This is why heavens tear is failing
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Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »I've always said it. The BEST way to learn how to play your class well is to NOT use your advantages and find out how to survive/win anyway. My bird does not have flesh ream, I don't use charms, I often pvp/TW petless and I've been known to tank high level bosses in foxform including the debuffer in frost and general wurlord in TT 2-3. Yeah wurlord killed me (of course) but I held him off long enough for the tank to get a res.
That is what makes me so tough in the game.
Yea, we're all familiar with the lyrics to "Eye of the Tiger" but back on the subject of the economy affecting those of us who won't survive the zombie apocalypse...0 -
Stickygreen - Heavens Tear wrote: »ROFL AHAHAHAHAHAAHA
youd get rolled in 2 seconds by any half decent pker in PvP. come meet me at west gate, ill show you
People like you aren't worth my time. You talk big but can never back it up.b:cute
I am talking about the game econ. Learn to play better and you can go without the cash shop. Using it gives you an advantage of course, its supposed to. However you don't NEED that advantage if you are good enough at actually playing.
Depending on the cash shop is what makes players so weak...Main characters
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ROFL AHAHAHAHAHAA your scared Zoe, id roll you in a couple seconds, and you cant handle that fact, so you come up with BS excuses, im backing it up, im at west gate right now waiting for you, you talk big... but i dont see you proving it?
oh wait... your the fail veno who doesnt know what logic is..... what else to expect?Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks
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Fight Fight Fight Fight Fight.The only way to win is to quit. b:bye0
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DarkSniper - Lost City wrote: »Fight Fight Fight Fight Fight.
I hope either takes a screenshot of the fight.
That is, if it ever happens.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Zoes too scared to come out and fight me... wont happen, even though im sitting right outside of safezone... such a fail veno...Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks
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Stickygreen - Heavens Tear wrote: »Zoes too scared to come out and fight me... wont happen, even though im sitting right outside of safezone... such a fail veno...
I try my best to remain neutral to her.
You restat to AA yet?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »People like you aren't worth my time. You talk big but can never back it up.b:cute
I am talking about the game econ. Learn to play better and you can go without the cash shop. Using it gives you an advantage of course, its supposed to. However you don't NEED that advantage if you are good enough at actually playing.
Depending on the cash shop is what makes players so weak...
The issue is not that the game becomes so hard it can't be beat, it's the grind... Even farming TT with an herc gets old kinda fast and there's only so much time you can put in the game.0 -
naw, right as i had enough money to restat, then restat back, anniversery packs came outLess QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks
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DarkSniper - Lost City wrote: »Fight Fight Fight Fight Fight.
Troll Troll Troll Troll Troll.
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Stickygreen - Heavens Tear wrote: »naw, right as i had enough money to restat, then restat back, anniversery packs came out
u.u Sucks, man.DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote:Troll Troll Troll Troll Troll.
He's in RQ, apparently all the trolls are there in LC.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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__Kikyo__ - Lost City wrote: »HAHAHA DUDE NICE!b:chuckle
why thankyou! ^^
and also. GET APOTHECARY!!! its better than charms! if you still whine about charms? get a job b:chuckle"Closing this for excess letter Q's" - hawk0 -
I think the economy is basically doomed, to be honest. Not in the apocalyptic sense, but rather that it's doomed to repeat this same cycle of boom-bust at the designer's/marketing-department's whims again and again and again.Yea, we're all familiar with the lyrics to "Eye of the Tiger" but back on the subject of the economy affecting those of us who won't survive the zombie apocalypse...
Looking back at the past, it's pretty obvious the player's repeated requests for economic stability have been completely ignored (or, in the case of the current anniversary packs, they've been outright attacked). This is either a deliberate decision to focus upon promotions and sales at the expense of market stability, or else it's because the people in charge are sincerely naive and don't understand how their decisions affect the game economy.
I'm not in favour of this, even though it benefits me personally due to my playing the markets. So I may not play the game like you do, but I do know that the game is only healthy when it attracts all kinds of players.
I don't know what the future holds, but I do speak up when people try to blame other players, or try to call for boycotts, or try to hyper-moralize in-game economic decisions, etc... Those are all red-herrings. The heart of the issue is that the designer's decisions change the heart of the game.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »I think the economy is basically doomed, to be honest. Not in the apocalyptic sense, but rather that it's doomed to repeat this same cycle of boom-bust at the designer's/marketing-department's whims again and again and again.
