Oracles..
huut
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Hi,
i am wondering how such a lot of ppl hold HUGE amounts of orcales...i mean...i am level 67 now and i've got NO oracle through drops yet...there are lots of shops with 200 and more oracles II etc...how is that possible? bug? duplicates? tell me..
i am wondering how such a lot of ppl hold HUGE amounts of orcales...i mean...i am level 67 now and i've got NO oracle through drops yet...there are lots of shops with 200 and more oracles II etc...how is that possible? bug? duplicates? tell me..
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cashshop
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"Hell hath no fury like Alexeno trying to prove his point" -Mizuoni0 -
You can get with the Tokens from the event.
And past events have given them (Jolly Jones)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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and a lot of shops selling them are currently/were previously buying them for cheaper than they are selling them for.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »cashshop
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/thread my butt
he was asking how the people with the cat shops got them...since they don't exactly drop like candy from monsters
As far as I know, the majority of people get them from trading the the luck tokens from the anniversary packs....which some rich people bought as many as 200$ worth0 -
Marshmallows - Dreamweaver wrote: »/thread my butt
he was asking how the people with the cat shops got them...since they don't exactly drop like candy from monsters
As far as I know, the majority of people get them from trading the the luck tokens from the anniversary packs....which some rich people bought as many as 200$ worth
like i said, cashshop[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »like i said, cashshop
You can get without using cs.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Ok the way you say it, these oracles MAGICALLY appeard into the game from catshops. You are not good at explaining things and answering questions properly. He asked how they are gotten BESIDES monsters. they don't magically get generated from CATSHOPS0
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/flame moar.
Over stupid subject. You're making my fun.0 -
Marshmallows - Dreamweaver wrote: »Ok the way you say it, these oracles MAGICALLY appeard into the game from catshops. You are not good at explaining things and answering questions properly. He asked how they are gotten BESIDES monsters. they don't magically get generated from CATSHOPS
he said CASHSHOP not CATSHOP0 -
RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »You can get without using cs.
oracle --bought with--> token --obtained from--> annipack --bought from--> cashshop
oracle --obtained from--> spring pack --bought from--> jolly jones for GA --bought from--> cashshop
oracle --obtained from--> spring pack --bought from--> jolly jones for 100k
oracle --obtained from--> mob drop
two options cashshop, two options not. the non-cashshop options are too expensive and too rare for the amounts being sold in those catshops[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Do notice that caps lock usage is not a must. Or is it, when you troll?0
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Marshmallows - Dreamweaver wrote: »Ok the way you say it, these oracles MAGICALLY appeard into the game from catshops. You are not good at explaining things and answering questions properly. He asked how they are gotten BESIDES monsters. they don't magically get generated from CATSHOPSMiss_Teka - Lost City wrote: »he said CASHSHOP not CATSHOPAlexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »oracle --bought with--> token --obtained from--> annipack --bought from--> cashshop
oracle --obtained from--> spring pack --bought from--> jolly jones for GA --bought from--> cashshop
oracle --obtained from--> spring pack --bought from--> jolly jones for 100k
oracle --obtained from--> mob drop
two options cashshop, two options not. the non-cashshop options are too expensive and too rare for the amounts being sold in those catshops
It may come from cashshop, but you can get it using In game monies. (Buy tokens from catshop, or gold trading.) Thanks.
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Of course, you failed to read what was said. CASHshop, not CATshop. Otherwise known as the boutique. More precisely:
Anniversary packs->tokens of luck->gift exchange (where you can get most of the oracles).
You can get 4 of the lower level oracles from 1 anniversary pack (15 tokens of luck) and still have a few tokens left over (depending on what level or oracles you get).0 -
Marshmallows - Dreamweaver wrote: »Ok the way you say it, these oracles MAGICALLY appeard into the game from catshops. You are not good at explaining things and answering questions properly. He asked how they are gotten BESIDES monsters. they don't magically get generated from CATSHOPSMiss_Teka - Lost City wrote: »he said CASHSHOP not CATSHOP
thank you teka b:cuteReminissions - Sanctuary wrote: »It may come from cashshop, but you can get it using In game monies. (Buy tokens from catshop, or gold trading.) Thanks.
the original purchase point is cashshop, as i graphed out. therefore, they come from cashshop.
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EDIT: doublepost. see above[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »the original purchase point is cashshop, as i graphed out. therefore, they come from cashshop.
/debate
/fail argument
Reason --> You can get Zen --> Transfer to Gold --> Put in AH --> CashShop never touched b:victory
The only thing touched was your credit card and a few button clicks.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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yeah that's my bad. I misread the word. sorry
that's the second time I've been called a troll now. is this a new replacement for the word 'n00b' ? cuz frankly I'm getting sick of seeing it0 -
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They do come from cashshop, but it's, in this case of figure, an indirect way.
May as well say they come from coins that player saved. Not all the persons selling Oracles are CS user.
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RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »/fail argument
Reason --> You can get Zen --> Transfer to Gold --> Put in AH --> CashShop never touched b:victory
The only thing touched was your credit card and a few button clicks.
your point has nothing to do with oraclesReminissions - Sanctuary wrote: »<debate>
They do come from cashshop, but it's, in this case of figure, an indirect way.
May as well say they come from coins that player saved. Not all the persons selling Oracles are CS user.
</debate>
fail counterargument, core point unrelated to original argument[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »fail counterargument, core point unrelated to original argument
/fail counter counter argument, the core point was related since the player who is selling Oracle isn't using cash shop. They may have a relation undirect with cash shop, but you can't say they come from cash shop
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this isn't even supposed to be an argument.
