NOTICE: 2x Drops, Experience & Spirit this weekend!

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  • JollyJaguar - Sanctuary
    JollyJaguar - Sanctuary Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I just told my guild Im gonna drag them into several TT marathons this weekend b:victory

    Thanks spoons and Xarfox
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  • NaturesSoul - Sanctuary
    NaturesSoul - Sanctuary Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    this is definatly wicked maby i can reach lvl 40 in the couple days
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  • Magicsaber - Dreamweaver
    Magicsaber - Dreamweaver Posts: 727 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Here some reflection of 2x Drops ... in Perfect world.

    goldpileperfectworld.jpg
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  • Kitsuneh - Lost City
    Kitsuneh - Lost City Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Buy your ultimate subs now because soon people will be selling them +100k eab:chuckle
  • Santacruz - Heavens Tear
    Santacruz - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    FF runs here we come!
  • Aelebera - Heavens Tear
    Aelebera - Heavens Tear Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    i can farm more mats now, cause you will all be hiding out in dungeons b:laugh
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  • Lostin - Heavens Tear
    Lostin - Heavens Tear Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    eatwithspoons wrote: »
    You heard it right!

    This weekend from Friday, November 13th at 5:00pm until Monday, November 16th at 11:00am Pacific Standard Time we will be having a server event.

    Between the times listed above, all servers will have a 2x increase on the following:

    Experience
    Spirit
    Drops

    Training Esotericas will not stack with this increase.


    Here's hoping you have a great weekend!

    Double drop as in instead of 1 hay i'll get 2?
  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Lostin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Double drop as in instead of 1 hay i'll get 2?

    nobody said anything about double, it's 2x droprate, which means stuff has a higher chance to drop.
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  • Lostin - Heavens Tear
    Lostin - Heavens Tear Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    eatwithspoons wrote: »
    nobody said anything about double, it's 2x droprate, which means stuff has a higher chance to drop.

    i'm still a nub don't get angry b:sad
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Ok, sooo Im reallllly excited about this. omg omg omg, where to grind? TT runs and FF runs spammed this weekendb:victory

    ty ty ty PWi for this. lol
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  • XbladeXBm - Dreamweaver
    XbladeXBm - Dreamweaver Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Soooo glad Bm's can tank FF. so we dont have to wait on the limited supply of barbs willing
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Lostin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i'm still a nub don't get angry b:sad

    i honestly thought 2x meant double drops too <_<

    thanks for clerifying spoons
  • Kagaro - Dreamweaver
    Kagaro - Dreamweaver Posts: 299 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    eatwithspoons wrote: »
    nobody said anything about double, it's 2x droprate, which means stuff has a higher chance to drop.
    awesome so i have a better chance of getting molds?

    also, does the exp and spirit double on quests? what about 2x exp for genies and pets?
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Does this make red names drop twice as much as well? :p
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  • Centetric - Lost City
    Centetric - Lost City Posts: 1,528 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Does this make red names drop twice as much as well? :p

    LOLOLOLOL THIS b:laugh
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    eatwithspoons wrote: »
    nobody said anything about double, it's 2x droprate, which means stuff has a higher chance to drop.
    How exactly does that work? An item which had a 20% chance to drop has a 40% chance to drop. But an item which had an 80% chance to drop has a ???? chance to drop?

    From a programming standpoint, the simplest way to implement this is to just double the number of drops. If you try to get fancy and double the drop rate of each item on the drop table, it changes nothing. Previously, the sum of all items on the drop table add up to 100%. Now it adds up to 200%. But since the number of drops is still the same, you have no net change in drops. Your random number generator just picks a number between 0.00 and 1.99, instead of between 0.00 and 0.99.
  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    How exactly does that work? An item which had a 20% chance to drop has a 40% chance to drop. But an item which had an 80% chance to drop has a ???? chance to drop?

    From a programming standpoint, the simplest way to implement this is to just double the number of drops. If you try to get fancy and double the drop rate of each item on the drop table, it changes nothing. Previously, the sum of all items on the drop table add up to 100%. Now it adds up to 200%. But since the number of drops is still the same, you have no net change in drops. Your random number generator just picks a number between 0.00 and 1.99, instead of between 0.00 and 0.99.

