when does cleric become better
Nelynia - Lost City
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When do clerics become better? I know someone that soloed suzerix at lvl 49, what even veno without herc can't solo. But elder tortoise at lvl 23 two shots me, on my veno i didn'd notice first that it's a boss. When do clerics became better? i never had a problem with dying after lvl 20 while grinding, onley if 2 phisical ranged mobs attack me then i'm dead.
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I solo elder tortoise at lvl 23, with full MAG build.
Maybe you are doing something wrong in your cleric.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Nosgoth - Dreamweaver wrote: »I solo elder tortoise at lvl 23, with full MAG build.
Maybe you are doing something wrong in your cleric.
This!
Leveling a cleric past lv20 is easy, you should not be dieingb:dirty0 -
Nelynia - Lost City wrote: »When do clerics become better? I know someone that soloed suzerix at lvl 49, what even veno without herc can't solo. But elder tortoise at lvl 23 two shots me, on my veno i didn'd notice first that it's a boss. When do clerics became better? i never had a problem with dying after lvl 20 while grinding, onley if 2 phisical ranged mobs attack me then i'm dead.
1. Clerics are awesome right out of the gate, with one of our few true 'weaknesses' being a complete and total reliance on MP to do anything. Anything else can be worked around. You just need to take the time to learn the ins and outs of the class.
2. Soloing Suzerix (or ANY boss for that matter) is, again, taking the time to learn what the boss is capable of. Clerics with respectable Water Resistance can take him down alone significantly earlier than that if they have the patience. The only reason that Veno you mention couldn't is that they took the wrong approach: A ranged Magic tank would have pulled them through just fine. Unless their heals STILL couldn't keep up with the damage output...in which case I don't know what to say without sounding like a pompous **** (more so than I may or may not be already >_<;;;).
3. Regarding Elder there are 2 points I'd like to make.
One is that unless we're 1-shotted, totally unable to keep up with the DPS being leveled against us (whether due to lack of heal strength, due to being caught off guard by an off-camera assailant, or because we're incapacitated by means of stuns, Seal or sleep), out of MP, or just asleep at the wheel, there are very few...if any...1 on 1 confrontations that we can't weather. If you're unsure of what kind of damage a mob is going to deal to you, stack Ironhearts before the first shot. After you've gained an idea of what kind of hits you're going to be taking, adjust accordingly.
As for taking him more easily as a Veno...that part should be obvious. Survivability is always much less of a concern when you have a tank standing between you and your assailant. Then it simply becomes a matter of keeping the tank alive and the mobs latched onto it instead of you. Same as any Cleric/tank relationship. b:thanks
4. ...Not gonna lie. Ranged Physical will NEVER stop sucking. But then again...I can't think of a class that wouldn't find them at least annoying. Especially with that 'Final Attack' BS they always seem to pull as they die...
Barbs and BMs have to chase them down (though BMs have the easier time doing so between Sprints, stuns and a few ranged attacks).
Arcanes don't have to chase, but instead take much bigger hits.
Venos have to be careful not to do too much damage while the pet chases them down.
...Dunno about Archers. But I'd assume they'd take some respectable hits themselves during those situations where they miss a stun or knockback. And with the added range, they're GOING to be taking more hits if they don't kill the mob fast enough.
...But anyways, back on track. Just like with melee, prep before the first attack and you should be fine. b:victory0 -
XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver wrote: »1. Clerics are awesome right out of the gate, with one of our few true 'weaknesses' being a complete and total reliance on MP to do anything. Anything else can be worked around. You just need to take the time to learn the ins and outs of the class.
2. Soloing Suzerix (or ANY boss for that matter) is, again, taking the time to learn what the boss is capable of. Clerics with respectable Water Resistance can take him down alone significantly earlier than that if they have the patience. The only reason that Veno you mention couldn't is that they took the wrong approach: A ranged Magic tank would have pulled them through just fine. Unless their heals STILL couldn't keep up with the damage output...in which case I don't know what to say without sounding like a pompous **** (more so than I may or may not be already >_<;;;).
3. Regarding Elder there are 2 points I'd like to make.
One is that unless we're 1-shotted, totally unable to keep up with the DPS being leveled against us (whether due to lack of heal strength, due to being caught off guard by an off-camera assailant, or because we're incapacitated by means of stuns, Seal or sleep), out of MP, or just asleep at the wheel, there are very few...if any...1 on 1 confrontations that we can't weather. If you're unsure of what kind of damage a mob is going to deal to you, stack Ironhearts before the first shot. After you've gained an idea of what kind of hits you're going to be taking, adjust accordingly.
As for taking him more easily as a Veno...that part should be obvious. Survivability is always much less of a concern when you have a tank standing between you and your assailant. Then it simply becomes a matter of keeping the tank alive and the mobs latched onto it instead of you. Same as any Cleric/tank relationship. b:thanks
4. ...Not gonna lie. Ranged Physical will NEVER stop sucking. But then again...I can't think of a class that wouldn't find them at least annoying. Especially with that 'Final Attack' BS they always seem to pull as they die...
