how to win a Cleric in duel

Whiteleo - Lost City
Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
edited July 2009 in Wizard
can someone tell me how to fight a cleric
i duel with a same lvl cleric (69) and she just own me.
her plume short is 3 hit to me, wtf?
duel start , she sleep me, then plume short me , i lose in 3 plume short.
i sutra , but she always Tree of protection and IH before duel start.
how can i win?
Cleric why too own to wizard?
she said i can't win her a single duel even we are same lvl. b:shutup
how?, any idea b:surrender
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    thats why in my opinion duels are pointless.

    fight your friend in pk with charms, it makes things more interesting.

    but from what ive read its near impossible for a wiz to beat a cleric the same level as the wiz before 8x

    *the way u describe plume shot 3 shotting u, im assuming you are an arcane build. Consider LA?*
  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    3 plume shots? You must be arcane i guess.Im LA and its a bit easier for me since plume does not do that much.In a duel where there are no charms you can Occult Ice (hope for a stun) or SS>FoW>BT>probably dead
    In pvp its a lil harder if they have charms.
    Oh and PvP>Duels
    Quit.
  • Orenji - Heavens Tear
    Orenji - Heavens Tear Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    ok well havent been on forums for a while due to fact ppl post 90% bs but here goes.

    there are couple ways of beating a cleric 1v1, first try understand how cleric pvp and how the class is designed.

    Clerics are slow and have defensive skills for example the many healing spells they have and plumeshell, see ecatomb because im not gona list em on here, secondly clerics have little less casting range than mages do, this isnt much yes but using it to your advantage will determine how well and how long you last against a cleric 1v1. MORNING DEW IS GREAT against clerics 1v1, learn how to use this skill and dont qq about the channeling time, mages are fast with distance shrink with lots of slow spells.. fow imo > sleep, it doesnt take 33 second to dbuff a target to cast 1 spell and do i have to say anything about a 40second cooldown time compared 21sec or 18sec if you went demon on our force of will.

    I gave you a lot of tips, now figure out how to use it.

    One last thing, pvping any class make sure your at max distance of your spell, except sometimes archer but this depends on certain situations.

    To sum it up play a bit more defensive instead of being all offense against a defensive designed character.
  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    it's a shame that i don't pvp(pk) that much, cause i can't effort dolls
    whenever i buy dolls all are waste by RQ and pker.
    i don't want to lose my 3* and HH weapon etc.
    i don't have pk exp, i must say.
    but i duel a lot b:victory
    thanks you all for the reply , and time , i will learn more b:thanks

    hey btw, i never lose a cleric who didn't heal him/herself.
    but IH and Tree of protection? b:surrender
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  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    If you duel with someone using consumables in duels (and genie stamina gets consumed when their skills get used), you need to be using consumables also if you want to win, unless you outlevel them by a lot (or unless you have much better gear -- like maybe they are not using a weapon).

    Personally, though, I think that "rule" about no potions in duels makes no sense when fighting a cleric using heals.

    Damage absorb pots and hp recovery (not life powder) are awesome when dueling, they give us an edgeb:cute
    Quit.
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    can someone tell me how to fight a cleric
    i duel with a same lvl cleric (69) and she just own me.
    her plume short is 3 hit to me, wtf?
    duel start , she sleep me, then plume short me , i lose in 3 plume short.
    i sutra , but she always Tree of protection and IH before duel start.
    how can i win?
    Cleric why too own to wizard?
    she said i can't win her a single duel even we are same lvl. b:shutup
    how?, any idea b:surrender

    Cleric is really hard to beat down before 8x.
    BUT, you have to use every single skill available.
    Don't complain about him using ToP, you have to use it too. Get it on you genie ASAP, it will be a life saver. You don't have it? get it and don't duel ToP chars until u have it.
    Pop a 4000hp/30sec apothecary stuff or some phys dmg reduction pots( there are some that absorb up to 2k or 3k dmg).
    Always start with FoW, lvl that FoW to max as is a MUST HAVE in duels. Unless I had big lag, nothing else than another wizz can seal me. The description on ecatomb doesn't really say the truth. We can land that FoW before a Cleric Seal, Archer or even BM stun if we have a decent distance. Get a SS in while the cleric is sealed, blink out of range after...
    There is no "do this+this+this+this.... and you will emerge victorious" scenario in PvP. U need to adapt , change the way you fight, change spells depending how much chi u have, etc. Every time I see ( usually archers) giving moves advices for sure victory I'm LMAO.
    well, except venos with Nix. Push a buton a get a beer while your pet **** in PvP or does the quest for you in PvE
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  • ShadowDrag - Lost City
    ShadowDrag - Lost City Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    i forgot how hard it was.. jking its still hard as **** at my lv i say lv your force of will and start off with that b4 they can sleep and blast him/her with skills, use phy def stones and max your earth barrier, use tree of protection and the skill that makes u immune to sleep, i have sleep and undine and this is usally my attacks in pvp on celric- seal, undine, gush, sleep, sandstorm, blink back, once i see him/ her do sleep, activate the immunity to sleep skill then hope u do enough dmg to kill him/her
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  • Camerlengo - Dreamweaver
    Camerlengo - Dreamweaver Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    There is no way to beat a good Cleric 1v1. :P
    Full power to the Vagiroscope!
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    adrenaline surge and extreme poison are your best friend in duels with clerics b:cute
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    adrenaline surge, heart of steel. Clerics are pretty screwed now.
    Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.

