Um.. Can you explain better?

reikasuya123
reikasuya123 Posts: 25 Arc User
edited September 2009 in General Discussion
Why is it a bannable offense to have a fat character? You shut down my thread without even explaining anything to me. Just one sentence.

Anyways, I can't do anything to the character now, it's past the modify time.. :( What would I be able to do? I like playing as him.

A bigger question would be, why do the models even go that high if you can access them normally? If this isn't allow to be talked of here, I'll stop. Sorry if it is an inconvenience in anyway.
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  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    inb4lock, GMs and Mods don't appreciate posting about locked threads

    But yeah, I think it's similar to the no typing in different colours rule, you just don't.

    EDIT: Also, I think it would be kinda creepy having a whole bunch of freaky mutants walking around arch.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    9x Demon Cleric
  • reikasuya123
    reikasuya123 Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    inb4lock, GMs and Mods don't appreciate posting about locked threads

    But yeah, I think it's similar to the no typing in different colours rule, you just don't.

    I'm just going to leave this forum. I can't ask any questions that I really need an answer to in the game's own forum.. One sentence without explanation isn't going to cut it.
  • rsin
    rsin Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Nothing wrong with being fat. But everything wrong with editing files which is not allowed.
  • reikasuya123
    reikasuya123 Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    rsin wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with being fat. But everything wrong with editing files which is not allowed.

    Then why do they allow the models to go that high in the first place?
  • AinaMizuako - Sanctuary
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary Posts: 1,041 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    To be honest I myself don't really have an idea why the edits are not allowed.

    I guess you could make your character really skinny, like a stick to be 'invisible' but the field that you click would not shrink..

    Meh.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    oh look, i'm inactive again.

    b> leviciti b:cry
  • aryannamage
    aryannamage Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    As was said before editing the ini.files or for that matter using a third person program with PWI is a banable offence.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • DemonFox - Dreamweaver
    DemonFox - Dreamweaver Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Basically its because if they let people edit their files to make a character fat. Then it would be ok in peoples minds to make their character extremely small which is almost impossible to click on and therefore an unfair advantage. Either way its pretty much hacking and i dont believe any game puts up with that.
  • reikasuya123
    reikasuya123 Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary wrote: »
    To be honest I myself don't really have an idea why the edits are not allowed.

    I guess you could make your character really skinny, like a stick to be 'invisible' but the field that you click would not shrink..

    Meh.

    I mean, the only problems I ran into was just a few weapons going through my gut and i don't even care about that since i see my back most of the time.
  • AinaMizuako - Sanctuary
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary Posts: 1,041 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    aryannamage wrote: »
    As was said before editing the ini.files or for that matter using a third person program with PWI is a banable offence.

    Editing the .ini files requires a third person program? o_O
    Basically its because if they let people edit their files to make a character fat. Then it would be ok in peoples minds to make their character extremely small which is almost impossible to click on and therefore an unfair advantage. Either way its pretty much hacking and i dont believe any game puts up with that.

    The field in which you can click on someone does not change size.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    oh look, i'm inactive again.

    b> leviciti b:cry
  • rsin
    rsin Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I'd say edits are not allowed because, not only could someone modify their character appearance..but also modify its performance to gain unfair advantages over other players. We dont need people super jumping up to heavens tear. Do we?
  • calavera
    calavera Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    It's against ToS, it gives you an unfair advantage over other players (by accesing choices others don't have) and modifying files could be used for more sinister purposes.
  • __Kikyo__ - Lost City
    __Kikyo__ - Lost City Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    i want fat peopleb:bye
  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Editing the .ini files requires a third person program? o_O

    Yeah, notepad
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    9x Demon Cleric
  • reikasuya123
    reikasuya123 Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    rsin wrote: »
    I'd say edits are not allowed because, not only could someone modify their character appearance..but also modify its performance to gain unfair advantages over other players. We dont need people super jumping up to heavens tear. Do we?

    You're changing appearance. You can't change jumping height from a character creation preset.
  • AinaMizuako - Sanctuary
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary Posts: 1,041 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    __Kikyo__ - Lost City wrote: »
    i want fat peopleb:bye

    I want short people, but not even ini file edits can do that.

    Deathbanana: Suppose I should get banned for saving screenshots and editing them in paint/photoshop or whatever then? :P Or listening to the music with a media player without playing the game.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    oh look, i'm inactive again.

    b> leviciti b:cry
  • reikasuya123
    reikasuya123 Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I want short people, but not even ini file edits can do that.

    They can make you incredibly skinny which I find downright silly.
  • vbarbie
    vbarbie Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Yeah Me too I wonder why editing .ini files manually comes as banable , when you create your char tru the UI that's nothing different than editing the .ini's so I can't really think of any valid reazon .. Most games even offer .ini tips and tricks to make tweaks for better game performance.
  • rsin
    rsin Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    reikasuya123 wrote: »
    You're changing appearance. You can't change jumping height from a character creation preset.

    No, but you could change other things in the files you are editing. Not just character appearance.
  • AinaMizuako - Sanctuary
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary Posts: 1,041 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    reikasuya123 wrote: »
    They can make you incredibly skinny which I find downright silly.

    I've seen an incredible skinny BM in Etherblade, then she logged and came back with various other edits..

    Was quite ridiculous, especially the breast size one. That was just ludicrous.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    oh look, i'm inactive again.

    b> leviciti b:cry
  • reikasuya123
    reikasuya123 Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I've seen an incredible skinny BM in Etherblade, then she logged and came back with various other edits..

    Was quite ridiculous, especially the breast size one. That was just ludicrous.