Looking back at the past, it's pretty obvious the player's repeated requests for economic stability have been completely ignored (or, in the case of the current anniversary packs, they've been outright attacked). This is either a deliberate decision to focus upon promotions and sales at the expense of market stability, or else it's because the people in charge are sincerely naive and don't understand how their decisions affect the game economy.
I'm not in favour of this, even though it benefits me personally due to my playing the markets. So I may not play the game like you do, but I do know that the game is only healthy when it attracts all kinds of players.
I don't know what the future holds, but I do speak up when people try to blame other players, or try to call for boycotts, or try to hyper-moralize in-game economic decisions, etc... Those are all red-herrings. The heart of the issue is that the designer's decisions change the heart of the game.
Gold will lower in time, you wait. cuz i know a few little things that can stop this economy thing. and also, pwi is growing, its natural that PWE need cash to actually keep us entertained, like the Rising TIde expansion soon."Closing this for excess letter Q's" - hawk0 -
WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »
I don't know what the future holds, but I do speak up when people try to blame other players, or try to call for boycotts, or try to hyper-moralize in-game economic decisions, etc... Those are all red-herrings. The heart of the issue is that the designer's decisions change the heart of the game.
I couldn't agree more.0 -
Arron - Dreamweaver wrote: »Gold will lower in time, you wait. cuz i know a few little things that can stop this economy thing. and also, pwi is growing, its natural that PWE need cash to actually keep us entertained, like the Rising TIde expansion soon.
Yeah, tell that to PW-MY[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote: »Yeah, tell that to PW-MY
The thing is though, people still buy at Delphi's 1.1mil+/gold prices. The price will always lie where the demand meets the supply; another thing to note, there is far more Zen being charged in PWI than there is in any one of the other servers.*
*Just my estimation though; but hell, I'd even bet PWI grosses more than all the other servers combined.0 -
Gold will lower in time, you wait. cuz i know a few little things that can stop this economy thing. and also, pwi is growing, its natural that PWE need cash to actually keep us entertained, like the Rising TIde expansion soon.
So completely stupid.
Ok first of all, gold prices don't need to be at this insanely high level in order for PWE to be able to do the new expansion. They did the first 2 expansions wihout such a crazy market bust. I've been hearing people assure us gold would go down when It was 175kea, now look at it.
Oh and please tell me what you "know" that "can" stop this economy, I need a good laugh.The only way to win is to quit. b:bye0 -
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Gold prices wont go down unless ppl stop buyng it in AH. As long PWI does new Events, ppl will buy it. As long they buy it, gold prices stay as they are. Means never ever Gold gonna be cheap again under 200k lol..unless all ppl are broke and cant afford it anymore. But lets see....gold still at 450k...and ppl still buying it...so they can afford it...so IT WONT GO DOWN
I just pity low lvls, who cant afford a iron hammer anymore at lvl50 for their stash (price on DreamWaver 2,5mil for one hammer). Anything else...i stopped to buy any stuff at all. Charms to expensive. TT-Mats ridiculous (up and down). I just do my own stuff and watch (smirking) over the market, which did already COLLAPSE. And laughing my **** off cause like 90% still didnt realise it (including GMs).
Stop QQ ppl in Forums. People dont give a f*** what you think as long they can make $$$$. Stop buying gold in AH, ignore all s*** you dont need in boutique and try to survive.
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my son doesnt use a charm-cant afford them, and his job would eat them like tictacs. so he *used to* depend on his genie and pots, and on meds i make him. now he doesnt know what he will do, now that ToP and barb skills are nerfed....he is extremely upset about all of itIceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »And I even seen him do a TT run with a barb without a HP charm while he was BBing and healing without a Mana Charm, including wurlord.... And nobody got killed.... Just took some planning before each boss.
I do TT runs 1-3 thourgh 2-3 all the time with a barb without HP charm and with Cleric without mana charm, and we kill every boss.... It just requires planning.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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For characters with relatively low HP, Essence Penetration is a new Genie skill that replaces ToP very nicely. It's cheaper to use and the healing is instant.FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »my son doesnt use a charm-cant afford them, and his job would eat them like tictacs. so he *used to* depend on his genie and pots, and on meds i make him. now he doesnt know what he will do, now that ToP and barb skills are nerfed....he is extremely upset about all of it
For characters with relatively high HP, such as Barbs, ToP is still pretty much just as useful as it was before, provided you level it up and invest some more Genie points/affinities into it. While it is slightly nerfed, I find it still pretty much does what it did before (ie. heals me to 100% after 6 seconds). The main difference is probably when being used as a combo with Armageddon, but all the people who were using Thunderstorm as their Genie PK skill had a far, far greater nerf than ToP.
