TT90 Gold vs Acrobatic...

myforumaccountwoot
myforumaccountwoot Posts: 30 Arc User
edited November 2009 in Wizard
Hello again fellow Wizzies!

I know that TT90 Gold was going to be expensive; but I wasn't prepared for the 50m (estimate) price tag I came up with when I was done totalling it all up.

I'll keep it short and simple. Is TT90Gold Worth it? I have no plans on replacing it ever; and I figure if I'm going to deck out a set of gear; it might as well be the TT90Gold instead of the Acrobatic set


Thank you in advanced!
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  • Disappear - Lost City
    Disappear - Lost City Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    myforumaccountwoot wrote: »
    Hello again fellow Wizzies!

    I know that TT90 Gold was going to be expensive; but I wasn't prepared for the 50m (estimate) price tag I came up with when I was done totalling it all up.

    I'll keep it short and simple. Is TT90Gold Worth it? I have no plans on replacing it ever; and I figure if I'm going to deck out a set of gear; it might as well be the TT90Gold instead of the Acrobatic set


    Thank you in advanced!

    why can't you ask LLama or something, Erik?
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Gold wrists are the only piece worth it. Get green top and pants and OHT boots, and you're good to go. Feel free to deck it out (+6 3 socket immaculate shards) if that's your 'end game' gear. The wrists and pants could last you well through 99+ if they're refined well enough.
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  • Disappear - Lost City
    Disappear - Lost City Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Amour - Lost City wrote: »
    Gold wrists are the only piece worth it. Get green top and pants and OHT boots, and you're good to go. Feel free to deck it out (+6 3 socket immaculate shards) if that's your 'end game' gear. The wrists and pants could last you well through 99+ if they're refined well enough.

    isn't 99 gear overall better?
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    no, the 99 gear apart from sleeves blows.
    And even then the 90 sleeves could be viewed as almost equal
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  • Arkright - Dreamweaver
    Arkright - Dreamweaver Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    If you get 2 Archangel pieces, you get -6 channeling. That makes a big difference if the effect is stacked. It's a matter of preference though. Don't let my opinion sway you. b:shutup
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    -3% channeling.
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  • TehMage - Lost City
    TehMage - Lost City Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Only difference between 90 and 99 gold is the hp you get from refines I believe. I don't plan on going all out on a green set, i'd only go to +5 at best.
  • Arkright - Dreamweaver
    Arkright - Dreamweaver Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Amour - Lost City wrote: »
    -3% channeling.

    My bad. It's still a bonus. You get -6% from the sleeves, that's half of two pieces. b:victory
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    the difference between grades in robes is pathetic.
    Grade 11 to grade 13 the difference is only 40 hp at +8. For robes you definitely should focus more on the blue stats and the amount of available sockets, especially with current gold prices.
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Amour - Lost City wrote: »
    the difference between grades in robes is pathetic.
    Grade 11 to grade 13 the difference is only 40 hp at +8. For robes you definitely should focus more on the blue stats and the amount of available sockets, especially with current gold prices.

    so true, the 90 green chest/legs are much better and WAY cheaper than the 90 gold.. you'd have to be crazy to go gold. You should really be looking into other non-TT gears (such as OHT, as you can get some pretty amazing armors out of that for a fraction of the price). Just my 2 cents :P
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  • myforumaccountwoot
    myforumaccountwoot Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Arkright - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If you get 2 Archangel pieces, you get -6 channeling. That makes a big difference if the effect is stacked. It's a matter of preference though. Don't let my opinion sway you. b:shutup

    Wait what level is the Arch set?

    And what hat should I get?

    Thanks in advanced!
  • Kannone - Heavens Tear
    Kannone - Heavens Tear Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    myforumaccountwoot wrote: »
    Wait what level is the Arch set?

    And what hat should I get?

    Thanks in advanced!

    Archangel is gold 99 (I'm 99% sure of this)

    About hats; craft an OHT hat- lv90 to equip & the only significant material it needs is Stamina Material x2 (~100k each in AH always). Probability of getting great adds & 3-4 sockets is very, very nice.
  • Hizaki - Dreamweaver
    Hizaki - Dreamweaver Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    OHT hat is lvl 90 to equip?
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  • Destini - Dreamweaver
    Destini - Dreamweaver Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Yeap.

