Force Of Will

Andross - Dreamweaver
Andross - Dreamweaver Posts: 76 Arc User
edited October 2009 in Wizard
Why the hell make the cast time 2 seconds, and FoW's effect last for 5 seconds (maxed) when the cast time is part of the effect time? Now don't get me wrong, I love this skill. In PvE. It buys me enough time to take out mobs before ever getting hit. But is this skill useful at all in PvP considering during almost half of it's effect time, you can't do anything as well?
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  • Sage_Sora - Dreamweaver
    Sage_Sora - Dreamweaver Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Well, I can't comment on the skill personally, but it makes sense that the effect shouldn't happen before the cause.
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  • Fluffi - Harshlands
    Fluffi - Harshlands Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    FoW is far from being useless

    You use it quite often as an interrupt (it's indeed on of our only 2 interrupt spells) f.ex. when you see other players spark/other wizards cast ultis in tw etc.

    And never underestimate 3 seconds of peace for a wizard b:laugh
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Andross - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Why the hell make the cast time 2 seconds, and FoW's effect last for 5 seconds (maxed) when the cast time is part of the effect time? Now don't get me wrong, I love this skill. In PvE. It buys me enough time to take out mobs before ever getting hit. But is this skill useful at all in PvP considering during almost half of it's effect time, you can't do anything as well?

    you can fire off a gush then blink so you can kite an opponent while not taking damage >.>
    Fluffi - Harshlands wrote: »
    FoW is far from being useless

    You use it quite often as an interrupt (it's indeed on of our only 2 interrupt spells) f.ex. when you see other players spark/other wizards cast ultis in tw etc.

    And never underestimate 3 seconds of peace for a wizard b:laugh

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  • Kannone - Heavens Tear
    Kannone - Heavens Tear Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Archer, Mage, and Cleric zens in TW can really **** things up. That's why we have FoW; because we can blink into range, disrupt zens, and then holy path away.
  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    It might be better just to think of FoW as a purely defensive spell to buy time. First of all, it gives you 10 (or 15?) chi when you use it, and gives you time to cast sage pyrogram, that combo alone can potentially give up to 55 chi. Also it buys you 5 seconds of time to let your charm ticks recharge. The seal effect also happens in only .5 seconds, meaning you can choose when to seal, since it's faster than most skills.

    Don't use it offensively, since it basically just gives them a free 2 second warning that there's a wizzie ready to sutra/nuke their ****.
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  • Andross - Dreamweaver
    Andross - Dreamweaver Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I guess I was thinking about it wrong. Guess you guys are right. Didn't think about the fact that I use FoW in PvE to avoid damage more than to buy myself time to deal it, so I guess it's the same for PvP. So it IS defensive... I'm used to playing as a cleric is what is is... guess I have to wait for sporific whisper before I can think like that again.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Andross - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I guess I was thinking about it wrong. Guess you guys are right. Didn't think about the fact that I use FoW in PvE to avoid damage more than to buy myself time to deal it, so I guess it's the same for PvP. So it IS defensive... I'm used to playing as a cleric is what is is... guess I have to wait for sporific whisper before I can think like that again.

    i want to one shot you out of anger...you are so lucky i dont PK people 5 levels below me....

    but that doesnt apply to duels b:sin

    but duels just doesnt feel the same b:cry
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Hizaki - Dreamweaver
    Hizaki - Dreamweaver Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    cus you dont gotta time charm ticks ;p
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    lol Me WUV THIS MOVE!
    seriously use it for the interrupt while they're trying to channel something of their own.
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  • BrownflameZ - Lost City
    BrownflameZ - Lost City Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Andross - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Why the hell make the cast time 2 seconds, and FoW's effect last for 5 seconds (maxed) when the cast time is part of the effect time? Now don't get me wrong, I love this skill. In PvE. It buys me enough time to take out mobs before ever getting hit. But is this skill useful at all in PvP considering during almost half of it's effect time, you can't do anything as well?

    Lol. This skill + sleep, and maybe Occult Ice will save your noob **** countless times in PvP. Not to mention let you complete ridiculous combos. Once you get 3 sparks, you can plan PvP tactics around this skill; for example seal + sutra + dpyro + mountain + pyro + snare + pheonix = target should be down or stunned/sealed through out most of the combo. You can also use the instant-Bt combo.. sutra + seal + BT to take out a retarted ep trying to heal instantly.

    Even in tw the skill is rapeage when a mage party is chaining back-to-back seals untill target is down.

    You'll learn to love it.
  • Shevanel - Sanctuary
    Shevanel - Sanctuary Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Probably the best use of this skill is stopping yourself from getting stun locked by BMs.
    See a BM running at you, gush once maybe then Seal before they can stun. Shrink and Glacial if you have time, or hail to stun them.
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  • Andross - Dreamweaver
    Andross - Dreamweaver Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i want to one shot you out of anger...you are so lucky i dont PK people 5 levels below me....

    but that doesnt apply to duels b:sin

    but duels just doesnt feel the same b:cry

    ...what'd I do?
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Andross - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    ...what'd I do?

    Lol, don't mind him. He's kinda... b:bye
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Andross - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    ...what'd I do?
    You are playing a wizard like a cleric........
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    He's really OP

    fixed b:cute
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    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Andross - Dreamweaver
    Andross - Dreamweaver Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You are playing a wizard like a cleric........

    OH. No. I actually played my cleric for a bit after doing nothing but playing my wizard from 1 to about 60. It actually made me play my cleric better, in terms of killing things. All I meant was that I still have a bit of the cleric mentality. It's gradually being replaced by a wizard mentality.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Andross - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    OH. No. I actually played my cleric for a bit after doing nothing but playing my wizard from 1 to about 60. It actually made me play my cleric better, in terms of killing things. All I meant was that I still have a bit of the cleric mentality. It's gradually being replaced by a wizard mentality.

    b:shocked
    worked the other way around for me.
    xD
    lols me kite with my cleric. (>.<)'
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