k so i DID notice something bout the bless boxes

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  • Sharksfire - Heavens Tear
    Sharksfire - Heavens Tear Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Wow there really is no end to what some peeps will find to QQ bout is there?

    When suggested to just take the thing off then your reply was - well why should I have to when noone does? Q flipping Q. Hows this for a suggestion? Suck it up and learn how to play the game. Like totally OMG my herc isnt god anymore ish whatever shall i do?? b:cry

    Make friends with a barb in the game, they are fun furry friends that love it when you scratch em behind the ears. If you wanna solo everything, then play a single player game. (Hello Kitty Adventure Island sounds about right).

    Im so consistently amazed at what people find to complain about!

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  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Cough
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  • Sharksfire - Heavens Tear
    Sharksfire - Heavens Tear Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Ok I digress, didnt know [removed] was a MMO. b:surrender

    Um you might try giving ********* another go or uh duckhunt.

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  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Wow venos r funny.


    Ok so u want the blessing to work on pets too ok they can do that but then i want pets damage to be reduced on ? mark mobs like everyone else fair is fair
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  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Advertising other games is not allowed.b:chuckle

    But yeah, they should just make it so that blessings affect pets too. It affects all TTs that are tanked by hercs. Imagine how archers will pull aggro now. You're archer, you should know.
  • Ninnuam - Sanctuary
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Oh wow lmao.

    1) Buy a brain
    2) Use it
    3) ???
    4) Profit
    5) Yeah I skipped one

    Seriously, just lol thread.

    Edit: I'm actually in a nice mood so I'll try and help. Options:
    a) Unequip the thing. Yes, I know you're incapable of processing how and why despite the plethora of other posts, but it IS a very viable option.
    b) Aggro management. Hit, pause, hit, pause. Let the herc get another bash or two in before nuking the mobs. Archers can do it. Wizzies can do it. I hope to god venos can too.
    c) Change build. Yes, it's an option. Drop your +12 wep full mag build and go LA or put some points into vit. Stealing aggro is a thing of the past now. Bask in your low dd with pride coz you can now continue to solo TT while having the blessing equipped without the fear of ever stealing aggro from your beloved (tank, not a DD) pet.

    You're welcome.
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  • Tigriss - Heavens Tear
    Tigriss - Heavens Tear Posts: 760 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Vinat you should just make a thread in the suggestion forum. Don't pay any of the others any mind. From what I see it's mainly barbs jumping your ****. You know how easily anything about herc upsets barbs. To the other venos maybe Vin has more points in Mag then you. That +10 may be just enough to make it where there is no way to attack and not steal aggro. Not all Venos are built the same. I agree the +10 should also go on the pet. If there is a chance of only 1 attack causing the veno to steal aggro the pet needs buffed. All classes should benefit equally from this. If it is causing the veno to steal aggro its not benefitting the veno is it?

    Ok everyone is saying to take pauses from her attacking. Did you not read where she said it only takes 1 attack to steal aggro??
    Wait that was another person that said that.
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  • Ninnuam - Sanctuary
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Aggro management. Repeat after me: Aggro management. Learn it, use it, love it.
    Or just keep on failing. Come to think of it, preferably the latter. Gives the rest of us a reason to lol at. b:bye
    b:dirty
  • Tigriss - Heavens Tear
    Tigriss - Heavens Tear Posts: 760 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I take it spoon isn't online yet. This thread needs closed. All it is I people flaming someone with a real problem.
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  • Eyrnn - Sanctuary
    Eyrnn - Sanctuary Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I wonder why Archers then, haven't started QQing about having to go to the extent of taking off rings/not using blazing arrow/hitting at close range/taking of tomes etc etc for the sake of not stealing aggro on mobs... Going by the above stated logic, since everyone else can use such items, why can't we?

    Anyway, the bless boxes come as a new form of equipment and as far as I know, a Veno's equips doesn't affect her pet, even if one is heavily reliant on the other, so I don't see why this would be any different. Things change, people have to learn to adjust to them. As Ninnuam has said, learn aggro management =/
  • Ninnuam - Sanctuary
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Wrong. It's noobs who don't know how to play the game thinking they have a problem in the first place. Big difference.
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  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Wrong. It's noobs who don't know how to play the game thinking they have a problem in the first place. Big difference.

    *cough* QFT! *cough*
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    No its veno that want everything they should be happy their pets damage isnt reduced on ? bosses but like i said if the bless box should work on pets so should damage reduction
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  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Aggro management. Repeat after me: Aggro management. Learn it, use it, love it.
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Aggro management. Repeat after me: Aggro management. Learn it, use it, love it.
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Aggro management. Repeat after me: Aggro management. Learn it, use it, love it.
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Aggro management. Repeat after me: Aggro management. Learn it, use it, love it.

    Sometimes I stole aggro from my Herc before Bless Box came out. I didn't really care. I just kited the enemy for awhile till Herc got it back or just took the hits and continued killing the enemy.