    And I agree with the TT90 gold being...bad. Other than the sleeves.

    I also agree with OHT stuff do come out very nicely. It doesn't get a lot of attention on DW though. I have a pair of OHT sleeves that is 3*, 3 sockets, with +13 vit added to it (all resistances by the way). I already have the oracle sleeves, but I switch between the two sleeves, depending on the situation. In the case of a delta, I'll get more hp using the OHT sleeves, so I use that (at the expense of about 142 phys defense b:surrender). Then, in the event of delta bosses (and generally killing stuff faster), the oracle sleeves go on, and so does the other pieces of -6% channeling I have.

    Demon spark+ -24% channeling=b:dirty

    I have yet to make an OHT hat/cape that's better than the one I have now. WTB>DW card boss runs b:surrender
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    OHT capes aren't worth making; too much time/money invested into something you'd replace with a cape of elite leather or event cape.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    So. Are you staying with TT90 as end-game gear?
    And there is quite big difference in refining between robe. grade 11 and grade 13.
    Check this links.
    Grade 11
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=e9e333f8e53cad7b
    Grade 13
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=007922e3b823c5eb
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    So. Are you staying with TT90 as end-game gear?
    And there is quite big difference in refining between robe. grade 11 and grade 13.
    Check this links.
    Grade 11
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=e9e333f8e53cad7b
    Grade 13
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=007922e3b823c5eb

    what's that build supposed to prove? The second one is of a BM, if you make it a wizard, the g11 results in 5 more overall hp. (because of the mods)
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  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    75 HP is not a lot when competing with two grades above, at +8 as well. Check heavy 11 and 13 and you'll see why they do it. But for robes, it's more about the sockets and stats of the items.
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Adroit - Lost City wrote: »
    what's that build supposed to prove? The second one is of a BM, if you make it a wizard, the g11 results in 5 more overall hp. (because of the mods)

    I'm so sorry but I'm not sure if I understand.
    Second gear is lunar robe. I just compared refining TT90 green robe and refining Lunar gold robe. b:cute
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Amour - Lost City wrote: »
    75 HP is not a lot when competing with two grades above, at +8 as well. Check heavy 11 and 13 and you'll see why they do it. But for robes, it's more about the sockets and stats of the items.
    Sure is not a big difference. But if you refine all gear(pants,boots,chest etc) you can get quite good amount of HP. In compare with refining grade 11 robe gear.b:pleased
    BTW is actually +65HP not 75.
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I'm so sorry but I'm not sure if I understand.
    Second gear is lunar robe. I just compared refining TT90 green robe and refining Lunar gold robe. b:cute

    how do I explain this... uhmm
    Your first one, you have the class as a wizard... it shows 2485 hp
    Your second one, you have the class as a BM.. it shows 3525 hp
    Now if you fix the second one to a wizard... it shows 2480 hp

    You get more hp by finding a good stat lower grade armor than using a bad stat higher grade armor.
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Adroit - Lost City wrote: »
    how do I explain this... uhmm
    Your first one, you have the class as a wizard... it shows 2485 hp
    Your second one, you have the class as a BM.. it shows 3525 hp
    Now if you fix the second one to a wizard... it shows 2480 hp

    You get more hp by finding a good stat lower grade armor than using a bad stat higher grade armor.

    Ups. Sorry. You right. But it doesn't change the main idea. Refining higher lv. armor gives you more HP than refining lower lv. armor. The question is, is it worth it?
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  • Slobby - Sanctuary
    Slobby - Sanctuary Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    What is OHT?
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Slobby - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What is OHT?

    Do you have already chrono key? After completing wraith ploy quest, you will get chrono key. This key takes you in to the past. The old heaven tears place. There are furnaces, where you can make OHT armor and weapons. The ingredients you can obtain from many another instances. As RB, some FB etc. I also don't know everything about OHT. But my opinion is that is not worth it. Because add-on are totally random.
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  • Slobby - Sanctuary
    Slobby - Sanctuary Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    No I don't have the chrono key yet. I haven't done a single quest since I hit 75. Not even my spirit cultivation or fbs... I'll get to all of that when I lvl out of gamma. Thanks for the information. Going back in the past... sounds cool
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Ups. Sorry. You right. But it doesn't change the main idea. Refining higher lv. armor gives you more HP than refining lower lv. armor. The question is, is it worth it?
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Do you have already chrono key? After completing wraith ploy quest, you will get chrono key. This key takes you in to the past. The old heaven tears place. There are furnaces, where you can make OHT armor and weapons. The ingredients you can obtain from many another instances. As RB, some FB etc. I also don't know everything about OHT. But my opinion is that is not worth it. Because add-on are totally random.

