Real Solo Ability of cleric?

Jorjie - Sanctuary

I have read mixed "reviews" on the solo ability of a cleric and thought I would ask here.

I do Not want to group (as a healer) as I am terrrrrible at it b:chuckle But I do like the idea of being able to heal myself.

Thought now that I would ask directly as you have played this class.

Thanks!

RedsRose - Lost City

Great solo class imo.

I cannot tell you how many of my own bosses I have been able to solo and not bother anyone. In fact, just yesterday I solo'd my 99 culti bosses b:cute

The only problem with what you are saying, is that MANY people will see you as a cleric and expect someone who can heal, revive, support , etc.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

To what extent do you mean by solo?

RedsRose - Lost City

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

To what extent do you mean by solo?

Have to get all technical....lol

I went with mobs and bosses (many not all).

Sevas - Heavens Tear

Solo = being able to do **** on your own with minimal help. (That should have been obvious.)

FatherTed - Dreamweaver

Grinding solo? Cake. At least as far as I have gotten. A half decent knowledge of your character and a marginally intelligent skill set should make any mob your tiny little girlfriend.

Jorjie - Sanctuary

Thank you all for the feedback - I really appreciate it.

I have a small home business and it is Very difficult for me to group.

And with the cleric one of my fears was that I would be asked - and as stated above - I am a Terrible healer when it comes to others. Because I do it SO seldom I actually forget to heal and just keep fighting.

But mostly it is because I need to AFK at odd times and for different lengths of time. Not fair to a group.

Thanks again - can't wait to make a cleric and try it out!

Sevas - Heavens Tear

Your two favorite heal skills should be Ironheart and Wellspring, just for solo grinding. http://www.ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Sevas - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Solo = being able to do **** on your own with minimal help. (That should have been obvious.)

2 pples answers already stated 2 kinds of solos (technically their the same but kinda diff.)

1) Like FatherTed said, grinding. Killing done to lvl up, farm money, or do quests. Everyday mobs you see here and there that pop up on your main screen. These are fairly simple as you have 2 main attacks you use that will literally be your best friend in PWI. Ironheart heals every so often will also save you. These stack up to 5 times so you can either heal first then attack and have your heals ticking for a good amount of time, or attack first and just heal yourself midway like normal games.

-you can pretty much go with normal gear for this (aka affordable)


2) Miniboss, or boss. Ones that Rose stated. These are usually 1 vs 1. It would be best to stack ironheart heals first before the initial attacks for bosses. Clerics have low HP and ironheart does take a second or two to 'kick in'. You want to be ready at the first hit. It will allow you to see how often you have to stop your attacks to cast and stack heals on you till you can switch to attack mode again. You can afford to Leeroy on grinding mobs but not here.

-types of gear might also play a part depending on what. Aside from your normal magic robes, it would be nice to keep a lookout for some physical defence or VIT ornaments. -%channeling gear is always a plus, allows you to cast faster. (obtainable higher lvls)



You CAN solo alot of them. Some will depend on skill, others will depend purely on how well you are decked out in gear. If you think some clerics soloed some REALLY HARD things, dont straight on believe them yet. Ask what they were also wearing. Some pple will leave that tidbit out.

Frijolero - Sanctuary

RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »

The only problem with what you are saying, is that MANY people will see you as a cleric and expect someone who can heal, revive, support , etc.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8309/oots0006.gif b:chuckle

I also don't have too much free time to play, so what I do is finish all the quests I can do solo and leave the Bosses or the hardest quests for the weekend, when I have more time for team play/questing.

And yes, cleric is a good solo class. But the fun part of MMOs is to play with some other players.

Rillien - Heavens Tear

Some people might disagree, but wearing Light Armour (3 mag, 1 str, 1 dex per level) allowed me to solo lots of bosses/minibosses around the level I got the quest (a lot of bosses hit physical rather than magic attacks). Also, most mobs hit with physical attacks up until 60.

