Bramble

Jellytops - Heavens Tear
Jellytops - Heavens Tear Posts: 141 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Venomancer
I think I've heard that Bramble Guard have no effect in PVP/duell. Does that apply to Bramble Hood also?
*-*-*When I wears my flashing sword and my hand takes hold on judgment. I will take vengeance upon mine enemies and I will repay those who hate me. Oh lord, raise me to thy right hand and count me among thy saints.*-*-*
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  • Bestialitee - Lost City
    Bestialitee - Lost City Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    i KNOW bramble hood works in pvp, cuz ive heard a well-timed hood is the best way to counter an enemy barb's armageddon/any other huge spike physical hit. im also fairly certain bramble guard works as well.

    you might have heard that bramble guard "doesnt work very well" in pvp because it only effects physical attacks and that means it wont be effective against every class.
  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Neither reflect in PvP to my knowledge. Only in duel, PvE, or TW. Hood has its absorption effect though.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Jellytops - Heavens Tear
    Jellytops - Heavens Tear Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Ok, thx for answers :0) The Bramble Hood's 75% reduction is golden when doing duels/PVP. I now know why it doesn't last longer :0P
    *-*-*When I wears my flashing sword and my hand takes hold on judgment. I will take vengeance upon mine enemies and I will repay those who hate me. Oh lord, raise me to thy right hand and count me among thy saints.*-*-*
  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Because you'd get more people QQing that the Venos are too overpowered. Hood works especially well in TT. =3
  • _Aphrael_ - Sanctuary
    _Aphrael_ - Sanctuary Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Hood works especially well in TT. =3

    I'l agree there, try luring shooting aur when soloing TT1-3 without hood and see how far you get
  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    _Aphrael_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'l agree there, try luring shooting aur when soloing TT1-3 without hood and see how far you get

    *lures/lured without hood all the time for 1-3 Shooting Aur*
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Chalkara - Lost City
    Chalkara - Lost City Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    yea our brambles dont reflect in PVP, hood will still reduce damage by 75% tho..they do work in PVE duels, TW and the cube of fate
  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Aur isn't too bad. Wurlord is the scary one. :(
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Don't cast Bramble Guard on anyone just you Venos.This is for members and vistors of the board.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    *Edit

    Thanks. =3 And no, Venos shouldn't buff other Venos with Bramble. Regardless of whether or not their Bramble is the same or better, it's always been a pet peeve to get buffed by another Veno. I prefer my own bramble to anyone else's.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Sevas - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    *Edit

    Thanks. =3 And no, Venos shouldn't buff other Venos with Bramble. Regardless of whether or not their Bramble is the same or better, it's always been a pet peeve to get buffed by another Veno. I prefer my own bramble to anyone else's.

    Unless they are HA you should never brumble venos nor clerics or Wiz.... if a mob hits you, you do not want to have generated any more aggro..... So your pet can pick up the mob fast......
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Oddly, I know a few archers and clerics who DO want the bramble.

    So it's worth asking. But don't bramble people without asking!

    Unless they're barbarians. Give them a green tutu and set their tail on fire when you see them.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Oddly, I know a few archers and clerics who DO want the bramble.

    So it's worth asking. But don't bramble people without asking!

    Unless they're barbarians. Give them a green tutu and set their tail on fire when you see them.

    That is because lots of players think that brumble will reduce the damage they take..... I had that argument yesterday with a cleric in a random TT run... he was adamante that brumble would reduce the damage he took if a mob aggroed him....
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Zetarana - Heavens Tear
    Zetarana - Heavens Tear Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Unless they are HA you should never brumble venos nor clerics or Wiz.... if a mob hits you, you do not want to have generated any more aggro..... So your pet can pick up the mob fast......

    Seconded - Pls do not Bramble indiscriminately... can cause way more problems than a barrel full of Monkeys...
    Zetarana - Arcane Veno
    Nephandus - Arcane Wizard
    Faction: Nocturne
  • LinZeta - Lost City
    LinZeta - Lost City Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Amen on that. I usually brambled everyone, no one said a thing to me until a few weeks ago. I learned not to bramble the cleric period. The only people I bramble now are the Barbs and BMs....and myself....cause I feel like it.
  • Brael - Dreamweaver
    Brael - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,430 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Sevas - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    *Edit

    Thanks. =3 And no, Venos shouldn't buff other Venos with Bramble. Regardless of whether or not their Bramble is the same or better, it's always been a pet peeve to get buffed by another Veno. I prefer my own bramble to anyone else's.

    I couldn't care less if other venos buff me, if they do I might end up hitting myself with bramble because I'm going to have it anyways so I might as well make sure I have level 10, but really... if a mob is going to hit me, I'm going to hit hood which overwrites guard anyways. It's not a big deal to me really.
  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I AoE grind in Hell with mobs that will sometimes turn and take a chunk of my HP if my herc didn't have enough agro on it. When I remember to buff myself with bramble, it doesn't take anyless time for my herc to regain agro. As for TT, you definitely want bramble on the whole squad for bosses like Drummer and Feng. Those aoes are physical damage and reflect back on the boss. However, I am of the firm belief that if a mob is going to hit me it should take some damage back. It only takes a couple hits for a barb/bm/pet to take agro from bramble and they probably aren't taking any damage anyway if they're running around in circles like a chicken with its head cut off to kite it.
  • The_Champion - Sanctuary
    The_Champion - Sanctuary Posts: 988 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Curse you venom's and your ability to make me kill myselfb:cry
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Sounds about right
  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    :P Everyone can do that just fine without Bramble. Trust me.
  • The_Champion - Sanctuary
    The_Champion - Sanctuary Posts: 988 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Sevas - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    :P Everyone can do that just fine without Bramble. Trust me.

    That's not niceb:sad
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Sounds about right
  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    xD It's true. I kill myself all the time when I try to do too much, bramble doesn't kill me, I kill me. Of course, rushing FB89s aren't the best things in the world to do.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Sevas - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    As for TT, you definitely want bramble on the whole squad for bosses like Drummer and Feng. Those aoes are physical damage and reflect back on the boss.

    Unfortunatly, ranged physical attacks, including AOEs do not reflect back. That changed was made almost a year ago.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Um. I disagree. It still works on those TT bosses. It does not work in PvP, but it does in PvE. I've run enough TTs and seen it work to know this.

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