idea for closing class guides in forums for a while

I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear
I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear Posts: 246 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Suggestion Box
rewriting it to prevent forum trollers from trying to ruin a good way to improve a game
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also wish they would fix the dam prob with my "join date" its way off>_>
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  • Hasukurobi - Heavens Tear
    Hasukurobi - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Despite being one who says F*** the Norm and who has created three characters now who are very successful yet defy the Guides and Status Quo immensely, I have to shoot this suggestion down.

    The reason being that this game is rather complex and an improperly spent Spirit Point or Stat Point here or there can REALLY haunt you later. When you want the stats to equip that next item, to have the damage you need, to have the HP you need, or the SP to buy the skills you desperately desire and are lacking because you screwed up so bad. Of course it would be a money maker in terms of Reset notes but I think it is just plain a bad call. Especially brand new players need some guidance so they can get a feel for how things work. Then they can experiment from there and find new builds if they are so adventurous.

    Also, not all players want to go outside the lines and many people WANT others to tell them what to do. May as well not put them outside their comfort zone. There is also no reason for them to stumble upon the true power of alternate builds if they do not have the personal fortitude to go find them on their own. I like Pwning you Mage Venos LOL! The last thing I want is an army of Foxes and Fist Masters stealing my Glory.
  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    This game PUNISH people from trying to explore, so it is not a good idea to force new people into re-inventing the wheel. And it won't work as intended anyway, because people will simply post the guide somewhere else. Force people not to help other also means less community bonding.
    If this suggestion are going to work, stats reset scroll must be free and skill refund scroll must be added and cost no money to buy.
    Also, the game is not really complicate enough to make people want to explore. The mechanics need to be changed, right now pure beat hybrid at high level, and all skill maxed beat not all skill maxed, no question asked.
  • I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear
    I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Despite being one who says F*** the Norm and who has created three characters now who are very successful yet defy the Guides and Status Quo immensely, I have to shoot this suggestion down.

    The reason being that this game is rather complex and an improperly spent Spirit Point or Stat Point here or there can REALLY haunt you later. When you want the stats to equip that next item, to have the damage you need, to have the HP you need, or the SP to buy the skills you desperately desire and are lacking because you screwed up so bad. Of course it would be a money maker in terms of Reset notes but I think it is just plain a bad call. Especially brand new players need some guidance so they can get a feel for how things work. Then they can experiment from there and find new builds if they are so adventurous.

    Also, not all players want to go outside the lines and many people WANT others to tell them what to do. May as well not put them outside their comfort zone. There is also no reason for them to stumble upon the true power of alternate builds if they do not have the personal fortitude to go find them on their own. I like Pwning you Mage Venos LOL! The last thing I want is an army of Foxes and Fist Masters stealing my Glory.

    now then based on the fact that you dont share half of this knowledge for people who wont have this means they have to find it for themselves or go look somewhere else rather then being a greedy person for knowledge you have it will mean more do have it as well and i do share my knowledge for those who would like to listen 1 being that there are a lot more people who do not do the norm being they have figured out that "the norm" isnt always the best way to do things and being they lily have tried telling people and get shot down because it isnt the "norm" and isnt accepted because of it stop being an **** to people who dont know rather then sharing the actual knowledge and preventing it and




    creating this problem you yourself admitted to==>The reason being that this game is rather complex and an improperly spent Spirit Point or Stat Point here or there can REALLY haunt you later. When you want the stats to equip that next item, to have the damage you need, to have the HP you need, or the SP to buy the skills you desperately desire and are lacking because you screwed up so bad. Of course it would be a money maker in terms of Reset notes but I think it is just plain a bad call. Especially brand new players need some guidance so they can get a feel for how things work. Then they can experiment from there and find new builds if they are so adventurous.

    and as it is you are right about this point as well being this to an extent other then the greed factor in it as well ===>Also, not all players want to go outside the lines and many people WANT others to tell them what to do. May as well not put them outside their comfort zone. There is also no reason for them to stumble upon the true power of alternate builds if they do not have the personal fortitude to go find them on their own. I like Pwning you Mage Venos LOL! The last thing I want is an army of Foxes and Fist Masters stealing my Glory.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]


    being that odds are most people dont know how to build things right and based on more then just a sterotype and your wording is more detrimental to this and flaming then anything to keep it the way it is rathe then fix it being what you should be doing rather then not doing if you were trying to help a situation being what this is as well
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    Dont be fooled by looks.
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    also wish they would fix the dam prob with my "join date" its way off>_>
  • QTKyuubi - Sanctuary
    QTKyuubi - Sanctuary Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I'm sorry i really don't see this happening,
    Should they close down the wiki and other forum sites too.
    People looking for knowledge will find what they seek it's called google b:laugh
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  • I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear
    I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I'm sorry i really don't see this happening,
    Should they close down the wiki and other forum sites too.
    People looking for knowledge will find what they seek it's called google b:laugh

    yes i agree that being why i updated it again and to why my friends idea i added rather then shooting it down again like you chose to he gave a good way to fix it so please do consider this as well rather then not thx altho did you look at all posted links and such being all implemented rather then just this one being ALL them the links i used being the ALL factor if not plsease do ^_^
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Dont be fooled by looks.
    Even beauty can kill.

    also wish they would fix the dam prob with my "join date" its way off>_>
  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    rewriting it to prevent forum trollers from trying to ruin a good way to improve a game

    No matter how you rewrite it it would still be a bad idea not good so pointless.
    You should be IMPROVING your idea instead.
  • I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear
    I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    ilystah wrote: »
    No matter how you rewrite it it would still be a bad idea not good so pointless.
    You should be IMPROVING your idea instead.

    Tip 1. You don't even know how the comment was based.
    Tip 2. Don't Troll on a subject you don't understand because the lack of information you have makes it a waste of you time.
    Tip 3. If you wish to troll rather then be dumb like most.
    Then associate yourself more so as a noob troller being what you make yourself appear as how you did it.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Dont be fooled by looks.
    Even beauty can kill.

    also wish they would fix the dam prob with my "join date" its way off>_>
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I dont think its a good idea to shrink the available knowledge base for new players at all. The more knowledge is out there, the more informed choices a player can make. Some may choose to ignore conventional knowledge all together, some may choose to strictly abide by one guide or another, some may combine ideas garnered from several guides, and some may take just a few pointers as guidance.

    The more information one has at his or her disposal the better choices they can make for themselves. Censoring knowledge/ideas from community publication will only serve to yield a more ignorant group of new players.
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  • Mythsoul - Heavens Tear
    Mythsoul - Heavens Tear Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Lol, The pet tamer at it once more
    All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring.
  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Tip 1. You don't even know how the comment was based.
    Tip 2. Don't Troll on a subject you don't understand because the lack of information you have makes it a waste of you time.
    Tip 3. If you wish to troll rather then be dumb like most.
    Then associate yourself more so as a noob troller being what you make yourself appear as how you did it.

    I did read both version of your suggestion. I even commented on the first one. The second one is better than the first one but still have the same problem as the first one so I feel unnecessary to post another comment. It is a bad idea, as many other replier already said. You should be improving it or scrap it, rewrite it will help make it easier to read, does not make it better.