without awesome case studies??? b:laugh
  • IKrue - Lost City
    IKrue - Lost City Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    clearly a Chained jail is the best option, if you buy it with intent to sell..

    I should have mentioned before that mine is +5 and i do intend to sell it to get a better Xbow in the 90s.

    But i'll ride this bow out becuase i wuv it <3
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    A chained jail might prove more useful due to the stunning aspect to it. However, you would need to get rid of it later on since the blinding radiance path is way more useful in the long run.

    The Blinding radiance path:
    Swiftwind -> Thundercrack -> Flashfire -> Blinding Radiance
  • Kireina - Dreamweaver
    Kireina - Dreamweaver Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Shao_on_Fire - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I had previously decided I was getting one of the bound 80 weapons, either the CH:S or the Squall, or the FlashFire, but after reading over the charts here, I think my fellow Archers have finally tipped the scales for me.

    The Crimson Horn:Soulsmasher it is.

    I was pretty surprised that this bow outclassed the Squall, especially given the Squall's DPS increase.... What would we do without awesome case studies??? b:laugh
    Elviron - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    A chained jail might prove more useful due to the stunning aspect to it. However, you would need to get rid of it later on since the blinding radiance path is way more useful in the long run.

    The Blinding radiance path:
    Swiftwind -> Thundercrack -> Flashfire -> Blinding Radiance

    Or just skip that entire tree and go with the Crimson Horn: Soulsmasher, which is the weapon with the best DPS until 95.

    The Stun could be useful and I've thought about making one too, but in all honesty, the chances of a "special" triggering is about 5%. Bosses are immune and monsters will most likely be dead right after your initial stun with Stun Arrow runs out. Perhaps if RB monsters are susceptive to Stun it may be somewhat useful, I'm not sure about that though, never 1v1ed them.

    The influence of Gloom however is a more permanent solution when doing bosses/RBs. The bonus lasts for quite some time and triggers quite frequently after it runs out. Where Stun is useful in certain situations, Gloom is effective in any situation. Not to mention the weapon has Interval bonus and is faster than an Xbow regardless, so you'll trigger Gloom more per minute.
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  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    @Kireina
    Well I was talking only from a xBow perspective.

    I am pretty sure the Soulsmasher is an awesome weapon and would definitely win when it comes to DPS.

    However, should the soulsmasher be difficult to acquire, the flashfire -> blinding radiance -> Flashing Glory isnt a bad alternative. The extra crit % and atk would be helpful.
  • Kireina - Dreamweaver
    Kireina - Dreamweaver Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Elviron - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    However, should the soulsmasher be difficult to acquire

    It'll cost you around 10-11m if you don't have any Myst. Chips or Mats at hand. If you have that in coins, you got yourself a Soulsmasher. You need to get;

    90x Myst. Chips (1.6-1.7m if bought with Tokens)
    2x Golden Spirit (4m and 90 Chips)
    10x Feng's Iron Bars (4m)
    20x Klunky Sword (practically free if you TT once or twice)
    18x Ultimate Subs (1.1-1.2m if bought with Tokens)


    Additionally, it will cost you 1.8-2m or so if you have to add the 2nd socket yourself.
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  • Shao_on_Fire - Heavens Tear
    Shao_on_Fire - Heavens Tear Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Kireina - Dreamweaver wrote: »

    Additionally, it will cost you 1.8-2m or so if you have to add the 2nd socket yourself.

    Ah, then comes the eternal question: Ambers or Garnets...? *sigh* Decisions, decisions....
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Kireina - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    It'll cost you around 10-11m if you don't have any Myst. Chips or Mats at hand. If you have that in coins, you got yourself a Soulsmasher. You need to get;

    90x Myst. Chips (1.6-1.7m if bought with Tokens)
    2x Golden Spirit (4m and 90 Chips)
    10x Feng's Iron Bars (4m)
    20x Klunky Sword (practically free if you TT once or twice)
    18x Ultimate Subs (1.1-1.2m if bought with Tokens)


    Additionally, it will cost you 1.8-2m or so if you have to add the 2nd socket yourself.
    that varies depending on server to server, golden spirit is only 2-2.5m on sanc. fengs iron bars are also 225-250k here P:. its not really a hard weapon to get at all.
    Ah, then comes the eternal question: Ambers or Garnets...? *sigh* Decisions, decisions....
    youre not a barb or bm! garnets man, garnets!
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Shao_on_Fire - Heavens Tear
    Shao_on_Fire - Heavens Tear Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »


    youre not a barb or bm! garnets man, garnets!

    lol, I've seen so many bows go either way- I guess it depends on the player. I always find it interesting to see which way each archer I encounter goes...
  • Kireina - Dreamweaver
    Kireina - Dreamweaver Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Shao_on_Fire - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Ah, then comes the eternal question: Ambers or Garnets...? *sigh* Decisions, decisions....

    Garnets. Just use Misty Rings if you feel as if you lack Accuracy.
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    that varies depending on server to server, golden spirit is only 2-2.5m on sanc. fengs iron bars are also 225-250k here P:. its not really a hard weapon to get at all.

    I play on the same server as him, and yeah, I said 4m for 2 Golden Spirits, so it's even on DW/Sanc.
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