    @OP, learn the quote. Seriously. It's nothing that big to complain about.
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  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No its veno that want everything they should be happy their pets damage isnt reduced on ? bosses but like i said if the bless box should work on pets so should damage reduction

    No. It's not all Venos. I strapped that thing on, and nearly crapped my pants. This was a very good introduction to the game, and only people that don't think outside the box are going to be QQing about it.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No its veno that want everything they should be happy their pets damage isnt reduced on ? bosses but like i said if the bless box should work on pets so should damage reduction

    I'm very happy with the Blessing. The Bless Box benefits us more than any other class. Please don't let one naive veno ruin it for the rest of us. b:thanks
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  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    At first, i too had some problem with having my pet keeping aggro.

    But after some trials, I found how to manage it.

    I rearraged the order of the spells in my macros, and now I don't have much more trouble than before.
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  • WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary Posts: 1,686 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Do we have awards on these forums? If so, then I nominate this thread for "QQ of the Year".

    Complaining that something that is completely free and completely optional makes you too powerful is just... well... it's just great. But as an extra added bonus the OP exposed the ID of one of their sock-puppets and then tried to cover it up, which is also win.

    What this thread confirms is that no matter what the devs or GMs do, there will always be a segment of the player base who will find a way to complain about it.
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  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    tweakz wrote: »
    I'm very happy with the Blessing. The Bless Box benefits us more than any other class. Please don't let one naive veno ruin it for the rest of us. b:thanks

    Lol, basically it hurts venos, archers, and wiz. Benefits barbs immensely, and bms to a lesser extent. Basically, it benefits those who tank and hurts those who pull aggro.

    Not sure if you've noticed, but mobs may be fewer in number now, but they also hit harder. If you unequipped the blessing, you're worse off then before the patch.
  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Do we have awards on these forums? If so, then I nominate this thread for "QQ of the Year".

    I second your nomination.
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  • Alizeee - Heavens Tear
    Alizeee - Heavens Tear Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    OMG.... lol b:chuckle it's so simple not to equip it if it throws you off. And besides, no reason it should apply to veno pet- nothing else does. I mean we work as one but we are not one. We level different, we have diff jobs, diff abilities, diff skills etc etc. Only thing I can think of I equip that affects my pet is blessing that keeps my pet from getting hungry. I personally would never even consider this to increase my pet attack and defense level in any way and if it bothered me I would not equip it and that would be the end of that - a simple solution.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Lol, basically it hurts venos, archers, and wiz.

    Archers pay per ammo use, Wiz's have a horrible time managing MP. Both can reduce their consumption of ammo/MP. Herc with reflect holds aggro better on most instance mobs already. All benefit from it especially venos who can now solo these faster and with easier MP management.
    Benefits barbs immensely, and bms to a lesser extent. Basically, it benefits those who tank and hurts those who pull aggro.

    They shouldn't pull aggro to begin with, that's just poor game playing.
    Not sure if you've noticed, but mobs may be fewer in number now, but they also hit harder. If you unequipped the blessing, you're worse off then before the patch.

    You can unequipp many other items to reduce atk and keep the defense. The higher atk helps Herc hold aggro more on melee mobs. The more frequent healing prevents Venos from stealing aggro as easy. Macros and spell use can be changed to accommodate just like before the patch. The argument is ridiculous.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Who needs this new thing to steal agro from a herc? I started doing that when I got my sage skills.b:laugh
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  • Sylvae - Sanctuary
    Sylvae - Sanctuary Posts: 1,018 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Even affecting the herc, from everything I've heard its aggro does not even come from its damage. So if the devs spent all that time reworking it, jack **** would still be accomplished for lazy aggro management.

    I had to have 3 weapons doing groups, to prevent myself from grabbing aggro when I did DD role during FBs/questing. Common sense, and easy enough. I didn't like purposefully gimping myself, but why aim to fail to prove 2 points? And one of those points would be to prove who's an idiot.

    And if you think this is bad, we had a jones blessing that did +30 Atk lvl and no Def at all. The barbs were crying like crazy about that, because it did not help them at all. The levels were low, so their damage was still ****. And as tank role, they didn't get to unleash as all of us dealing damage could. This was even more lop-sided than the current charm box, and the good venos were easily able to overcome the issue without battle pets.

    Plus if anyone has a reason to complain right now, it would be healers. Low levels who went for support role get nothing out of this charm unless they get healer aggro from a bad tank. Considering non of them are complaining, why is anyone else again?
  • RainbowVidel - Sanctuary
    RainbowVidel - Sanctuary Posts: 1,316 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Vinat - Sanctuary wrote: »
    they cause me to steal aggro from my herc

    Easy way to prevent this. Give pet 5-10 seconds to establish aggro control on target before you join in. Don't spam skills in combat and pause at least 2-3 seconds or so before casting your next attack.

    I used that blessing thing last night in FB69 and never stole aggro. No problems at all.
  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    not closing this yet. let me know if I should
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Who needs this new thing to steal agro from a herc? I started doing that when I got my sage skills.b:laugh
    lol i have way higher matk than you, and sage wood mastery.. and i know how to avoid stealing aggro without gimping my number of casts. that just means youre a bad veno :P.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    No, it just means I wasn't prepared for the spike increase of my damage. I knew the skills would get stronger I just wasn't expecting a boost of almost 3k per hit.
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    those blessing things make me do like 15k a hit in FBs ~_~
  • Megalomania - Harshlands
    Megalomania - Harshlands Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ROFL LMAO, a VENOMANCER is crying cause he deals TOO MUCH damage?

    get real.
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