Also, what Barb skill nerfs are you referring to? Barbs have had skill boosts over the past months. We've gotten free stuns, extra debuffs, and 100% hits added to our existing skills, unlike all the other classes who have gotten nothing.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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b:chuckle i provide the pw with a lot of gold and a lot of cute fashion ^^ so is ok if is expensive for me.
but sadly it is going down down down O_O good for you all ofc...
but i danno... i can make 100k very fast from quest or grind i would not like that to be the cost of one dollar wich for me it would be one hour of work in real life... so i really like it to be around 400k for one dollar...
cuz is much more fair... i can get 400k in one hour in game or 1 dollar working.
so unless you in USA or a rich european nation... it is not big deal
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Vko - Heavens Tear wrote: »b:chuckle i provide the pw with a lot of gold and a lot of cute fashion ^^ so is ok if is expensive for me.
but sadly it is going down down down O_O good for you all ofc...
but i danno... i can make 100k very fast from quest or grind i would not like that to be the cost of one dollar wich for me it would be one hour of work in real life... so i really like it to be around 400k for one dollar...
cuz is much more fair... i can get 400k in one hour in game or 1 dollar working.
so unless you in USA or a rich european nation... it is not big deal
b:bye
with love, from your V
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If I were to sell coin at a 100k per dollar ratio: I could make a living playing. I don't cash shop, I'm doing great at Lv98, and I believe there are many other legitimate problems to complain about.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0
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If I were to sell coin at a 100k per dollar ratio: I could make a living playing. I don't cash shop, I'm doing great at Lv98, and I believe there are many other legitimate problems to complain about.
You cant sell coins b:embarrassThanks for the siggy Dorset
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Zyhara - Sanctuary wrote: »Oh. My. God. That is just completely absurd. Wow.. I'm really glad I stopped playing this game. As far as I'm concerned this game is dead. It was great for a really long time, and I was behind it 100%, but they screwed up bad. Too bad. I took my business to another game that had it under control, and I'm happy to report I'm having a much better time.
If you are no longer involved with the game (I.E. Playing it) then why are you posting about it? Seems counter intuitive to me.
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Vko - Heavens Tear wrote: »b:chuckle i provide the pw with a lot of gold and a lot of cute fashion ^^ so is ok if is expensive for me.
but sadly it is going down down down O_O good for you all ofc...
but i danno... i can make 100k very fast from quest or grind i would not like that to be the cost of one dollar wich for me it would be one hour of work in real life... so i really like it to be around 400k for one dollar...
cuz is much more fair... i can get 400k in one hour in game or 1 dollar working.
so unless you in USA or a rich european nation... it is not big deal
b:bye
with love, from your V
you dont get one dollar an hour, if you do please stop working at that place youll make more selling peoples trash and there is no reason to lower yourself into a slummy business like that.
It used to be about 140k per cash shop gold, at average and it was great that way. I wouldnt complain if it was 200-240k either but over 400k per gold is a joke and its pointless for anyone to buy it.
whats worse then that is I keep seeing people sell absolute **** for millions, i saw a female dress that was over a million and more of them, it wasnt a rare one and the color was pink, not red nor black.
normal, unspurred mounts going for almost 3mill, when it used to be 1mill and sometimes even less.
I really hope people arnt buying the gold at that price.
its almost one mill ever two gold, I seriously dont think you want to get something worth, currently, 700k or hopefully less for a few mill.
the people selling the gold at that price, are either really greedy, which is odd and hilerious for a video game, that they didnt pay, nor do anything for, or they have WAY to much pride in their work, and unless your saving lives or making any real difference in the world, I fail to see the reason for it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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i believe half the problem are the stupid people on here that dont understand how the AH system works . listen.. You can bid a price for gold that someone else has also bid , you dont need to enter one higher for your bid to count. dont put higher than someone else , bid what they have and your bid then goes into queue. You will get your gold in turn, even tho you bid the same as someone else. I have watched the AH for periods of time and i beleive half the problem of high gold prices is for this very reason.b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry We love this game STOP RUINING IT !! b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry
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Quick Reply - ppl put a sock in it ... I look at that then i think of what gold cost while anni packs first came out 600k - 700k if i remeber correctly.Vote for allowing wolves to turn into wolfs not tigers
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09-15-2009, 06:46 PM
lol this was posted sept 15th last year and someone dug it up? People get really bored when servers go down dont they lol0
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