Thanks for pushing up Gold prices... AGAIN
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If any other business in the world holds a sale, people rejoice. Here people just QQ...
Yes I would like one of the new flying mounts... but I am not going to charge zen to get one. Nor will I be paying the ridiculous gold prices at the AH. The new mounts are a permanent addition, as has been stated elsewhere, so I'm happy to wait until the price in game drops to a reasonable amount. If more people were patient, the gold prices wouldn't be what they are...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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No offense, but it's funny how everyone suggests that people spend their real life money to help the rest of the players get CS items cheaper then immediately follow it with something like "well I would myself, but.......<insert excuse>"
I'm calling BS here. I'll assume you're the kind that sits there and says "Sell me Gold Charm for 400k. Please. Why not. I want a charm. Sell to me for 400k. It's all I have......" on a server where it goes cheapest at 500k-550k. CS players spend RL money for their own enjoyment. Not for other random strangers. Sorry to say it, but that's how the world works. If you feel so strongly about it by all means go out and start buying cars and selling them far below the market value. I'm in the market for a new ride and I'd like to have your efforts subsidize my purchase.
Seriously. It's not up to the players to bring down the price of gold. They are following economic trends set in place long before any of us were even born. It's up to the game devs and GMs to monitor the game and make sure it's healthy.0 -
I'd definitely be one of those ruining your solution:Amehlea - Sanctuary wrote: »True and yahh i sudgest they buy Zen not Ah Gold there is a problem greedy bugs who are willing to even make a solution fail and runin the game for the rest so realy GMS the final solutions is to make a cap of the sells and the number you can sell Oh and dont forget to Make TW reset
When things I want to buy are cheap enough, I buy them.
When things I want to sell are valueable enough, I sell them.
That simple formula ruins your solution, because it means I'm going to be competing with you for the best prices.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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But PWI sets the prices on both in-game items and cash-shop items, which in turn affects supply and demand.AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear wrote: »Players set the coin price for gold.(supply and demand)
PWI sets the $ price for gold. ($1 = 1 gold) it hasn't changed. (well except for sales b:chuckle)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »But PWI sets the prices on both in-game items and cash-shop items, which in turn affects supply and demand.
True. But this shouldn't overall effect the market to much. Just a small margin of variance should occur because of this, unless its a sale or discount. ( this of course causes more demand a lot more.)
It seems that a newer a server or what type a server it is affects Gold Prices too.
Things like the 1mil box affects Gold prices. Players aren't going to spend 200k to break even. But they might spend 800k to gain 200k. (which would be 160k per piece of gold not including transaction fee) In my opinion gold will not drop much below 160k because of these boxes. And they will go as high as people are willing to pay because of sales. Most people already know this though. And I am rambling now...so I will stop..b:chuckleRetired
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Of course not. No player will buy hp/mp pots while those strong potions are around. No player will craft beautiful shards by buying shabby shards at the merchant. With the chest of coins being overstocked by players, as soon as gold will look like stabilizing, those players will stack to cash in the chests and re-raise the gold price anyway.Hallepaurion - Dreamweaver wrote: »Rediculous... wasn't bringing in Jolly meant to leech the market of money so that Gold was brought back down to a manageable trade?0 -
_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »(...)everyone wants the new item...that much is obvious....
I don't, I want the old one that's now $5 cheaper. b:victory Yay for slightly easier to obtain Daevas!0 -
Yes. How dare PWI try to actually sell stuff and make money. They should spend more time trying to figure out how to make the game easier for people who just play for free.0
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Opaline - Dreamweaver wrote: »Yes. How dare PWI try to actually sell stuff and make money. They should spend more time trying to figure out how to make the game easier for people who just play for free.
FINALLY! At least SOMEBODY gets it!!
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Rurik_Niall - Dreamweaver wrote: »I don't, I want the old one that's now $5 cheaper. b:victory Yay for slightly easier to obtain Daevas!
Lol, gold is now twice as much, so what you're paying is actually much more despite the $5 cheaper face value. This still applies if you spend real money, as you can just sell the gold for 2x value coins.0 -
I joined when it was already over 240k on Dreamweaver, so that's not precisely true. Albeit I haven't logged on yet today, but I'm sure if the price of gold on Dreamweaver were at 480k there'd be about a hundred boards crying about it. b:laugh0
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Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »Lol, gold is now twice as much, so what you're paying is actually much more despite the $5 cheaper face value. This still applies if you spend real money, as you can just sell the gold for 2x value coins.
Its 5$ cheaper. You're not paying more.....b:shockedRetired
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Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »FINALLY! At least SOMEBODY gets it!!
b:victory
The problem are not the people that play for free. The problem are the people that play the game for free and suck at it, and still expect to have the same stuff that others have.
This is like all the people that say the 1m boxes means that gold prices would have to be at 200k to break even, than wonder how come they end up with less money after they open the box (they start with 1million in bank, buy gold at 200k, get hammer, open boxes. amd end up with 980k coins...) They forgot to take into account the costs...... 200k-AH fee-(any costs you have aquiring the box) is the break even point, not just 200k.......Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »Lol, gold is now twice as much, so what you're paying is actually much more despite the $5 cheaper face value. This still applies if you spend real money, as you can just sell the gold for 2x value coins.
Gold price is irrelevant, the fact is the items are now cheaper.
You have 2 parallel markets.
1. The official company controlled one, where you buy items for gold, at fix prices. There is no negotiations here.
2. The blackmarket, where players buy gold or cash shop items from other players for what they think they are worth. This market is controlled by the buyers and the sellers, and all prices are negotiable.
