An archer's weakness?

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  • _Miku_ - Lost City
    _Miku_ - Lost City Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    XD so true until someone is too close but than you have your magic attacks.
    Maybe a mage 1vs1 when u 2 r in close ranged?
  • Accelerated - Sanctuary
    Accelerated - Sanctuary Posts: 1,048 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    That requires a veno to transfer a spark to the wizard after that wizard regains a spark, assuming they had 3 full sparks and 99 chi.

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    While Force of Will only lasts for 5 seconds at Maxed, it's long enough for an end game wizard to kill the chicken or the venomancer, while the other is silenced.
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  • _Miku_ - Lost City
    _Miku_ - Lost City Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    and 2 sec of that is used on the cast O.o
    Ive played a wizzie before
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    An archer's weakness?

    PvE -lack of heals, god their all so squishy in dungeons

    PvP -same as cleric, being ganked by multiple
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  • Xymantha - Dreamweaver
    Xymantha - Dreamweaver Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    An archer's weakness?

    PvE -lack of heals, god their all so squishy in dungeons

    PvP -same as cleric, being ganked by multiple

    Well, if you bring along a veno for pulling (one who actually knows how to pull) and a tank (who actually knows how to tank) then it shouldnt be too big a deal.. then the archer just sits back and does his DD thing. I've not seen any archers pull agro from the better tanks I've run with. but of course, those same weaknesses you mentioned could be said of any class in a same level instance. I dont think even a barb can live through having agro from multiple elite mobs unless he is much higher level. Now.. if he's charmed perhaps. But thats a real charm burner right there.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    DarkSniper - Lost City wrote: »
    Archers have no weaknesses, we are perfection.

    your weak against.
    PIE!
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    and then theres also the built in game mechanics of archers which using me noob power me can prevent them from escaping.
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  • Vardamirh - Dreamweaver
    Vardamirh - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    DarkSniper - Lost City wrote: »
    Archers have no weaknesses, we are perfection.

    Just look THIS THREAD b:chuckle

    Crying archers b:cry


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  • LordRaptor - Heavens Tear
    LordRaptor - Heavens Tear Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    lol a veno can beat a wizard, but the wizard can beat the veno too ( lets say the wizz and veno are both lvl 80). it depends who is attacking first, who have the better weo and who use his skills better. and a lvl 80 archer can beat a lvl 80 barb too. An archer needs distance all his skills and attacks (without the metal skills) makes just 50% of dmg if the mob/player stands too near.
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  • angellicdeity
    angellicdeity Posts: 641 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    _Miku_ - Lost City wrote: »
    LOL yes
    Force of will doesnt last long D;
    All i know is that clerics can sleep the nix for a long time XD
    Mages cannot.
    But mages do big damage O.o
    Im sure nix will go down in a few shots xD
    and you have a AOE stun move so you can use mountain press
    Sultra+mountain press on veno and nix
    Than u finish off the veno?

    If a mage criticals with the right skill, a mage can 1-hit a Herc, Barb, or Pheonix.
    LordRaptor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lol a veno can beat a wizard, but the wizard can beat the veno too ( lets say the wizz and veno are both lvl 80). it depends who is attacking first, who have the better weo and who use his skills better. and a lvl 80 archer can beat a lvl 80 barb too. An archer needs distance all his skills and attacks (without the metal skills) makes just 50% of dmg if the mob/player stands too near.


    Beating a charmed barb as an Archer is next to impossible. You need 3 criticals of at least 4000+ damage.

    1 For the charm, 2 more for the kill.


    The only way you're getting that is if you use your metal skills. But their cast and channel time is rather large.
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Xymantha - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Well, if you bring along a veno for pulling (one who actually knows how to pull) and a tank (who actually knows how to tank) then it shouldnt be too big a deal.. then the archer just sits back and does his DD thing. I've not seen any archers pull agro from the better tanks I've run with. but of course, those same weaknesses you mentioned could be said of any class in a same level instance. I dont think even a barb can live through having agro from multiple elite mobs unless he is much higher level. Now.. if he's charmed perhaps. But thats a real charm burner right there.
    If you got 2 other classes to back u up then no class has a weakness. too many IFs
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  • _Miku_ - Lost City
    _Miku_ - Lost City Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    LOL if i had a team of 3 id get a bm to stun lock someone and maybe a cleric for the heals and I just DD with a nix if i ever get one XD
  • OOCKYOo - Sanctuary
    OOCKYOo - Sanctuary Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I'd say it depends on the builds and gear.
    If you put a LA wiz against an Archer (LA ofcourse) it would be very close, but if you put a Robe Wiz against and Archer the chances of the Wiz winning is slim.
    I've taken down lvl 90 Robe players b:victory
    When it comes to our weakness, I'd say anything that can hit us alot.
    Personally I dont mess with BM's and Barbs that have Misty Rings (+50% accuracy) since they get in the 5m minimum and are able to accually hit you then.
    As for the other classes well Robe users aint that hard, but LA clerics and Wizzies are quite a challenge :)
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  • SashaSlick - Sanctuary
    SashaSlick - Sanctuary Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Wat i know so far...
    U cn't kill an archer who knows wat to do nwhen to do stuff..
    i killed mobs n bosses way higher than my lvl.. i killed wizzies 10lvl higher b4..
    It all depends on whos more smart in the fight..
    Even when archers ar losing, they wont die.. jus got away coz theyr somehow made to run away from trouble.
    Wit the sheld n wing of grace... its a perfect getaway.
    So if ur an archer n u die, ur jus out of luck.
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  • Archers_Soul - Lost City
    Archers_Soul - Lost City Posts: 746 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    a lvl 100 wiz is everyones enemy but imo when it comes down to an archers TRUE evemy its barb hands down.
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  • Mythsoul - Heavens Tear
    Mythsoul - Heavens Tear Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    An archers enemy is a cleric.
    plume shell makes their physical attack nothing.
    Their magic attacks are jokes.
    cyclone takes 30% of an archers hp away, all that's needed is tempest.
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  • _Xaxier_ - Lost City
    _Xaxier_ - Lost City Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Archer can be very deadly and can be an easy class to beat. How I beat archers are by coming up to them. They can't push me back =). So they would run back for space. Those metal won't keep up so don't put your hands on them too much.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    archer's weakness?

