We are overpowered. Prove Me Wrong

envymeplz
envymeplz Posts: 6 Arc User
edited August 2009 in Venomancer
We can solo 99% of bosses with herc, rule pvp with Nix and bleed drops robes in seconds. So prove to me we are not op.
Thank you and have a good dayb:bye
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  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    ...you are unable to properly use Awesome-Sauce-Face. Therefore, you are completely UnderPowered.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...
  • Chobsi - Heavens Tear
    Chobsi - Heavens Tear Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    ...you are unable to properly use Awesome-Sauce-Face. Therefore, you are completely UnderPowered.
    b:cryb:cryb:cry I think the venomancers just found out they aren't valuable
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Chobsi the only thing your good at is making your character look good, otherwise your fail"
    "Did that 95 BM just kill himself to your Herc? Mmm..Yep"
    "Oh that thing I thought was a statue, it 1 shot me, switch to your cleric please"
    "So that Hercules guy from the disney movie really aged well.."
    ~Chobsi b:cute
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Chobsi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:cryb:cryb:cry I think the venomancers just found out they aren't valuable

    b:sin

    ...and the truth floweth forth....
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...
  • Tiaque - Sanctuary
    Tiaque - Sanctuary Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Venomancers are not overpowered. They're just self-sufficient.
    "In the end, its not about LA vs robe - which is better? Its about knowing your character and how to play it." ~Blosque, Sanctuary

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    Contact me in-game if you're looking for a new home!

    Ayjia (5x veno), Celys (4x full support cleric), Eirel (3x claw blademaster)
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Tiaque - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Venomancers are not overpowered. They're just self-sufficient.

    HEY! No taking this thread seriously!! Make fun of the OP! DO IT NOW!!

    b:angry
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...
  • Chobsi - Heavens Tear
    Chobsi - Heavens Tear Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited July 2009

    ...and the truth floweth forth....
    Thank you for enlightening us all with your amazing knowledge. b:thanks
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Chobsi the only thing your good at is making your character look good, otherwise your fail"
    "Did that 95 BM just kill himself to your Herc? Mmm..Yep"
    "Oh that thing I thought was a statue, it 1 shot me, switch to your cleric please"
    "So that Hercules guy from the disney movie really aged well.."
    ~Chobsi b:cute
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Chobsi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Thank you for enlightening us all with your amazing knowledge. b:thanks

    *meditates and hovers* You are welcome, my child. b:cute
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...
  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    You know.... he's referring to himself in the multiple first person, because he is, in fact, the Original Poster. Said so himself. So, we can't prove him(them) wrong, because as he(they) said "prove to me we are not OP" And we can't...
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You know.... he's referring to himself in the multiple first person, because he is, in fact, the Original Poster. Said so himself. So, we can't prove him(them) wrong, because as he(they) said "prove to me we are not OP" And we can't...

    OH SHI--

    *brain-splosion*
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Donot Divide By Zero
  • Lolite - Heavens Tear
    Lolite - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Nix made me a slave for money b:sad -goes back to grind-
    Moved to WoW b:bye
  • Walterthewf - Harshlands
    Walterthewf - Harshlands Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    no **** there op
  • Chobsi - Heavens Tear
    Chobsi - Heavens Tear Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Originally Posted by Isala - Sanctuary View Post
    You know.... he's referring to himself in the multiple first person, because he is, in fact, the Original Poster. Said so himself. So, we can't prove him(them) wrong, because as he(they) said "prove to me we are not OP" And we can't...
    Yeah uhmm that confused me and made my head hurt b:faint
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Chobsi the only thing your good at is making your character look good, otherwise your fail"
    "Did that 95 BM just kill himself to your Herc? Mmm..Yep"
    "Oh that thing I thought was a statue, it 1 shot me, switch to your cleric please"
    "So that Hercules guy from the disney movie really aged well.."
    ~Chobsi b:cute
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Chobsi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Thank you for enlightening us all with your amazing knowledge. b:thanks

    i thought it was the true shall set you free..... However the OP really need to work on its Trolling skills... this is such a lame OP post that it does not even deserve an answer, even if it was funny when it says to prove he is not the op.....

    However, Spoons, sooner or later, will relocate this thread to where all QQ threads belong... The PVP boards.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Herc + jewel = fun
    I was early taught to work as well as play,
    My life has been one long, happy holiday;
    Full of work and full of play-
    I dropped the worry on the way-
    And God was good to me everyday.
  • Damewort - Sanctuary
    Damewort - Sanctuary Posts: 573 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    We aren't overpowered - everything is as it should be. We got partly replaced by genies in squads, so when you have enough with with being replaced by a flying bug, then just get herc and nix and become director of your own play ^^ Legendary pets are compensation for us getting replaced ^^
  • Reivi - Sanctuary
    Reivi - Sanctuary Posts: 742 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    replaced???

    not replaced.. only mostly inexistant in any kinda group ;)

    sure we do solo 99% of the bosses , especially Krimson and wurlord !!




    when some ppl will grow up, play a veno past lv 50, and see what a veno really is.. maybe mentallity will change...
    I look at all the trollers, and Pvpers.. and know they wouldnt have lasted 30sec on Camelot.