I misread a word wrong which started a small quarrel, but the question has been answered. let's just leave it at that0 -
Reminissions - Sanctuary wrote: »/fail counter counter argument, the core point was related since the player who is selling Oracle isn't using cash shop. They may have a relation undirect with cash shop, but you can't say they come from cash shop
Off to bed, night.
*indirect
also:
their origin is the cashshop, therefore they were purchased from cashshop. stop trying to argue against fact
in closing, you have earned this:
Marshmallows - Dreamweaver wrote: »this isn't even supposed to be an argument.
I misread a word wrong which started a small quarrel, but the question has been answered. let's just leave it at that
this debate is separate from your mistake, we all saw you correct it, so you're free and clear b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I think I'm just used to seeing cash shop as 2 words and catshop as 1 XD I still can't believe I misread the word TWICE.
epic fail
anyways, sorry again. byebye b:bye0 -
You're very close, but the actual complete sequence is slightly longer, although the end result is the same:Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »oracle --bought with--> token --obtained from--> annipack --bought from--> cashshop
oracle --obtained from--> spring pack --bought from--> jolly jones for GA --bought from--> cashshop
oracle --obtained from--> spring pack --bought from--> jolly jones for 100k
oracle --obtained from--> mob drop
oracle --bought with--> token --obtained from--> other players selling to catshop --obtained from --> annipack --bought from--> cashshop
My girlfriend and I have been selling mostly Oracle II, III, V and VI since about a week after the event started. If you've seen a catshop completely packed with Oracles at the West Archo crossroads with a title like, "Oracle 5 50k", it was probably either me or my girlfriend.
On average, it took about 1 1/2 days to do a complete cycle of buying tokens, making 360 Oracles, then selling 360 Oracles. At 10% markup (which seriously undercut almost all of the competition), the average profit was about 1.2million per catshop per day.
Things have slowed down, however, because we've saturated the Oracle market. Also, Tokens are getting harder to buy. It seems more people are beginning to realize just how valuable Tokens are and less people are liquidating them. The end result is that the market is getting risky, so I've exited it at this point.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »your point has nothing to do with oracles
Yes it does....but mostly on your point that it is all CS.
Reread....I am simply making a point that CS does not have to be initially touched to get access to them.
As you claimed in the post above the one I was quoting.
So we can go like this: (just saying....you nothave to spend RL $$ as you have been so bitterly implying)
oracle --bought with--> token --obtained from--> annipack --bought from--> cashshop --> gold obtained by in-game coins in AH
oracle --obtained from--> spring pack --bought from--> jolly jones for GA --bought from--> cashshop --> with gold from in-game coins
oracle --obtained from--> spring pack --bought from--> jolly jones for 100k
** Are you bitter about the CS or what? You seem to be hyper-fixated on this when the answer to the OP's question was simple...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »Yes it does....but mostly on your point that it is all CS.
Reread....I am simply making a point that CS does not have to be initially touched to get access to them.
As you claimed in the post above the one I was quoting.
So we can go like this: (just saying....you nothave to spend RL $$ as you have been so bitterly implying)
oracle --bought with--> token --obtained from--> annipack --bought from--> cashshop --> gold obtained by in-game coins in AH
oracle --obtained from--> spring pack --bought from--> jolly jones for GA --bought from--> cashshop --> with gold from in-game coins
oracle --obtained from--> spring pack --bought from--> jolly jones for 100k
** Are you bitter about the CS or what? You seem to be hyper-fixated on this when the answer to the OP's question was simple...
you have still failed to provide a counter-argument. regardless if you buy the gold with RL cash or ingame coin, the oracles still come from cashshop
and the jolly jones i put in there only because yes, they can come directly from him without touching the cashshop/gold, but again, too expensive to make it worth it (you also excluded mob drops, but yea, waaaaay too rare)
also, i'm pretty sure the OP is referring to the current catshop flood of oracles, which has nothing to do with jolly jones. i could be wrong on this point though, but since the post is made today, i'll continue with that assumption unless OP says otherwise
also, not bitter about cashshop, in fact, quite the opposite. i like the cashshop (even though i myself cannot afford to spend on it except in the rare occasion)
finally, lest we forget the origin of this debate:Hi,
i am wondering how such a lot of ppl hold HUGE amounts of orcales...i mean...i am level 67 now and i've got NO oracle through drops yet...there are lots of shops with 200 and more oracles II etc...how is that possible? bug? duplicates? tell me..Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »cashshop
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i simply gave the pertinent information that the OP was asking for. where are they coming from in such large quantity?
oracle --bought with--> token --obtained from--> annipack --bought from--> cashshop
(gold from RL cash and gold from AH trades, doesn't matter, that wasn't the question OP asked)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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in all my grinding to this lvl i only seen less than 10 natural oracle drops b:cryAlexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »oracle --bought with--> token --obtained from--> annipack --bought from--> cashshop
oracle --obtained from--> spring pack --bought from--> jolly jones for GA --bought from--> cashshop
oracle --obtained from--> spring pack --bought from--> jolly jones for 100k
oracle --obtained from--> mob drop[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Wow....you are unbelievable...LMAO!
Well...think how you will Alexeno, but the point is and I will maintain this --> NOT ALL come from the CS.
b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »Wow....you are unbelievable...LMAO!
Well...think how you will Alexeno, but the point is and I will maintain this --> NOT ALL come from the CS.
b:bye
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Sorry, I gotta side with Alexeno on this one.RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »Wow....you are unbelievable...LMAO!
Well...think how you will Alexeno, but the point is and I will maintain this --> NOT ALL come from the CS.
I haven't touched the cashshop at all, even though my girlfriend and I have sold over 5,000 Oracles during this event.
But for me to argue, "No, they don't come from the cashshop," would be exactly the same as me trying to argue, "No, bread does not come from wheat, it comes from the supermarket."b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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