Dagger BM
Malley - Lost City
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with assassins coming out soon I've been thinking about dagger blademasters
while most of the good bm skills require a specific weapon there are some that only require a melee weapon
and im guessing a dagger is a melee weapon
I've also read somewhere that daggers do damage based on dex and with blades getting more points per dex then archers do the evasion and damage would be insane
but Im betting my money that daggers will only be for assassins
any ideas?
ps. if this is posted somewhere else already let it die
and excuse my typos im sure there are some
while most of the good bm skills require a specific weapon there are some that only require a melee weapon
and im guessing a dagger is a melee weapon
I've also read somewhere that daggers do damage based on dex and with blades getting more points per dex then archers do the evasion and damage would be insane
but Im betting my money that daggers will only be for assassins
any ideas?
ps. if this is posted somewhere else already let it die
and excuse my typos im sure there are some
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i'm not sure either :P, yes it would b awesum if they would make a skill tree of dagger for bms as well, but i guess the skills would b assassin based so it would defeat the oint of them making assassins tho T.TBring your all your attacks against my armor b:pleased0
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Or they can place the Dagger weapon into the same category as Fist/Claw/Edge weapons.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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yeah I dont think there would be a dagger skills tree for bms
but if dagger bm becomes possable I could see more bms as tanks
full dex dagger bm vs tank barb?0 -
dagger is assassin-specific. only assassins can use them
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(was good idea in theory tho)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I thought so
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I didn't know there were class specific weapons? It says in the description assassins use light armour, but I'm pretty sure there's nothing stopping you using heavy (or even arcane lol).0
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_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »I didn't know there were class specific weapons?
Crossbows. There may be more...0 -
ElMiedo - Heavens Tear wrote: »Crossbows. There may be more...
Slingshots as well as the crossbows.0 -
Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »dagger is assassin-specific. only assassins can use them
/thread
(was good idea in theory tho)
provide proof that this is true or dont post please[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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probably you need to pump lots of DEX to use dagger so not much STR for heavy_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »I didn't know there were class specific weapons? It says in the description assassins use light armour, but I'm pretty sure there's nothing stopping you using heavy (or even arcane lol).0 -
Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »provide proof that this is true or dont post please
Assassins will have skills based for Dagger use only.
No other class will have these skills available = Daggers are Assassin Specific
"Assassin can use all weapons except those w/ class limit, but skills only usable w/ dagger.)"
The information is on a few sites, but here is an easy one on this forum.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »Assassins will have skills based for Dagger use only.
No other class will have these skills available = Daggers are Assassin Specific
"Assassin can use all weapons except those w/ class limit, but skills only usable w/ dagger.)"
The information is on a few sites, but here is an easy one on this forum.
Archers, or any class for that matter, can use any type of weapons (except slingshots and crossbows, which are archer class locked) without having skills that are relevant to them. Just because archers do not have any fist/sword/axe/pole skills, doesn't mean they cannot use them. Your point is invalid and is not plausible for daggers to be class locked. Not to mention that daggers can easily be treated as being a part of the fist/edge family.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »Assassins will have skills based for Dagger use only.
No other class will have these skills available = Daggers are Assassin Specific
"Assassin can use all weapons except those w/ class limit, but skills only usable w/ dagger.)"
The information is on a few sites, but here is an easy one on this forum.
learn to read posts before commenting on them b:surrender she said that weapons were "Assassin only" i said provide proof all you did was provide that assassin have dagger skills.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Accelerated - Sanctuary wrote: »Archers, or any class for that matter, can use any type of weapons (except slingshots and crossbows, which are archer class locked) without having skills that are relevant to them using other types of weapons. Just because archers do not have any fist/sword/axe/pole skills, doesn't mean they cannot use them. Your point is invalid and is not plausible for daggers to be class locked. Not to mention that daggers can easily be treated as being a part of the fist/edge family.
I can use a bow, fists, axes ect too, but skills that a Cleric has will not work with those weapons.
What is the point of having Daggers if you cannot use the skills? For show?
I know my fists and bow are for show only and I have to change weapons to use healing and attack skills.
Anyone can have any weapon, it does not mean that you will get the full potential of them. That is all I was saying. Therefore esentially Daggers are class locked in that you would not be able to use any viable skill with them = whats the point?
It is like a veno pet versus an all-class pet.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »I can use a bow, fists, axes ect too, but skills that a Cleric has will not work with those weapons.
What is the point of having Daggers if you cannot use the skills? For show?
I know my fists and bow are for show only and I have to change weapons to use healing and attack skills.
Anyone can have any weapon, it does not mean that you will get the full potential of them. That is all I was saying. Therefore esentially Daggers are class locked in that you would not be able to use any viable skill with them = whats the point?
It is like a veno pet versus an all-class pet.
That's why I said:Accelerated - Sanctuary wrote: »Not to mention that daggers can easily be treated as being a part of the fist/edge family.
Some archers take full advantage of their ranking gear extra add-on to manipulate the interval additions with fists and other interval modded equipments. They may not be able to use much fist related skills, but they can still manage to deal very high damage in split seconds. So yes, some people do have a plausible reason into using weapons that do not have any relevance to their skill tree.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »I can use a bow, fists, axes ect too, but skills that a Cleric has will not work with those weapons.
What is the point of having Daggers if you cannot use the skills? For show?
I know my fists and bow are for show only and I have to change weapons to use healing and attack skills.
Anyone can have any weapon, it does not mean that you will get the full potential of them. That is all I was saying. Therefore esentially Daggers are class locked in that you would not be able to use any viable skill with them = whats the point?
It is like a veno pet versus an all-class pet.
The points is half of the Blademaster skill tree only requires a melee weapon to be equiped
so we could still use half of our skills with a dagger
2 stuns, 2 aoes, marrows, sutra, Bell, leaps, sprints, smack & dragons bane
While we would be missing out on some of our better skills we would still have the basics covered with all that extra dex
all that as long as daggers arnt class specific like cross bows and sling shots
But im almost positive they would be
and like someone said earlier daggers could also be treaded like a fist that would open up more fist builds pure dex light armor dagger and heavy armor fist/claw0 -
RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »I can use a bow, fists, axes ect too, but skills that a Cleric has will not work with those weapons.
What is the point of having Daggers if you cannot use the skills? For show?
I know my fists and bow are for show only and I have to change weapons to use healing and attack skills.
Anyone can have any weapon, it does not mean that you will get the full potential of them. That is all I was saying. Therefore esentially Daggers are class locked in that you would not be able to use any viable skill with them = whats the point?
It is like a veno pet versus an all-class pet.
We have skills that work so long as we are wielding any melee weapon, and two of our three level 79 skills work even if we have a bow or magic weapon equipped.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
some daggers might have 'assasin only' in text description like archers weapons
but this is not the point, you probably need same dex. as fists or probably more so not that many points for equal lvl axe and dagger in the same time
i havent read about daggers in pwi but i think, like in all other games, it has less p.atk than fists but more atk speed0
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