The Battle Cleric build by Ahira

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  • Elrond - Heavens Tear
    Elrond - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    i went all funky and tried to make a end game version of this build. (its a wizard because i wanted to play around with the wizard buff, so turn it off.)

    So here it is... a HA/Robe build...
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=5c00f0626ac18ed4

    On a interesting side note this build has better defenses then a light armor build, and comparable physical defense to a vit build.

    playing around with end game builds has shown me that I'm going to go robes. Not because its better, but because if i want damage i can go pure, and if i want defense i can go vit. All it will take is a few re-stat scrolls.

    PS. the tome has the stats of the event cloak added onto it, event cloaks are not in the calculator.

    PPS. if you want to compare to vit:
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=8e67cff28ff5b92e - you can restate to magic easly

    Or light: http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=51897005f28db956 - you will have to make the shards are refines the same on this one.
  • The_Champion - Sanctuary
    The_Champion - Sanctuary Posts: 988 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I still say bowbarian is the ultimate unique buildb:victory
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    Sounds about right
  • Elrond - Heavens Tear
    Elrond - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    try making a robe barb with full vit and god stones, check out there HP and defense. then take it into a TW and pull a cat ^_^

    Use a nooob weapon
  • Black_lce - Heavens Tear
    Black_lce - Heavens Tear Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    i vote that theres nothing better than the stickmaster ^^
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I took a long time to read the guide, i found it a lot interesting. I'm actually LA and until 90 i will not try out anything of all this, but i think it's really valuable and undoubtely is something new.

    Only thing you should fix on the guide is prolly the lack of clarity (that effectively, FAC guide has).

    Overall, i don't understand why an Ancient guide like FAC one is sticked while this is not b:surrender
  • Ahira - Lost City
    Ahira - Lost City Posts: 791 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    i went all funky and tried to make a end game version of this build. (its a wizard because i wanted to play around with the wizard buff, so turn it off.)

    So here it is... a HA/Robe build...
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=5c00f0626ac18ed4

    On a interesting side note this build has better defenses then a light armor build, and comparable physical defense to a vit build.

    playing around with end game builds has shown me that I'm going to go robes. Not because its better, but because if i want damage i can go pure, and if i want defense i can go vit. All it will take is a few re-stat scrolls.

    PS. the tome has the stats of the event cloak added onto it, event cloaks are not in the calculator.

    PPS. if you want to compare to vit:
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=8e67cff28ff5b92e - you can restate to magic easly

    Or light: http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=51897005f28db956 - you will have to make the shards are refines the same on this one.


    I do like your HA-Arcane build example- its well put together! ^_^
    It does tho suffer from one of your complaints of mixed-builds, that your cant restat to pure or full vit. On your build example I think you have just several points you can switch between vit and mag. So essentially it ends up being as restrictive as a LA build- perhaps even more so.

    I'm glad you mentioned the veno HA build guide because this is a good opportunity to differentiate the builds.

    Below is your build slightly modified (-I dont think your event tomb/cloak combo had the right bonus total)
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=853bdef7ecd47743

    This would be the equivalent Battle Cleric build
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=5eae70e687891dca

    (The HP is a constant). Quite similar levels of resistances, with the Battle cleric build having a measurably higher magic attack. But never mind that! The important thing to note in the above examples is the Vit/Magic points. For the Battle cleric you have ~100+ points which you can shift to vit or mag depending on your preference as well as the additional flexibility of +/- HA when required, to adjust your defensive attributes for any given situation. And yes this flexibility will come at a cost! =_=

    Just as a comparison, with a standard full arcane build you will probably have ~twice as many points to distribute between vit and magic. But realistically the majority of clerics will always keep some level of vit so the difference in point flexibility is not quite as large as you would imagine.

    A good thing to remember when talking about arcane/LA/HA-Arc mix equipment sets is that the overall attributes of such sets does invariably tend to converge at end game (high cash-shoppingb:spit) levels.
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  • Ahira - Lost City
    Ahira - Lost City Posts: 791 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I took a long time to read the guide, i found it a lot interesting. I'm actually LA and until 90 i will not try out anything of all this, but i think it's really valuable and undoubtely is something new.

    Only thing you should fix on the guide is prolly the lack of clarity (that effectively, FAC guide has).

    Overall, i don't understand why an Ancient guide like FAC one is sticked while this is not b:surrender

    Thank you! ^^

    Yeh the clarity issue is quite unfortunate. The FAC build is pretty simple so its easy to detail as opposed to this one which does need several steps that cant really be short cut, to explain it fully. I tried to do a more streamlined one but it just made it more difficult to understand. b:infuriated

    My apologies for that. =_=
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  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Thank you! ^^

    Yeh the clarity issue is quite unfortunate. The FAC build is pretty simple so its easy to detail as opposed to this one which does need several steps that cant really be short cut, to explain it fully. I tried to do a more streamlined one but it just made it more difficult to understand. b:infuriated

    My apologies for that. =_=

    Well, it's right that FAC guide has to exprime simpler concepts, so it is obvious that is also more clear to read.

    Is also true that this Battle Cleric is not thing for newbies, and i think that experienced players can simply understand it all ;)
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Up for stick b:victory