Full mag or hybrid builds are better for grinding though in higher levels. Full mag (9 mag, 1 str every 2 levels) will make you the squishiest, while vit builds (6 mag, 3 vit, 1 str every 2 levels) provide about as much survivability as LA.

It's all about your playstyle, but regardless I think clerics have some of the best soloing abilities in the game.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

You might want to check this out.

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=252792

Inias - Heavens Tear

yeah cleric may seem weak and squishi but it's one of the few classes that can do most bosses on their own (minibosses or culti's) at higher lvl that is like 70~80+ depends on yr gear lol

like today i solo tanked and killed fb 89 boss at lvl 95

so yeah you just need to know yr limits and a cleric can do alot of stuff on their own

Jazille - Dreamweaver

I made a cleric and she just turned 6 - and I am having a lot of fun with her!

I really appreciate the feedback and links - Very Helpful. b:kiss

What is a good Craft for a Cleric. I know you can learn them all but to specialize I wondered if Tailor or blacksmith etc would have advantages from one to another one?

Ohh Tee Hee this is the OP - I changed my avatar to the Cleric Character and server!

Sevas - Heavens Tear

Apothecary. Just like other mage classes, you eat mana like no tomorrow. Mana apoth pots are always good to have on hand. Other than those, you might want some speed and defense pots. =3

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

Jazille - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I made a cleric and she just turned 6 - and I am having a lot of fun with her!

I really appreciate the feedback and links - Very Helpful. b:kiss

What is a good Craft for a Cleric. I know you can learn them all but to specialize I wondered if Tailor or blacksmith etc would have advantages from one to another one?

Ohh Tee Hee this is the OP - I changed my avatar to the Cleric Character and server!

Don't do that untill much later on though as soloing at your lvl is fine don't do this vs any gold or copper mobs.Apotho is good as there is Apothocaries in every town.

Jazille - Dreamweaver

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

Don't do that untill much later on though as soloing at your lvl is fine don't do this vs any gold or copper mobs.Apotho is good as there is Apothocaries in every town.

What do you mean by the 'gold or copper mods" - sorry I am still so new I don't understand what you mean.

I really want the extra storage space for the 'crafting materials' only but If I have read this correctly I NEED to BUY this with Real Money?

With this extra storage I could collect the plants every time I come across them and save them for the apothacary - right?

Also - with the idea in mind of building a Solo Cleric - what skills should I advance and which ones should I (almost) ignore? With the idea that I will only need to "heal thyself" and not a group (if this makes a difference??)

You guys are Awesome! Thanks so much for the help and info b:kiss

Desire - Dreamweaver

Jazille - Dreamweaver wrote: »

What do you mean by the 'gold or copper mods" - sorry I am still so new I don't understand what you mean.

I really want the extra storage space for the 'crafting materials' only but If I have read this correctly I NEED to BUY this with Real Money?

With this extra storage I could collect the plants every time I come across them and save them for the apothacary - right?

Also - with the idea in mind of building a Solo Cleric - what skills should I advance and which ones should I (almost) ignore? With the idea that I will only need to "heal thyself" and not a group (if this makes a difference??)

You guys are Awesome! Thanks so much for the help and info b:kiss

Ironheart Blessing it's your primary healing skill which you need and will need it in future, wellspring surge it's your secondary healing skill which is very helpfull aswell. . And your attack skills , coz you need those either for grinding or DD'ing or whatever it is. Buffs and debuffs are playing an important roll on cleric job so you might want to get those too. Plume shell , very helpfull mostly when you meet physc. mobs. But anyway , when you get higher level you will squad with people for bosses and other dungeons that you will need or something.b:bye

Sevas - Heavens Tear

Mob that are a higher level than you will show up as a yellow-ish to a dark, burnt orange color to let you know they are x-amount of levels above (and will probably kill you in a couple hits). It could also mean cultivation mobs that end up as mini-bosses which you probably need help with too (esp. if they are physical mobs).

Jazille - Dreamweaver

Thanks again!

