Suggestion For Same Sex Marriages
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Okay, so lately my girlfriend and I have joined PW and we really enjoy playing the game together, and we find it to be possibly the best mmorpg we have played yet, and trust me we have played A LOT! Anyways, there is really no complaint I have for this rpg except that it only allows heterosexual marriages which I do not think is very fair for those that are homosexual. My girlfriend and I are both bisexual, and we would love to get married in PW, but we cannot because the game does not allow it. This is something that has bothered us for quite some time, and I thought it would be a good idea to post it here and see what others would think about adding homosexual marriages into the game.
In conclusion, I would like to hear what you all have to say about this, and all of your opinions on this. I really think it would make the game much more fun for some people, and it would definately stir it towards being one of the most unique and interesting games on the net.
So with that said, what do you all think?
In conclusion, I would like to hear what you all have to say about this, and all of your opinions on this. I really think it would make the game much more fun for some people, and it would definately stir it towards being one of the most unique and interesting games on the net.
So with that said, what do you all think?
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It is not going to happen for a multitute of reasons, including the fact that only about half a dozen countries in the world allow it, and even in the US only 4 states allow it (out of 50).Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0
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The bottom line is we play MMOs as an escape from real life. We should not try to bring real life controversies into the MMO, it would bring more drama than it would be worth.
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I think that people should have the right to choose who they want to marry, and I don't understand why ****/**** couples aren't allowed to spend their lives with the people they want.I used to wonder why I would have these scary dreams every month. About the wolf, who kept running through town. And as I wondered, I also thought about how I couldn't remember having those dreams before being bitten by this very big dog...
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Shredclaw - Sanctuary wrote: »I think that people should have the right to choose who they want to marry, and I don't understand why ****/**** couples aren't allowed to spend their lives with the people they want.
Because MMOs should not be politcal/moral arenas either. If you want to change the world, get involved with your local community groups.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »It is not going to happen for a multitute of reasons, including the fact that only about half a dozen countries in the world allow it, and even in the US only 4 states allow it (out of 50).eatwithspoons wrote: »The bottom line is we play MMOs as an escape from real life. We should not try to bring real life controversies into the MMO, it would bring more drama than it would be worth.IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »Because MMOs should not be politcal/moral arenas either. If you want to change the world, get involved with your local community groups.
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Lol, at all the reasons reds posted could be reasons for "same-sex" marriages in-game.
it IS just an MMO so why would it matter if two male chars or two female chars get married?
Yes, we use this game to escape "real life" so why would the legalization of **** marriage in "real life" in certain areas have any effect in allowing it in a game that we use to "escape" "real life"
And MMOs arent a political/moral arena, so why cant a male char marry a male char? shouldnt matter right? If you dont like it then you shouldnt take it to an MMO you should "get involved in your local comminuty groups" xD
Come on guys, spot your own oxymorons please LOL
not ONE of you mentioned a thing about the development side, how it MIGHT be difficult from a devs perspective to have to tweak anything. so fail on that aspect
Its just funny that you are all using reasons against it that can be used as reasons for it just as easily and still be just as valid.
But on the same token, the people saying it should be allowed are reaching a bit far.
Its an MMO, having to guys or two girls marry in an mmo has nothing to do with people "spending their lives together"
This is a game, simple as that, there is no valid reason two chars cannot get "married". I mean come on, how many of you female venos are really females? LOL. The gender we give to our characters can be as made up as the Hexweb or Dodopod we are attacking -.-. So there is no reason why any two chars cant marry in game, exept for that the devs just dont want them to, whether it be for actual developing issues or because...this game is developed in an area that can be considered "more then slightly conservative"
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I am also bisexual and dating another girl who I think would enjoy this game and love the idea of getting married. I already have a female character and I don't want to force her to play a male character just so we can have a wedding, it seems rather unfair and unrealistic.
I think same-sex marriage should be allowed not just to please the homosexuals who have been suggesting this for a while now, but there are also male and female players who play characters that aren't the same gender as them, who's to say that the two "****" Untamed you saw running around weren't a male and female, or two females, or maybe they were two males. You just don't know about these things.
Besides, online games are supposed to be about free choice. And if people are really going to be THAT offended by it then there should be an option to make all same-sex embracing and couples getting married not show up or something. Or perhaps have a server were that stuff is allowed and have a note that pops up when you log into that server telling you about same-sex stuff happens on the server.
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Selli - Lost City wrote: »I am also bisexual and dating another girl who I think would enjoy this game and love the idea of getting married. I already have a female character and I don't want to force her to play a male character just so we can have a wedding, it seems rather unfair and unrealistic.