    Rules= Know your enemy (players and NPCs) gives you more chances to survive.
  • Charmed_ice - Sanctuary
    Charmed_ice - Sanctuary Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    HEY! No taking this thread seriously!! Make fun of the OP! DO IT NOW!!

    b:angry

    i think it comes down to how we play our charr and what skills we use and when...... the herc is brill in tanking .. it allso can be un beaten in a pvp with a veno healing it as its the first strongest pet in the game .. but saying LA vs robe .... well a robe is pure mag .. but lest health .. a LA veno hits less but has more heath.... i find both are very good in game .... b:cute
  • EvilDragon - Dreamweaver
    EvilDragon - Dreamweaver Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    yes we can solo almost everything...
    and compared to my pet im definitely OP...that damn rock just cant hold agro!!b:angry
  • Eunuch - Dreamweaver
    Eunuch - Dreamweaver Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    What the hell, isn't trolling against the rules?
  • geisterkatze
    geisterkatze Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    We are certainly not overpowered!
    Prove? I have died once. b:chuckle
  • Varaga - Dreamweaver
    Varaga - Dreamweaver Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You know.... he's referring to himself in the multiple first person, because he is, in fact, the Original Poster. Said so himself. So, we can't prove him(them) wrong, because as he(they) said "prove to me we are not OP" And we can't...

    .... lolwat?
  • Delmarte - Lost City
    Delmarte - Lost City Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Without the Hercules and Phoenix, Venos are the best solo class and worst PvP class. Frankly if you made 20 million coins by effectively having no life for a month or spent $200 on a mmorpg when the game's major selling point is that it's FREE TO PLAY, then you deserve to be an overpowered monster.

    The rest of us may not be as powerful as you, but we take comfort in knowing that for the same effort we've either read a few more books that you or have a new real life pet hedgehog.

    Besides, my magmite and sawfly look way cooler. lol

    Peace! b:victory
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    If I'm here I'm bored or procrastinating. b:cute
  • Chobsi - Heavens Tear
    Chobsi - Heavens Tear Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Delmarte - Lost City wrote: »
    The rest of us may not be as powerful as you, but we take comfort in knowing that for the same effort we've either read a few more books that you or have a new real life pet hedgehog.


    Peace! b:victory

    I want a pet hedgehog b:laugh
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Chobsi the only thing your good at is making your character look good, otherwise your fail"
    "Did that 95 BM just kill himself to your Herc? Mmm..Yep"
    "Oh that thing I thought was a statue, it 1 shot me, switch to your cleric please"
    "So that Hercules guy from the disney movie really aged well.."
    ~Chobsi b:cute
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I 've come to the conclusion tht Venos are OPed with Legendary pets as they become more self reliant on them.Those with them probably never use another pet agian good thing there is no water version.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Delmarte - Lost City wrote: »
    Without the Hercules and Phoenix, Venos are the best solo class and worst PvP class.
    The veno is overpowered at soloing, but they're supposed to be. Just like the cleric is overpowered at healing, the barb is overpowered at tanking, the archer at dealing damage, etc. In the higher level instances, the herc (or a pet with herc skills) is necessary if you want the veno to keep soloing. Without it, the class is IMHO broken as a solo class.

    If you compare a veno soloing an FB to a competent group (e.g. cleric + barb + damage class), I've found the group can generally finish up at least 3x quicker than the solo veno, sometimes faster. The time difference is so pronounced I try to get another person to join my veno's "solo" runs. With an archer, it means the difference between taking ~22 minutes vs ~8 minutes to kill a boss when I timed it at level 67 in FB59 with a stopwatch. And the archer isn't even using all his damage skills since my herc can't draw as much aggro as a barb. (Exception being those [?] bosses since pets ignore the 75% damage reduction. I agree that needs to be fixed.)
  • Flauschkatze - Heavens Tear
    Flauschkatze - Heavens Tear Posts: 998 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    geisterkatze wrote: »
    We are certainly not overpowered!
    Prove? I have died once. b:chuckle

    there's another katze Oo
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  • Tisa - Dreamweaver
    Tisa - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    envymeplz wrote: »
    We can solo 99% of bosses with herc, rule pvp with Nix and bleed drops robes in seconds. So prove to me we are not op.
    Thank you and have a good dayb:bye

    Only until people start properly refining their 90's gear and reach decent Pdef. When that happens, it's pretty much balanced imo. Bleed doesn't hurt as much when you're pushing 6k-7k+ HP (buffed), especially with a charm.
    Those are the levels that matter, not when you get killed at 70 while wearing crappy TT70 armor.
  • Reikara - Heavens Tear
    Reikara - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,321 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I beat a level 87 barbarian without purging and without using a nix. I used the level 85 firefox instead.

    I beat a level 92 archer without using any weapon at all. Other times was very close. (I actually forgot to re-equip it after duelling a level 18 for fun.)

    I've beaten many blademasters/clerics/archers/wizards without using a phoenix or bramble or ampily or purge as per request.

    Each of these classes have just an equal chance killing me as I do them. Archers, i'd say more.
    I detest having to fight barbs with charms, there's no point. I think i'd rather run.

    Hercules and phoenixes are overpowered. Not venomancers themselves. It all depends on how you build yourself, and how you play it.
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  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Dunno about PVP, but PVE - yes, we are overpowered.

    Even before legendary pets, I was going out and saying "Huh, these quests are only 2 levels above me. Where can I find monsters five levels above me, three at a time?" where other classes are going "Argh! Need more pots! These mobs are dangerous!"

    With legendary pets (thank you double pet pack sale)... well, they're not levelled up yet, and yeah. Stupidly powerful. Not as fantastic as people rave them to be, but powerful. (Change that three into a five, and solo some bosses)

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