LA Veno+nix VS. LA wiz

Beetlejeuce - Lost City
Beetlejeuce - Lost City Posts: 11 Arc User
edited July 2009 in Wizard
If an LA veno+nix were to vs. an LA wiz, who comes out ahead?
I'm already pretty sure the LA veno can take on most other classes, JW about how it does vs. an LA wizard of the same lvl. Any ideas?
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  • VenosRop - Lost City
    VenosRop - Lost City Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    If an LA veno+nix were to vs. an LA wiz, who comes out ahead?
    I'm already pretty sure the LA veno can take on most other classes, JW about how it does vs. an LA wizard of the same lvl. Any ideas?

    lol @ troll thread.
  • Beetlejeuce - Lost City
    Beetlejeuce - Lost City Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    lol @ troll thread.

    Troll? Is that your word of the year? I mean that's all I ever see your responses being. Sadly, I'm asking an honest question. Thanks for your input though, really.

    The reason I'm asking, since it must be clearly described for someone of your high intelect for detecting such "trolls," I'm currently working on making an LA wizard, and I'm wondering if a veno is better or worse against them.
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I don't know about LA wizz, but if a Robe wizz has Soporific Whisper and FoW decently upgraded and sees your Nix commin, it's either run or die for veno.
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  • Piliener - Lost City
    Piliener - Lost City Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    The nix will almost always beat the wiz if it reaches them of course.
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    if.
    that's why i've said "..and sees your Nix commin..."
    And there is that nice genie skill that makes you imune at bleed for 7 sec.
    enough to WoP-blink-whatever to kill nix.
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  • Beetlejeuce - Lost City
    Beetlejeuce - Lost City Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    if.
    that's why i've said "..and sees your Nix commin..."
    And there is that nice genie skill that makes you imune at bleed for 7 sec.
    enough to WoP-blink-whatever to kill nix.

    The goal is to kill the nix first? I always thought you just kill the veno while the pet flutters around. Then again, thats from the perspective of a BM cuz the only times I've dueled a veno was on my BM, and she didnt have a nix either, so I just magic marrow'd and tanked her pet, only lost maybe 1/3rd of my HP.
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    well , some go for veno, some go for Pet. It's a matter of taste/playing style.
    If the pet is not a Nix, u can try to tank, but I think is taking chances.
    I went againt a lot of venos in TW, every time they were able to land the Nix on me without seeing it commin, it served my **** on a plate. Not when I had enough time to see the nix. A nix is usually 3 hits, maybe 2 if u can land a SS. After that the veno should be, I repeat, should be manageable opponent.
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  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    if.
    that's why i've said "..and sees your Nix commin..."
    And there is that nice genie skill that makes you imune at bleed for 7 sec.
    enough to WoP-blink-whatever to kill nix.

    Purge and your immunity is gone....just wanted to put that out there.
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    well I only need that "just in case" and a wizz that fights a Nix in Veno attk range is a little ... slow ( not to use the r word)
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  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    well I only need that "just in case" and a wizz that fights a Nix in Veno attk range is a little ... slow ( not to use the r word)

    Eh..stuff happens maybe a skill is on cooldown you know what i mean?
  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    The thing flies at high speed(10m/s about). This makes FoW+Will of nix just delay tactics, best case scenario the veno doesn't know their skills, cauterize/bleed prevention thingy from your genie keeps you safe(a veno that knows their skills will purge you then kite until bleed is ready).

    There is a kind of myth that essential sutra can kill a phoenix but the MDef on the thing meams that will only work on an underleveled nix. Use undine strike and extreme poison here and hope you crit on the thing.
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    mmm a veno will always have the advantage... but depending on how good each person plays their class and the gear etc, weird stuff can happen. I've gotten lucky by one shotting the veno with some nice crit, but other than that... I usually die. I can't kill the damn nix faster than the veno can heal it... and I drop fast to both the nix (even with cauterize the thing hits like mad and does like 600 per hit... and interupts all my skills) or the veno hits me pretty good with their wood skills. I generally just stay away from them b:sad
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  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I like veno's better with sawflies, they go down in two shots.
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  • Miss_Tika - Lost City
    Miss_Tika - Lost City Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    venos will always have the advantage over EVERY class because they're broken and over powered.

    best thing to do im my opinon, would to undine strike the veno, use an antistun before contact and hope for a tempest/icedragon crit. Attack first then ulti and hope for kill. Otherwise fuel to safe. **** venos

    as a arcane mage you're more squishy, but i consistantly one shot LA venos with undine strike (or genies) tempest/icedragon, non crit. LA mages need crits to kill <_<
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    The best way to beat a veno is to drop on the ground and holy path to safezone.
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  • Miss_Tika - Lost City
    Miss_Tika - Lost City Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    The best way to beat a veno is to drop on the ground and holy path to safezone.

    that always works.

    then come back out and ninja them b:bye
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    No.
    The veno will have defense charms and bramble hood.
    Just do not bother.
    The phoenix will kill you by just looking at you.
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    well, the highest venos on my server are in my faction so i don't have to fight them :D
    The rest, yeah, I died from Nix a lot in TW. Somehow they just got me unprepared haven't seen it commin, just saw that fire thing around me and died soon after, lol. But I killed venos with Nix. I might have been lucky, but I did it.
    And any other pet beside Nix is just a joke in PvP.
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