    If you can find equal stats on different grade equips, you'd obviously want the higher grade.. but if you were to compare HH 90 green with the HH 90 gold pants.. you'd be way better off with the 90 green.

    Imo.. the OHT boots/wrists are definitely worth it. They both take 7 or 8 lumistone and golden sculptures and 3 or 5 tears of heaven (3 for wrists, 5 for boots) to make. The golden sculptures and lumistone are basically free.. you get enough for 3 armor pieces a day from cube or 3-1 you can get enough for like 10 in one run. You should never really run out of those. At level 90, you get a quest for tears of heaven (4 per day) really easy quest that takes like 5 mins. You can keep making a pair of sleeves every day till you get a good one. If you get a bad one (most the time) you can decompose it into CHI stones (70 perfect stones for wrists, 74 for boots). Even if you don't get anything good, you can use it to fill up ur aerogear or genie... with the chance of getting a really good boot/wrist. My wrists that I use now are OHT... all 5 res 2 sockets and pdef +94 x3. I'd say they're pretty decent, and being essentially free. Totally worth it imo.
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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited November 2009
    @mumi: shut up. the only time you notice the huge difference in refine rate is +11 and +12. god you're stupid.

    hh90 gold vs. green is always green. 90 gold sleeves can be replaced with the 77 molder.
  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    what is the OHT boot and hat? how can i get it? is it TT or mold?
    can someone list me out what's the best for lvl90 set?
    i'm now 84 so., i want to stock the mat or whatever i need for my 90 set.
    i gonna use TT90acrobatic chest and pant
    but for wrist and boot and hat i need some advice
    please help so that i won't make double post :P
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  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »
    what is the OHT boot and hat? how can i get it? is it TT or mold?
    can someone list me out what's the best for lvl90 set?
    i'm now 84 so., i want to stock the mat or whatever i need for my 90 set.
    i gonna use TT90acrobatic chest and pant
    but for wrist and boot and hat i need some advice
    please help so that i won't make double post :P

    O.O are u serious i seen u playing for a while?

    Well when u get to Old Heavens Tear after getting the chrono key from doing the specific sequence of gold quests linus, TT/HH 1-3 and 2-1 highest setting, fb69 last two bosses, etc then you will notice these forges in Old Heavens Tear. At the armor forge u can make wristguards and boots using heavens tear (at 90 you get a daily quest to get 4 everyday), luminostone, and golden scupture. All materials can be farmed or you can get them from mobs so you do not have to buy them unless ur desperate or can find a way to profit off it.

    edit- Cant remember the mats for OHT hat off the top of my head but its there in that forge so you can just look for urself when u get there. Going to sleep, enjoy!!!
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Adroit - Lost City wrote: »
    If you can find equal stats on different grade equips, you'd obviously want the higher grade.. but if you were to compare HH 90 green with the HH 90 gold pants.. you'd be way better off with the 90 green.

    Imo.. the OHT boots/wrists are definitely worth it. They both take 7 or 8 lumistone and golden sculptures and 3 or 5 tears of heaven (3 for wrists, 5 for boots) to make. The golden sculptures and lumistone are basically free.. you get enough for 3 armor pieces a day from cube or 3-1 you can get enough for like 10 in one run. You should never really run out of those. At level 90, you get a quest for tears of heaven (4 per day) really easy quest that takes like 5 mins. You can keep making a pair of sleeves every day till you get a good one. If you get a bad one (most the time) you can decompose it into CHI stones (70 perfect stones for wrists, 74 for boots). Even if you don't get anything good, you can use it to fill up ur aerogear or genie... with the chance of getting a really good boot/wrist. My wrists that I use now are OHT... all 5 res 2 sockets and pdef +94 x3. I'd say they're pretty decent, and being essentially free. Totally worth it imo.

    Sounds very interesting. I didn't know that. Thanks for inf.b:victory
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