Solo (or maybe with a friend) aoe

Posts: 23 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Wizard
HI together,
is there any possibility to solo aoe, or maybe with the help of a cleric or something like that

if there is then on what lvl, with which mobs and what skill to use

my only aoes no are ph
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  • Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Well...I mean it is possible to solo AOE, but for a wizard, it would probably be difficult, looking at the aoe skills we have.
    First of all, you'd need to kite to survive a mob as a wizard (Can't say about LA wizzies - only had experience as arcane), meaning that DB is out of question (Need a zhen squad to utilise this).
    Emberstorm isn't efficient, seeing as the time it takes to generate dmg would get you killed...
    Hailstorm is okay, but...the damage doesn't lend itself to killing on its own.

    Then there's our ults, which you can't spam since it takes sparks.
  • Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    If you have decent armor, even arcane wizards can tank just fine if you use potions or maybe apothecaries.

    If you have a good weapon this works even better, because monsters will only last a few seconds.



    I suppose the answer to the question is what are you AOE'ing?
    For physical mobs -- Idk about you, but even leg. arcane armors don't have great pdef, so only LA wizzies might have a chance.
    For magical mobs -- I guess, but it's hard to group them into a close enough spot so as to AOE all of them at once, and even if you kite them, I've noticed that they spread apart when they reach you.

    Continuing onto the physical mob issue, again, wizzies don't have spammable or efficient aoe's (except DB, which is only for zhening).
    And the time it takes for emberstorm to channel enough power is enough to get you killed - reiterating this.

    Clerics have spam heals, and razor feathers in between.
    BM's have efficient aoe's and tanking abilities, and so do barbs.
    Veno's have their pet tank.

    All of these the wizards do not have.

    Edit: Answering the second part of his question - yes, with the help of a cleric, another wiz, and maybe another archer, with a barb to pull, you can aoe. It's called zhening.
  • Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    With ToP and Jiaozi I can easily stay alive against 4-5 mobs at a time when using DB.
    I'm arcane.
    Mostly do this with magic metal mobs.
    If you have high DB, the spreading doesn't matter, cos you have a bigger range than them.

    This is only when I am questing usually, otherwise, yeah.. Zhen is the way to go.
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  • Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    hi,
    ty guys for all the answers
    well you see my lvl now, so are there any melee mobs i could easily aoe on ( with the help of a cleric)
    and how should i do
    i have ToP Pots are possible but not good, charm is to expensive
    i also have those lifepowder which regenerate 100 life per second over 10 min
    so which skills should i use??
    and yeah which mobs on which lvl to take?
    are also magic mobs good to aoe ??
    because i have like 9,8k ressi if buffed and with special armor now
    well and how to get the magic mobs together (if there is a possibilty)??

    Is a normal TT-weapon, and complete 70 (maybe some 3 star or TT things) enough?? or do i need refined things


    Ty alot
    Fire
  • Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I'm not sure how efficient it is, but you can aoe grind on melee mobs fairly effectively with a cleric along. You'll want Black Ice Dragon Strike, they need Tempest. You both need 2 sparks ready.


    The cleric can fly past a whole bunch of mobs, casting iron heart every 6-8 seconds to hold aggro. Then they bring the group back towards you. You cast Ice Dragon, slowing the mobs, and start to run away. The cleric casts Tempest, taking aggro back and slowing the mobs again. If the mobs aren't dead or almost dead by now, pick a different type to try this on. If they're almost dead, the cleric can finish them off with Razor Feathers. Don't use Hailstorm unless they have a super tiny sliver of hp left--freezing half the mobs in place while the other half move makes it much harder to finish them all off.

    With a little practice it's easy, and you can kill huge groups of mobs all at once.
  • Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I'm not sure how efficient it is, but you can aoe grind on melee mobs fairly effectively with a cleric along. You'll want Black Ice Dragon Strike, they need Tempest. You both need 2 sparks ready.


    The cleric can fly past a whole bunch of mobs, casting iron heart every 6-8 seconds to hold aggro. Then they bring the group back towards you. You cast Ice Dragon, slowing the mobs, and start to run away. The cleric casts Tempest, taking aggro back and slowing the mobs again. If the mobs aren't dead or almost dead by now, pick a different type to try this on. If they're almost dead, the cleric can finish them off with Razor Feathers. Don't use Hailstorm unless they have a super tiny sliver of hp left--freezing half the mobs in place while the other half move makes it much harder to finish them all off.

    With a little practice it's easy, and you can kill huge groups of mobs all at once.

    O.o me like Calliope's idea xD must try as soon as I get BIDS. (>.<) b:laugh
    also any suggestions on which monsters to try this on? O.o' level 6X range would be fine ^.^'
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  • Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    At level 59 (or low 60s) you might need to use Blade Tempest, for the increased damage. But then you'd need to find pretty slow mobs/use some speed boosts (don't outrun them and reset aggro though).

    The real advantage of the technique is that no one ever gets hit, so you can kill 40 mobs as easily as 20. I could never find a spot where there were enough mobs to be worth it, but I only started looking in my late 8x. If you can find a good spot (lots and lots and lots of mobs), it should pay off nicely.
  • Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I like Calliope's idea.
    Adding a suggestion: you might want to do this with a partner of the other gender for fast free chi in between (not being sexist! b:shocked).

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