Perfect Hammer for Chest of Coins???

Sturym - Heavens Tear
Sturym - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
edited October 2009 in Suggestion Box
Just something that's been on my mind. Since doing the FF a bit lately, I've gotten quite a few Chest of Coins. You can use a perfect hammer to open these chest of coins to get 1,000,000 coins. Sounds awesome to get a million coins, right? Well, with the recent spike in gold prices (as well as before the spike/after the anni packs came out) it would now cost you 5 Gold or 2.5 million coins in order to get a hammer and open a chest for 1 million coins.

This is quite a bit pointless in my eyes. Even if the gold did drop back down, we will likely never see it at 100k per Gold again, and 300k seems to be the leveling off point. 300k @ 5 Gold, still makes 1.5 million coin to open. And best yet, they put the Perfect Hammer on sale for 4 Gold... during the Anni Pack sale. So I'd still have to pay $4 or 2 million coin in game to open this chest of 1 million coin? Sorry, I'm not seeing the logic here. I'll buy the $4 in gold and sell it for 2 million instead. These chests have basically become useless.

Anything you can do about dropping the price of the hammer? Just my suggestion...
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  • ColdSteele - Lost City
    ColdSteele - Lost City Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    +1 for this. I've thought about it for a LONG time. Even before anni pack hammers were close to being more expensive than 1m.
    It's too bad but "free to play, pay to win"-sckye

    These "updates" are seeming more and more like downgrades.

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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Agreed...I have over 90 of these Chests.

    Just keep trying to sell them b:surrender

    But the way things have been, they are worthless.
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  • Sturym - Heavens Tear
    Sturym - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I'm glad to see I'm not alone in this feeling. For now, I'll keep hoping and praying that something gets done about it.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    Agreed...I have over 90 of these Chests.

    Just keep trying to sell them b:surrender

    But the way things have been, they are worthless.

    After you kill someone in PvP, you can drop one on his/her corpse =)
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    After you kill someone in PvP, you can drop one on his/her corpse =)

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  • SolomonSmash - Heavens Tear
    SolomonSmash - Heavens Tear Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    LMAO, Hammers on "sale" for 4 Gold. You got to hand it to them, that is an elegantly cold-blooded way to say "F*** You" to someone.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Sturym - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I'm glad to see I'm not alone in this feeling. For now, I'll keep hoping and praying that something gets done about it.

    The problem is....As the argument goes for many....

    Allowing many of us to open these Chests would 100% defeat the purpose of any type of coin sink. I alone would get over 90mill if I was to open all of mine.

    Although, I still think there should be an option to NPC these for like 200-300k.
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  • Meristem - Sanctuary
    Meristem - Sanctuary Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Chest of Coins are the new FB bloods... except that fb 19/29 got an use...
    I will start trowing the chests away...
  • Hecklar - Sanctuary
    Hecklar - Sanctuary Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Well.. I have a bit of a suggestion for these chests. Instead of them being worth 1mil and needing a hammer to open them.. Make them for 100k, and require no hammer at all.. At least then we'd be able to get something for them.. o.o Or, Lower the hammer Cost to 1 gold, and lower the prize in them to 500k, that'd be okay too, that way Eventually you'd be able to make coins from them.. Although... this would seriously Ruin the chances of gold ever getting below 400k or something.. because people could get away with selling the Gold that expensive... Hmmmmms O.o what to do
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  • Meristem - Sanctuary
    Meristem - Sanctuary Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    ya... i was just thinking like Hecklar about the 100k prize...
    making an item that gives acess to money directly like chest of coins shouldnt be dependent of boutique... or else it will always create a "floor" for gold price, never lowering it
  • Sturym - Heavens Tear
    Sturym - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I do agree. Lowering it would be nice. It's just bs that we have to pay either real money, or twice the value to open them. The GMs weren't thinking hard when they made that rule, I suppose.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Sturym - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I do agree. Lowering it would be nice. It's just bs that we have to pay either real money, or twice the value to open them. The GMs weren't thinking hard when they made that rule, I suppose.

    Oh they were, and if you have not figured it out yet, you will some day.
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  • Qwentomec - Heavens Tear
    Qwentomec - Heavens Tear Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Yeh lowering boutique price won't do anything to fix it...gold price will just change accordingly. Maybe like someone else suggested and letting us NPC it for a decent price....maybe 250k?
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  • senjak
    senjak Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Well, here is my suggestion, keep the prize in the chest at 1M OR drop it and allow them to be NPC'd for 2-300K as was suggested by an earlier post(s). If the prize in the chest is kept at 1 mil, instead of the perfect hammer being a 1 use item at 5 gold a pop, keep it at 5 gold but give it say 5 uses once it's used 5 times then it's time to buy a new hammer, or have the chests become like Dragon orders where you can trade them in for a reward similar to DQ rewards.
    For example 100 chests might net you a warsoul fragment or 1 chest might net you a guardian scroll or 50 chests could net you a plat charm. Just my two cents worth

    -b:shockedb:laughb:pleased
  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    methinks dropping the price of the hammer will have somewhat of an inverse result than what the OP may think. If the price of the hammer were to drop to, lets say 2 gold, and they can be used to open a chest of coins that contains 1 million coins - the price of gold can never drop very far below 500k apiece due to the fact that someone will be able to buy the gold for less than 1 mil, buy the hammer, turn a profit. Right, I know thats what you want to do here, but face facts - people who sell gold generally know what can be done with their own supply of gold. If they are smart and know they could turn a better profit by buying a few chest of coins (I've seen em at 90k before), theres no way they should sell their gold for less than:

    1,000,000 (potential gross income from chest) - 90,000 (expenses from buying chest) = 910,000 (potential net income from chest)

    afaik they get 2% game coin subtracted from each transaction, therefore:
    let x = gross gold sales before "taxes"
    910,000 = .98 * x
    x = 910,000 / .98
    x = 928,571.42857142857142857142857143

    following the suggestion someone made earlier that if the hammers cost 1 gold only (but if the chest's contents remained the same) gold could potentially cost as much as the bottom line (above). In the scenario I presented where if the hammers cost only 2 gold then:

    x / 2 = 464,285.71428571428571428571428571

    I think if we're looking to see a decrease in the cost of gold, the (gold) prices of certain things will actually have to be raised - not lowered.
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  • Hermeleentje - Harshlands
    Hermeleentje - Harshlands Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I would say that the gold price need to be lowered, like a limid on them how much it might cost (100K max or something like that).
    Also, maybe they can make it able to refinide the hammers with a mold and some mats.
    NPC'ing would be fun too. b:victory
    I really need that hammer now, since you need it for your lv50 chest b:faint

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