    Sutra portal! can't kill that which escapes~

    (>.<) lol although thats not really a weakness... o.o'

    dam they have no weaknesses.......yet.

    b:surrender
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  • Iyania - Heavens Tear
    Iyania - Heavens Tear Posts: 612 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    A tank that cannot hold aggro.
    This is the one and only correct answer to the OP.

    Archers can be killed by many things but this is the one true weakness. All other ways are dependent on luck (whether or not the archer crits you for massive pwnage)
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Iyania - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    This is the one and only correct answer to the OP.

    Archers can be killed by many things but this is the one true weakness. All other ways are dependent on luck (whether or not the archer crits you for massive pwnage)

    thats like the weakness to.....every class except possibly venos.

    yes I include barbs in this seeing as how they'll die soon after without a cleric or charm.
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  • Accelerated - Sanctuary
    Accelerated - Sanctuary Posts: 1,048 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    Sutra portal! can't kill that which escapes~
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    thats like the weakness to.....every class

    Hypocrite wizard b:angry.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Accelerated - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Hypocrite wizard b:angry.

    thats right~ (>.<) wait hows that a hypocritical statement?

    D:

    but then again everyone's weakness is kun kun punch~

    DX
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  • Accelerated - Sanctuary
    Accelerated - Sanctuary Posts: 1,048 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    thats right~ (>.<) wait hows that a hypocritical statement?

    D:

    but then again everyone's weakness is kun kun punch~

    DX

    Because stealing aggro is not a weakness for a wizard that's not there b:angry. I used the wrong word D:
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Accelerated - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Because stealing aggro is not a weakness for a wizard that's not there b:angry. I used the wrong word D:

    lols~ (>.<) it is
    D:

    about 4 days ago was in a squad with 3 barbs and all 3 failed miserably as barbs.

    we were at Farren in BH39 and well it was more like the main tank barb pulled a epic fail and somehow managed to die when he was level 55 with a HP charm and a cleric stacking heals on him.
    the other 2 simply dropped dead... most likely by farren aoe...
    no time to sutra portal out.. little midget ran straight for me b:shockedb:cryb:surrender
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  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    That boss is mean... So is Wyvern in 51 (and the last bosses in 69 >< EA in 89 Brim is the worst!) TT bosses beat FB bosses hands down. T_T

    Archer's worst enemy -> ambush + stun =3
  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Accelerated - Sanctuary wrote: »
    There's only one solution...
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  • Ayano-chan - Sanctuary
    Ayano-chan - Sanctuary Posts: 575 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Well there are a couple of weaknesses but here's their strong point :

    Females - best boobies at max size,enuff ' said .

    Males - their g a y ness will blind ppl and a blind target won't even hit you.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Ayano-chan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well there are a couple of weaknesses but here's their strong point :

    Females - best boobies at max size,enuff ' said .

    Males - their g a y ness will blind ppl and a blind target won't even hit you.

    lols!!!
    ya the male lightning attack animation is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad. b:shocked
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  • Belldandy_ - Dreamweaver
    Belldandy_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Is he wearing elf wings???

    Looks like it. He probably has an instant kill Shoop-da-Whoop skill as well.
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  • Brigid - Harshlands
    Brigid - Harshlands Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Belldandy_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Looks like it. He probably has an instant kill Shoop-da-Whoop skill as well.

    Don't know about that, but GMs do have some kind of indefinite immunity to damage skill. As though their effectively-infinite evasion weren't enough. What I really want to see is a Demon Lightning Strike or some other never-miss skill on a GM though b:laugh
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Brigid - Harshlands wrote: »
    Don't know about that, but GMs do have some kind of indefinite immunity to damage skill. As though their effectively-infinite evasion weren't enough. What I really want to see is a Demon Lightning Strike or some other never-miss skill on a GM though b:laugh

    lol gm infinite evasion will over power the never miss status of the demon lightning strike. And the GM would probably proceed to beat you to a pulp.
    xD
    b:shocked flying barbarians with elf wings.
    anyone got a screenshot of it?
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