I think same-sex marriage should be allowed not just to please the homosexuals who have been suggesting this for a while now, but there are also male and female players who play characters that aren't the same gender as them, who's to say that the two "****" Untamed you saw running around weren't a male and female, or two females, or maybe they were two males. You just don't know about these things.
Besides, online games are supposed to be about free choice. And if people are really going to be THAT offended by it then there should be an option to make all same-sex embracing and couples getting married not show up or something. Or perhaps have a server were that stuff is allowed and have a note that pops up when you log into that server telling you about same-sex stuff happens on the server.
My two cents.
Join your local community group to lobby for those causes. For a company to "promote" what you are suggesting, they would have to be very careful they were not breaking any laws first. Than you have the fact that only 4 states in the US even make it legal to have same sex marriages, and only 5 countries in Europe. So I think PWE is pretty much going with the what society accepts. Also note that PWE is located in California.... where same-sex marriages are NOT legal.
You are asking for them to change the game, than suggest that nothign shows up when you get married.. wouldn't that make it pointless? the all purpose to get married in-game is to have your partners name over your head...... You can have a "wedding" ceremony with your friends in-game, and since you were suggesting nothing to show up over the characters head, there would be no difference, right?
Regarding your last suggestion for a special server... Who is going to pay for it? Are you offering to pay all the bandwith and maintenance costs associated with a special purpose new server?Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
In my humble opinion, just as the others say, this type of business has to appeal to major part of the society to be able to succeed in having lots of players. I would think that some parents of the kids (lots of teenagers play this game as you know) that play this game will not allow them to play the game anymore if the homosexual issue or any socio-political issues enter the game. And many of those parents pay for their kids' gold. The company would lose many paying customers then...
I am just saying that to some of us this issue has absolutely no impact at all, but to many, it just does. Once a MMO accepts such a stance, they will automatically enter the political stance in the society, and I am sure many businesses try to avoid that.
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I don't wanna hear about your real-life.
I don't wanna hear about all your "moral" arguments for either side.
I don't wanna hear about how "same sex marriages are wrong", or how "PWI is oppressing same sex marriages".
If it's not in the Chinese Version of PW, it's not comin' here.
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I totally vote for this idea, whenever someone mentions it.
If at least you could carry same sex character. =_= Ya know..and kiss- xDD0 -
cant you just spend youre time togheter now? Do you seriously wait for the game devs to make it OK? b:puzzled Why cant you be **** now with your partner?
All your friends are going to know you're ****.
Everyone in your faction is going to know youre ****.
so everyone that you interact with is going to know, why would you want a bunch of strangers who dont matter to know?
If you are the type of person that feels like a woman trapped in a mans body, why not just play a woman. Or if you feel like a man trapped in a womans body, why not just play a man? You can have your wedding this way. In game you can be who you feel inside, you are not limited by how you were born.
Also keep in mind only a very small percentage of people are homosexual, PWE is going to cater to the masses. As well they should as a business. Also this game has an Chinese culturistic background, and I dont think that homosexul marrige was, or is allowed in Chinese culture.
I feel this issue is just so people can say "look at me I am ****!" you can do that already in game infact many already do. ITS NOT LIKE REAL LIFE where opportunites are going to be cancelled from you. nobody is going to keep you from progressing at all. Other than a weadding, you have the EXACT SAME abilities and opportunities in this game as straight people. And thats ONLY if you choose to play as the same sex.
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That is why Spoons is "tha boss"Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
Whyyyyyyy do people keep talking about the legality of it? IT IS A GAME PEOPLE. I dont think its legal to **** at someone with a sword either but they allow that. I mean come on. It is quite annoying... The "law" as far as online gaming is concerned has no impact in any way on who can get "married" or about same sex "marriages." On Asda Story you can have "soul mates" with the same sex? Are they breaking the law?!?! Oh wait no...because its not called marriage...
Give me a break. The law in any state, province, country, territory, commonwealth, etc. Is in no way connected to why people cannot get e-married in this game, so using that argument is just reallyy stupid.
As i said earlier. In a GAME where you can control rock monsters, shoot out flaming cards, **** at people with a glowing sword, and fly why cant you marry someone of the same sex? and HOW can you claim that it is because it isnt legal in California... Its just ridiculous and yes i am repeating myself and being redundant because thats just how dumb that argument is!
The only reason it isnt happening is because the devs dont want it to, whether it be because they think e-**** marriage is wrong or because theyt believe that if it was allowed it would cause to much drama and QQ from nub gamers who think it would be "wrong", or because they see no point in it because you can always just be a diff gender... seeing as well... You arent really that person that runs around in that make believe world you know? And getting married in this game is in no way a legal binding marriage in your location...you know? <---another reason why arguing that **** marriage isnt legal is just stupid
Im ****, i think it would be cool beans to marry another guy in the game, but i dont care if i cant, hell the only reason most people do it is to get stuff? AND if i had a boyfriend...I would be doing alot more with him and to him then getting e-married on an MMO LOL
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thats not even normalalot of people ask me am i affraid of death...
hell yea im affraid of death
i dont wanna die yet
alot of people think that i worship the devil..
that i do all types of **** ****
look i cant change the way i think..and i cant change the way i am
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And point, proven xD.