Barbs and BMs have to chase them down (though BMs have the easier time doing so between Sprints, stuns and a few ranged attacks).
Arcanes don't have to chase, but instead take much bigger hits.
Venos have to be careful not to do too much damage while the pet chases them down.
...Dunno about Archers. But I'd assume they'd take some respectable hits themselves during those situations where they miss a stun or knockback. And with the added range, they're GOING to be taking more hits if they don't kill the mob fast enough.
...But anyways, back on track. Just like with melee, prep before the first attack and you should be fine. b:victory
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I think for this, once you start hitting past lv95 it MIGHT actually get decent. It also might depend on which course you go as demon and sage. (since sage plume shell gives higher def.)XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver wrote: »4. ...Not gonna lie. Ranged Physical will NEVER stop sucking. But then again...I can't think of a class that wouldn't find them at least annoying. Especially with that 'Final Attack' BS they always seem to pull as they die...
...........final 'exploding' mobs are another story tho... b:surrender
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That is because they are using golem which has bad mag def best to have pet with good mag def. I would suggest soloing as Cleric untill much later on.That boss has 3 little wolfs behind it.Nelynia - Lost City wrote: »what even veno without herc can't solo. But elder tortoise at lvl 23 two shots me, on my veno i didn'd notice first thatLooking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »That is because they are using golem which has bad mag def best to have pet with good mag def. I would suggest soloing as Cleric untill much later on.That boss has 3 little wolfs behind it.
Suzie, lol you can solo that the moment you get it.
(get allot of MP powders)b:dirty0 -
Elder Tortoise and Suzy are VERY easy for clerics, because they have relatively weak magic attacks. I soloed both as soon as I got it.
Blew 30 mp pots and a focus powder on suzy, but that's beside the point.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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How did you do it and what lvl were your skills.I can't even kill the barb boss on the bluffs atm.Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »Suzie, lol you can solo that the moment you get it.
(get allot of MP powders)Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »How did you do it and what lvl were your skills.I can't even kill the barb boss on the bluffs atm.
I soloed it when i got that quest too. Some ironheart between skills are enough to keep u alive...0 -
Do clerics ever stop running out of mp
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No. But event pots > troubles0
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Take my advice, forget soloing.
With Mystic I solo'd everything, Suzerix, Chin, mantavip you name it.
It's more fun when you do it with friends and saves $$ tooAll God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring.0 -
Lenyel - Harshlands wrote: »I soloed it when i got that quest too. Some ironheart between skills are enough to keep u alive...
How exactly though and what did you do with the 3 little watch dogs that follow it around?I am not even sure I can do this with my Veno and I got lvl 40 herc.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »How exactly though and what did you do with the 3 little watch dogs that follow it around?I am not even sure I can do this with my Veno and I got lvl 40 herc.
Here's how I did it:
1) Kill the adds (from behind, so nobody freaks out on you and eats your face)
2) Kill the boss (IH>Cyclone>Plume, rinse and repeat, poting your way through it)
5 min later, boss is dead![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »How exactly though and what did you do with the 3 little watch dogs that follow it around?I am not even sure I can do this with my Veno and I got lvl 40 herc.
You can safely pull the 3 adds without pulling the boss if you attack one of them first. As is the case with most adds in the outside world. Granted...they may all come at you at once, but it's better than them + boss.
...One of the exceptions, however, is Virridis Stormhorn. He has an inexplicable tendancy to aggro no matter what add you try to target first. Best to pull them from the air if possible. >_<0 -
First of all, its fun soloing, specially back in the days when very few clerics even attempted it. When i personally did it i drew a large crowd watching as they watch solo cleric AoE grind.
How? Well easy, the lill wolfs every few seconds fall behind Suzie then you attack and pull them kill them.
Yay now you can kill Suzie, stack IH on your self and there you go, use cyclone and plume shot.
My advise is to have 20-30MP powders and 20ish MP pots (or more =P)b:dirty0 -
DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote: »Here's how I did it:
1) Kill the adds (from behind, so nobody freaks out on you and eats your face)
2) Kill the boss (IH>Cyclone>Plume, rinse and repeat, poting your way through it)
5 min later, boss is dead!
5min? more like 15-20minb:dirty0 -
Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »5min? more like 15-20min
Meh, you're just slow b:chuckle
...ok, more like 10.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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You seem very confident in yourself a BM would do it faster than an Archer and Veno faster than a Cleric.DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote: »Meh, you're just slow b:chuckle
...ok, more like 10.0 -
Mystiwarrior - Sanctuary wrote: »You seem very confident in yourself a BM would do it faster than an Archer and Veno faster than a Cleric.
barbs are the faster tho b:laugh0 -
It never gets better. Quit now. Reroll a Wizard and go heavy, you will DOMINATE!
Well that's my two cents, bye guys (DUN KILL MEH)b:byeb:shocked0
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