    This person was under the impression that they would literally get two of everything that drops from what I gather, so the drop rate is doubled, but that doesn't mean you get 2 of everythingb:chuckle
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  • Centetric - Lost City
    Centetric - Lost City Posts: 1,528 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    THATS AWESOME b:dirty
    the PW database drop rate on apo pages = 46.7649% |||||| 30.1218%

    double that = IM happy
    time to go and farm 1-3 for apo pages b:dirty
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    drop rates, as far as i know work like this:

    regular mobs have a drop rate of 1 at the same level as you, this meant every mob has a chance to drop things. that drop rate will drop between 0 and 3 items per kill, based on another dice roll. roughly 60% chance of 0 items, 25% chance for 1 item, 10% chance for 2 items, 5% chance for 3 items.

    when the drop rates are doubled that means the drop rate for regular mobs is 2, and you get the chance for 0 to 3 items twice for each mob.

    TT squad mode boss Cosmoforce:Substancia has a drop rate of 2 that has a 100% chance to drop 3 items, that means [if double drops affect TT] that there will be 4 drops counted that have a 100% chance of dropping 3 items, or 12 items per kill as opposed to the normal 6.

    double drop rate will not multiply the actual items dropped by 2, but your chance to get what you want, and more of it is substantially increased
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  • Kimmahri - Harshlands
    Kimmahri - Harshlands Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    ME FORGIVE PWI AFTER ANNI PACKS

    ME CHARGE 2MIL GOLD AND REFINE ALL MY GEAR +12 JUST TO SOLO TT AND GET DROPS AND LOOT

    AND STUFF... b:byeb:dirtyb:victory

    RAWR

    also to makeover. I dont like lion barb.

    or maybe I should just buy an herc
  • Santacruz - Heavens Tear
    Santacruz - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    so what time does this start in the UK?

    im guessing 10pm
  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Santacruz - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    so what time does this start in the UK?

    im guessing 10pm

    It starts at 8 my time, and UK is five hours after, so...1 AM? b:surrender
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  • Lostin - Heavens Tear
    Lostin - Heavens Tear Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Awesome! I'm farming b:victory
  • Santacruz - Heavens Tear
    Santacruz - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Aadi - Lost City wrote: »
    It starts at 8 my time, and UK is five hours after, so...1 AM? b:surrender

    hehe yea i found out ^^

    im still staying up for FF >:D
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    What does 2x drop rate mean exactly?

    The way a drop works on a normal mob is that the server rolls a die which has a chance to come up with 0, 1, 2, or 3 drops (and rolls a separate die for rare drops like oracles). Bosses can roll up to 10 dice or so.

    Does 2x drop rate mean that mobs have double the number of dice they normally do?
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  • XbladeXBm - Dreamweaver
    XbladeXBm - Dreamweaver Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

    Does 2x drop rate mean that mobs have double the number of dice they normally do?

    Afaik yes, items have 2x as much chance to drop, Rather than you get 2x of 1 item
  • Suiryujin - Sanctuary
    Suiryujin - Sanctuary Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    ok, lets say a mob drop chances are these
    x1 server drop rate (the actual # drops u get is ur server drop rate multipied with ur item drop count)
    50% 0 item drop
    30% 1 item drop x1
    15% 2 item drop x1
    5% 3 item drop x1
    then there is a list all ALL possible item drops of the mob with their total chances adding to 100%. doubling this number does NOT change the drop rate since the all chances are double not just certain good drops.
    the only way i see the 2x drop rate work for mobs is if the above rates become
    60% 1 item drop
    30% 2 item drop
    10% 3 item drop
    then there is the question of not all mob drop rate number are pretty like this and some of them when doubled might actually go over 100% which.. i dont get how that works.

    then there is the problem for tt
    boss have a set drop rate
    example
    3x server drop rate
    0% 0 item drop
    0% 1 item drop
    100% 2 item drop
    0% 3 item drop

    so 100% 2 item drop with 3 server drop rate = 6 item drops total

    tt bosses also then have a list of chance what each of the 6 item drops can be, once again the chances add to 100% and double all the chances does not change the actual ratio of drops which results in the drop rate remaining the same.
    eatwithspoons wrote: »
    nobody said anything about double, it's 2x droprate, which means stuff has a higher chance to drop.

    assuming what spoons stated earlier that the actually number of drops you get does not change, how would 2x drop rate affect tt?
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  • Destini - Dreamweaver
    Destini - Dreamweaver Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Stupid question, but the addict wants to know.

    Will anni pack drop rates be affected too? b:chuckle b:cute I mean, I still want my scroll of tome. b:surrender
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  • sofreek
    sofreek Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    never got a answer if it for quest too
  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Quest experience is not changed by this, since these numbers are static values that do not change, neither will it change anniversary packs, because nothing "drops" from them technically, they are opened, so it's a different mechanic b:laugh
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