    Send me a mail if you wanna ask/request anything

    Sanctuary's retired king of wizards alongside queen Saintblu.
  • RockSkin - Sanctuary
    RockSkin - Sanctuary Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Personally, though, I think that "rule" about no potions in duels makes no sense when fighting a cleric using heals.

    Potions are potions. Skills are skills. Ok it's your personal thought, but I really I disagree with it.

    The "rule" in duels it's easy: no pots and, if the other player agrees, no genies. If both want to use genies that's fine, but imo duels are to be done without genie skills and only with your own skills.
    Life's too short to be wrong.

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  • Prediction - Lost City
    Prediction - Lost City Posts: 343 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    can someone tell me how to fight a cleric
    i duel with a same lvl cleric (69) and she just own me.
    her plume short is 3 hit to me, wtf?
    duel start , she sleep me, then plume short me , i lose in 3 plume short.
    i sutra , but she always Tree of protection and IH before duel start.
    how can i win?
    Cleric why too own to wizard?
    she said i can't win her a single duel even we are same lvl. b:shutup
    how?, any idea b:surrender

    clerics have plume shorts?
    FPW > PWI b:victory
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    a funny duel
    cleric spamming IH on themself and doing cyclone and plume shot.
    before i lose i sutra heal myself and finish the cleric off
    the cleric said, No fair you healed.

    lmao
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Kannone - Heavens Tear
    Kannone - Heavens Tear Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    But this rule saying skills are ok but no consumables are not? I am sorry, but I have a skill which lets me make consumables and you want me to not be using them? So this kind of duel... would have some other purpose than letting us exercise our skills? If you could explain this purpose (and perhaps including, you know, actual information), that might be great!

    b:dirty You're a genius lol... love the logic.


    This rule even makes sense, sort of -- this rule's point would be: you are not allowed to win.

    Yes; this is what every other class resorts to when they realize a wiz played well will always facerape against other classes. b:victory


    byebye thread b:bye
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    You do not like information, maybe?



    Ok, so... a disagreement is a disagreement?




    Yes, and in fact, I think I might actually be capable of understanding this rule, it is just that simple of a rule. And a rule is a rule, right?


    But... still... I think this rule makes no sense.

    And when I say "makes no sense" I do not mean I am not capable of understanding how this rule works. I am saying I do not see any point in either the rule or the duel.

    For contrast, I can see a point in a duel where both parties agree: no weapons, no skills. Duels like that serve a very valuable purpose in this game. And so I would say that kind of rule would make sense.

    But this rule saying skills are ok but no consumables are not? I am sorry, but I have a skill which lets me make consumables and you want me to not be using them? So this kind of duel... would have some other purpose than letting us exercise our skills? If you could explain this purpose (and perhaps including, you know, actual information), that might be great!

    cant argue with that lmao. crafting IS a skill

    b:chuckle

    This rule even makes sense, sort of -- this rule's point would be: you are not allowed to win.
    good point

    You're a genius lol... love the logic.





    Yes; this is what every other class resorts to when they realize a wiz played well will always facerape against other classes. b:victory


    byebye thread b:bye
    ty b:cute

    wow doing my WQ and just lmao at this
    Cholla <3
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    clerics have plume shorts?

    Watch out those shorts are deadlyb:shocked
    Quit.
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Potions are potions. Skills are skills. Ok it's your personal thought, but I really I disagree with it.

    The "rule" in duels it's easy: no pots and, if the other player agrees, no genies. If both want to use genies that's fine, but imo duels are to be done without genie skills and only with your own skills.

    duels should be carried out with lvl 1 bow and no arrows.

    I mean, wtf? No genies in duels = no brain usage.
    Smash your face on the keyboard and call the opponent n00b cause u owned him.
    Some ppl...
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    There is no way to beat a good Cleric 1v1. :P
    uh....lol.
    no other comment needed
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