The only reason there is even gold trading in game is because PW was nice enough to give players that do not want to spend any RL money the chance to get ALL the items than cash players can get access to.
Obviously, you will have to work hard for that money, just like the person that is spending the RL money had to work to get their money, you just happen to have to do it in-game while they are doing it at work.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
Also, by doing this, they reduce the amount of items on the server that can be exclusively obtained with gold.IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »The problem are not the people that play for free. The problem are the people that play the game for free and suck at it, and still expect to have the same stuff that others have.
This is like all the people that say the 1m boxes means that gold prices would have to be at 200k to break even, than wonder how come they end up with less money after they open the box (they start with 1million in bank, buy gold at 200k, get hammer, open boxes. amd end up with 980k coins...) They forgot to take into account the costs...... 200k-AH fee-(any costs you have aquiring the box) is the break even point, not just 200k.......
Instead of seeing 5 platinum charm for sell in a shop, there will be 7 less chest of coins on the server.0 -
AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear wrote: »Its 5$ cheaper. You're not paying more.....b:shocked
Of course you are. Just look in AH. People selling old mounts there at the same old coin exchange rate. Trust me, if you brought the gold, change it to coins and buy mounts from AH, it's cheaper.b:chuckle
A lot of people don't seems to get it for some reason. Cashshop items are now more expensive, not less.0 -
Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »Of course you are. Just look in AH. People selling old mounts there at the same old coin exchange rate. Trust me, if you brought the gold, change it to coins and buy mounts from AH, it's cheaper.b:chuckle
A lot of people don't seems to get it for some reason. Cashshop items are now more expensive, not less.
Okay. Let's compare. You can buy a mount at current Gold Prices for 30 Gold...or the same mount at current Gold Prices for 25 Gold.
Old Gold Prices don't come into play...AT ALL...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »Okay. Let's compare. You can buy a mount at current Gold Prices for 30 Gold...or the same mount at current Gold Prices for 25 Gold.
Old Gold Prices don't come into play...AT ALL...
It would be true if coins doesn't exist, but they do. There are lots of the old 30 gold mounts in AH for 3 mil or below. That's 15 gold compared to 25 gold, which is more? Very simple math. You spend more by buying those "discounted" old mounts in cashshop.
Anyway, how about stocking up on those mounts? They're on sale!b:chuckle0 -
Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »It would be true if coins doesn't exist, but they do. There are lots of the old 30 gold mounts in AH for 3 mil or below. That's 15 gold compared to 25 gold, which is more? Very simple math. You spend more by buying those "discounted" old mounts in cashshop.
Anyway, how about stocking up on those mounts? They're on sale!b:chuckle
Two things. One, coins DON'T exist. They're just data, a bunch of 1's and 0's...maybe a few 2's...
Second...I have my AWESOME-SAUCE GOURD OF AWESOME-SAUCENESS! I don't need any other flying mount.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »Two things. One, coins DON'T exist. They're just data, a bunch of 1's and 0's...maybe a few 2's...
Second...I have my AWESOME-SAUCE GOURD OF AWESOME-SAUCENESS! I don't need any other flying mount.
That doesn't help all the noobs being tricked by this fake sale.b:chuckle0 -
Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »It would be true if coins doesn't exist, but they do. There are lots of the old 30 gold mounts in AH for 3 mil or below. That's 15 gold compared to 25 gold, which is more? Very simple math. You spend more by buying those "discounted" old mounts in cashshop.
Anyway, how about stocking up on those mounts? They're on sale!b:chuckle
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Just let the noobs be happy.
Ignorace is bliss, yes?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »That doesn't help all the noobs being tricked by this fake sale.b:chuckle
It is a great sale if you charge your gold.
Gold = official currency, non-negotiable
Coins = blackmarket currency (or in the old days, you would had called them rubbles..... useless for anything but to buy local stuff, or to buy the official currency at buyer negotiated prices)Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
I wouldn't consider it a sale in anything other than name. It's a permanent price reduction, so if people are rushing to jump on some mounts then they didn't read the news post. Personally I don't need another mount, so this sale has no real effect on me.
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Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »Two things. One, coins DON'T exist. They're just data, a bunch of 1's and 0's...maybe a few 2's...
Second...I have my AWESOME-SAUCE GOURD OF AWESOME-SAUCENESS! I don't need any other flying mount.
RL money doesn't exist either.
All of that money you supposedly have saved up in a bank somewhere?
It's all just 1's and 0's. b:shocked0 -
eatwithspoons wrote: »I wouldn't consider it a sale in anything other than name. It's a permanent price reduction, so if people are rushing to jump on some mounts then they didn't read the news post. Personally I don't need another mount, so this sale has no real effect on me.
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You're a GM, you can just have whatever mount you...
...oh.
EYE C WUT U DEED THAR.
EDIT: @Opaline -- OH, SHI--The Matrix is real!!! b:shedtear[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...0 -
Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »ಠ_ಠೊ
You're a GM, you can just have whatever mount you...
...oh.
EYE C WUT U DEED THAR.
EDIT: @Opaline -- OH, SHI--The Matrix is real!!! b:shedtear
I'm talking about my real character, I don't get GM stuffs on that! b:cry
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Huh, I did not know GM's had separate characters for when they're off duty and when they're on the job. Learn something new every day. b:victory0
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Yeah, it's better that way because the game actually presents a challenge. If you walked around all the time in GM mode the game is boring.
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eatwithspoons wrote: »I'm talking about my real character, I don't get GM stuffs on that! b:cry
And that is why he named his character eatwithfingers..... cannot get spoons on it.....Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0
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