    The skinny ones I do find silly, I mean the railing ones. I can understand a bit more muscle or a bit more fat and large **** for those people that enjoy that since that's all you really can do. If the model can go that far, why not just let us use it in the first place, aside from the over skinny of course, that's just creepy.

    Better yet, is there a section where I can suggest a wider slider selection be implemented? So people can't get banned over something as silly as having a fat character.
  • Miseri - Dreamweaver
    Miseri - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    IF anyone hasnt said this < its would be a cool idea to send a suggestion to them like they are always telling us to, I think getting a big hulking BM would be kinda neat, so Im all for it.. Just send them it in a way they will accept ^^.. new expansion coming out , maybe they will do it with that for ya if they can...
  • vbarbie
    vbarbie Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    no actually BM's are not good to watch .. Bm is like the pointlest class of the game even to look at .. b:victory
  • reikasuya123
    reikasuya123 Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Miseri - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    IF anyone hasnt said this < its would be a cool idea to send a suggestion to them like they are always telling us to, I think getting a big hulking BM would be kinda neat, so Im all for it.. Just send them it in a way they will accept ^^.. new expansion coming out , maybe they will do it with that for ya if they can...

    I just thought about it though. After I send that suggestion. There are three things that could happen.

    They accept it and allow me to make a fatter/more muscular character.

    They deny it and I worry about getting banned for a fat character.

    I could just continue playing without suggestion since no one cares about my pudge tiger. They laugh, they enjoy seeing something like that or they wonder why I''m like that. This forum so far was the only place I've seen people tell me it was bad.

    --
    Also, they locked my topic for even mentioning something like that earlier like with three responses so suggesting it in a suggestion topic might not bode well for me. ^^;
  • calavera
    calavera Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Miseri - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    IF anyone hasnt said this < its would be a cool idea to send a suggestion to them like they are always telling us to, I think getting a big hulking BM would be kinda neat, so Im all for it.. Just send them it in a way they will accept ^^.. new expansion coming out , maybe they will do it with that for ya if they can...

    Yes, try the suggestion box for that... in the meantime it's violating the game rules so it's CHEATING... I actually agree with PW's policy of not allowing people to directly modify files, it's there for a reason. And as for they not allowing fat people ingame, good. I can't light a cigarrette in a restaurant anymore but everyone's ok with someone having a meal that could feed 5-6 starving kids... Yea, fat people really have it rough...
  • vbarbie
    vbarbie Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    calavera wrote: »
    Yes, try the suggestion box for that... in the meantime it's violating the game rules so it's CHEATING... I actually agree with PW's policy of not allowing people to directly modify files, it's there for a reason. And as for they not allowing fat people ingame, good. I can't light a cigarrette in a restaurant anymore but everyone's ok with someone having a meal that could feed 5-6 starving kids... Yea, fat people really have it rough...


    LOL Yeah !! .. that's the only reazon i can think of.. if your too fat you get banned LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • reikasuya123
    reikasuya123 Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    calavera wrote: »
    Yes, try the suggestion box for that... in the meantime it's violating the game rules so it's CHEATING... I actually agree with PW's policy of not allowing people to directly modify files, it's there for a reason. And as for they not allowing fat people ingame, good. I can't light a cigarrette in a restaurant anymore but everyone's ok with someone having a meal that could feed 5-6 starving kids... Yea, fat people really have it rough...

    Um, my whole point is just for a wider selection of character options (no pun intended >.>). Besides, how is that considered cheating? I'm a muscly fat guy, my stats didn't change, my height didn't change, nothing but appearance. That's not considered cheating. That's called creating a character you'd like to play as.
    vbarbie wrote: »
    LOL Yeah !! .. that's the only reazon i can think of.. if your too fat you get banned LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm not doing this for discrimination of any sort since my character has a bit of muscle as well. I just want a bigger character is all and the model is able to be made that far, so why not implement it normally? I don't care about clipping issues as I stated before as well.
  • Reide - Sanctuary
    Reide - Sanctuary Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Odd, I'm the same person as above, just now different character and my post count went down.

    Anyways, I submitted it to the suggestions.
  • Falls - Sanctuary
    Falls - Sanctuary Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I can see why PWE wouldn't want you messing with the .ini file. And since its part of the ToS, you should have known well enough not to.

    That being said, I regret that I could not play an obese Blademaster, or an anorexic Barbarian. Actually, I remember an Anarexic Cleric...
  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    reikasuya123 wrote: »
    Um, my whole point is just for a wider selection of character options (no pun intended >.>). Besides, how is that considered cheating? I'm a muscly fat guy, my stats didn't change, my height didn't change, nothing but appearance. That's not considered cheating. That's called creating a character you'd like to play as.

    You're editing their files, which isn't allowed. Simple as that.
    I'm not doing this for discrimination of any sort since my character has a bit of muscle as well. I just want a bigger character is all and the model is able to be made that far, so why not implement it normally? I don't care about clipping issues as I stated before as well.

    Because it creates buggy models, which in turn would create a lot of whining from people who want it to be fixed and that's a huge job.
    If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.

    Everyone wants to be different, but when you're different you wish you were normal.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Because it creates buggy models, which in turn would create a lot of whining from people who want it to be fixed and that's a huge job.

    No. They'd just never fix it. Ever played a veno? Zoom out on one and watch their skin turn pale, regardless of what the actual skin color is. Better yet, pick the bushy tailed one and try to change your skin color.... or try o avoid wanting to facepalm when you're doing something and he camera just winds up going up your skirt... to show you have nothing there.

    Oh ad those bugs have been around from the beginning and at least one of them can be temporarily "patched" via editing the .ini files... that we're not allowed to edit...
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