Come on people!! IT IS NOT NORMAL TO HAVE TWO FAKE SAME-SEX CHARACTERS JOIN INTO A NON-LEGAL BINDING FAKE WEDDING.
think of the fake non-existent children! and think of what it would do the the fake non-existent families!! It would be the end of the fake non-existent family as we know it D=.
But yeah i think this thread has run its course and will just start to loop back, So im done with it.
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the reason this isn't allowed is more or less because Homosexuality is wrong and immoral.
its like asking to put **** on the game.
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Theavenger - Sanctuary wrote: »the reason this isn't allowed is more or less because Homosexuality is wrong and immoral.
its like asking to put **** on the game.
Pornography is immoral, and so is homosexuality.
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The two previous posts clearly show why same-sex marriage will never be put in the game. There is no way for people to agree with it, therefore it is safer for a company to just follow what the majority of the people around take as acceptable.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0
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Okay, so lately my girlfriend and I have joined PW and we really enjoy playing the game together, and we find it to be possibly the best mmorpg we have played yet, and trust me we have played A LOT! Anyways, there is really no complaint I have for this rpg except that it only allows heterosexual marriages which I do not think is very fair for those that are homosexual. My girlfriend and I are both bisexual, and we would love to get married in PW, but we cannot because the game does not allow it. This is something that has bothered us for quite some time, and I thought it would be a good idea to post it here and see what others would think about adding homosexual marriages into the game.
In conclusion, I would like to hear what you all have to say about this, and all of your opinions on this. I really think it would make the game much more fun for some people, and it would definately stir it towards being one of the most unique and interesting games on the net.
So with that said, what do you all think?
ewww its a ****
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Thank you all for taking the time to post in this thread, I really do appreciate it. I also do respect everyone's opinions on the matter, and either way the game is still fun for me, I was only putting this up for a suggestion. Anyways, thank you all for your time! ^^Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver wrote: »ewww its a ****
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I have but one comment for this: being sexist does not mean you do not like homosexuals, it means that you believe the opposite sex is inferior to your sex, just letting you know. The correct term for disliking homosexuals is, "homophobia."0 -
If beastiality is allowed (untamed marriges), homosexuality should be to, IMO.
That aside, it won't ever happen. Chinese devs, people trying to argue it with the real world, homophobia, religion, etc.0 -
Like Spoony said it's just a game. Take your same sex marriage agenda else where please.0
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They better not have same sex marriage. If they do, then I quit playing this game. Both in real life, in games, anywhere, and everywhere, **** marriage needs to get banned. They better not have it, or I quit playing this game.0
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Well it seems that not much can be put into this thread anymore, but I guess I can state my opinion too since the servers are down and I'm completely bored outta my mind.
I'm a girl who plays a guy in game.
Yes I'm one of the few girls who don't play their actual gender. I choose to play a guy mainly because my character is a bm and I really don't like the way girl bms look, but I also choose to play a guy character because then I have an option to marry either a male or a female that I like if one of them came around. I guess it just goes to say that if you seriously want to get married in game then have you or your significant other play a male and the other a female then you two can live happily every after in your Perfect World and nobody would have to know unless you told them.
Now onto the question about allowing homosexual marriage in game.
No, I actually think it wouldn't be good. I'm only saying this because like many people have pointed out, there are a lot of other people out there that hate homosexuality and if they saw this in the game they would quit and PWI would loose a lot of good players and paying customers. I have no problem with it in real life, but it shouldn't be dragged into a game. Some people would be outraged if they saw, "Betty and Susie are now married, let us wish them a happy marriage." (Random names used) I'm not trying to put your case down really, I'm just stating facts.
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eatwithspoons wrote: »The bottom line is we play MMOs as an escape from real life. We should not try to bring real life controversies into the MMO, it would bring more drama than it would be worth.
As you say, "MMOs are an escape from real life" Meaning we can do in them what we would not be able to do in real life. ilegal things like mass murder and hi-jacking cars etc. So if same sex marriges were introduced and caused controversies. Bottom line is "It's just a game, get over it. The whole point is to break the rules. There are no laws in games, they are like international waters. As for the drama it would bring, there's so much drama in PWI allready a little more isn't going make any difference. It might even might even get players something else to talk about other than the price of gold, what song is stuck in their head and spamtastic "My Faction can beat up your Faction" rubbish.You'll never see me running away, I will stay to be
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