Should most of the 'points' go into Magic with a few into Vit, Str and Dex?
What are the advantages/disadvantages of putting more into Vit etc? Adding to these are good for ?? better weapons or armor or speed etc?

Again - for a Solo character - good to be able to live thru a fight and travel alone.

Desire - Dreamweaver

Jazille - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Thanks again!

Should most of the 'points' go into Magic with a few into Vit, Str and Dex?
What are the advantages/disadvantages of putting more into Vit etc? Adding to these are good for ?? better weapons or armor or speed etc?

Again - for a Solo character - good to be able to live thru a fight and travel alone.

Dex cleric = fail unless you are Light Armour. Put str in just enough to use your wep / gear. If you want more HP and not to be so squishy then yeah you can put points in vit, it's your choise how you manage that with points in vit or no, you can get HP from refining gear or putting HP shards on, and yes, mag all the way around , better heals, better damage.

Deornim - Sanctuary

Jazille - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Should most of the 'points' go into Magic with a few into Vit, Str and Dex?

I suggest the Attack Cleric Build from the stickies at the top of this forum.

Add nothing to VIT or DEX. Add just enough STR for the next bit of arcane armor or magic weapon for your next level.

Put everything else in MAG. The more, the better. Nuke those mobs.

Use the spell suggestions in the guide.

Arcane Armor, Magic weapons, and +HP jewelry if available.

I'm leveling now using this, and generally stuff dies before or very shortly after it reaches me. Buy a pair of cheap silver HP and a Spirit charms from the Boutique, and paint the world red.

Slake - Lost City

Attack cleric build = fail.

Just add vitality when u feel u need it. The rest goes into magic (apart from the 1 str every 2 lvls)

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

It is good idea to put point into vit for an all around cleric this means joining squads and later doing TT.You can wait untill after 30 though and shard your armour.Do not keep your IronHeart lvled.

Desire - Dreamweaver

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

Do not keep your IronHeart lvled.

What do you mean by not keeping IH leveled ? o.O

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

Desire - Dreamweaver wrote: »

What do you mean by not keeping IH leveled ? o.O

Woops I meant lvled up.

Sevas - Heavens Tear

If you're in the roll of support/attack cleric, then you'll put the majority of your points into MAG. You will need the minimum STR required for armor and weapons. You shouldn't need DEX unless you want to go with LA, otherwise don't worry about it. I'm not sure of the conversion for the Cleric, but I think you get 10HP/1VIT. Is that right? I would recommend you put some points in there for better survivability. You can also get +VIT ornaments from the AH and they're usually pretty cheap depending on how much VIT they add. When you shard your armor, I recommend Citrines. Obviously, Sapphires for your weapons.

Deornim - Sanctuary

Slake - Lost City wrote: »

Attack cleric build = fail.

Just add vitality when u feel u need it. The rest goes into magic (apart from the 1 str every 2 lvls)

For leveling, I havn't had a problem with the build. As long as I use some care, and don't take on a herd of mobs, they burn down just fine, without coming anywhere near slapping down my HP. More MAG means they die quicker, and I level faster.

For the role of healing cleric, yea, it fails. As a solo leveling DPS, it works pretty damned good.

Sevas - Heavens Tear

There's nothing wrong with the attack cleric "style" of playing it just means the skills are leveled differently and their roll is more DD than FS. I'm trying it out on my second cleric. I had to add some VIT, though, because I didn't like being so squishy. Skill points are still mostly the same (depending on who's advice for that build you're following).

Aydamn - Lost City

My tactic was to go pure magic until 60 and then start pumping vit, and it worked a charm. You kill things faster, so you get through the lower levels when you won't be doing any HH or PVP quite quickly, and as long as you're careful to heal yourself you're fine.
I've since restatted (i.e vit into mag) as I have better gear and thus more hp, and I can solo a fair few things without much difficulty. Also with maxed razor feathers etc you can have a lot of fun with aoe too.

TheChiken - Lost City

it is posible-sample for that is raven drake brute BH 69 boss
If you have many many pots you can solo him but in long long time that is