Is this game ubalanced?
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Sinew - Lost City wrote: »Reason for question is have been reading through countless threads
Apparently everyone's opinion is that venomancers are way over powered
Apparently they can solo dungeon early levels they get overpowered skills
and stuff is this true?
Bare in mind you are a different class and have the ultimate gear for your level and correct stat point alignment.and your skill combo's and correct points in those skills are all optimal.And you can pull off skill combination's like a seasoned professional
And as they should be.
Do They still win hands down?..
And why do they get such charity in the forms of pets and everyone else misses out? it's unfair!..ye QQ whatver who gives a ****.
Just answer the question.Btw i won't re roll one i just want to know. I personally think there ugly looking things.
I think the reason venos are overpowered is because you need easy setting in every game. At least in PVE, playing veno is playing in easy setting.
At the same time, veno is also a class for people who wants to get the best return for their money expend in their game. Buy a herc and a phoenix.0 -
The only people who think the venomancers are overpowered are the ones who don't play them.
It's written in the class description that venomancers are meant to be a solo type class, so having a hercules pet makes every bit of sense to me, especially the fact that it costs alot, so it's not made easy to get.
Pheonix also makes alot of sense to me, since in PvP venomancers are actually quite weak without pets. They're watered down so that their damage isn't anything too incredible when combined with their pets damage. You imgane putting a real cleric or a real wizard (who both have insanley high magic attack) with a pet and you'd get a overpowered.
Each class has it's own pros and cons, people just don't know how to read manuals; or in this case, class descritpions.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
meh, and the only ones defending flesh ream and venos... are venos, ask urself whyReikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »The only people who think the venomancers are overpowered are the ones who don't play them.
It's written in the class description that venomancers are meant to be a solo type class, so having a hercules pet makes every bit of sense to me, especially the fact that it costs alot, so it's not made easy to get.
Pheonix also makes alot of sense to me, since in PvP venomancers are actually quite weak without pets. They're watered down so that their damage isn't anything too incredible when combined with their pets damage. You imgane putting a real cleric or a real wizard (who both have insanley high magic attack) with a pet and you'd get a overpowered.
Each class has it's own pros and cons, people just don't know how to read manuals; or in this case, class descritpions.
and btw u may need pets for PvP but not a damn overpowered skill[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Raydoit - Sanctuary wrote: »Veno with nix = Wiz and archer in one
Veno with herc = Cleric and barb in one
Veno with herc against lvl"?" mobs = Cleric, Barb, Archer and Wizard in one
added a bit =P
imo herc wouldn't be a problem at all if pet dmg was reduced too.
then a veno with herc still could solo TT squad mode but it actually would take some reasonable time.
veno with nix wouldn't be a problem either if flesh ream was fixed.
it's pretty much bugs which mess up the balance (assuming the fact that pet dmg doesn't get reduced is actually a bug).b:quiet0 -
TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »meh, and the only ones defending flesh ream and venos... are venos, ask urself why
and btw u may need pets for PvP but not a damn overpowered skill
Just for saying that instead of the b word I am going to have to give you a kiss b:kissToo often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
Chili - Dreamweaver wrote: »added a bit =P
imo herc wouldn't be a problem at all if pet dmg was reduced too.
then a veno with herc still could solo TT squad mode but it actually would take some reasonable time.
veno with nix wouldn't be a problem either if flesh ream was fixed.
it's pretty much bugs which mess up the balance (assuming the fact that pet dmg doesn't get reduced is actually a bug).
Have you ever soloed TT in squad with a herc? It takes 2-3 times longer and you have to skip lots of the bosses..... It is really not worth it when you can run the full TT with a 4 person squad make faster, safer and actualy be able to do all the bosses...Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »
Each class has it's own pros and cons, people just don't know how to read manuals; or in this case, class descritpions.
I'm not a veno hater. but as veno you dont need to read any manual as compared with other classes.
1) PVP, send the phoenix and run away.
2) soloing FB, pull one mob, then tank it and heal pet and repeat.
3) Bosses, send the herc and start healing.
4) become a ghost by farming TT and only come out to farm the subs and sell the drops and repeat process.b:thanks
Thats the manual in case somebody does not have it.b:victory
I agree the class must remain the way it is. Since, in this game there is a class for every type of individual.0 -
I've said this once and i've said it again. You guys can all go cry about it all you want, there's many ways to deal with fleshream if you're smart about it, no idea why blademasters and barbarians cry about it, i'm heavy armour myself. It only tickles me.
The fleshream skill was "fixed" at one point on the MY server, however what they found was that this left the venomancers considerably underpowered, since most of the player base was level 90+, and most of the players all had good gear. They put it back to it's original state and let things continue as they are.
I'm not saying you need +5 your stuff just to deal with fleshream (which you shouldn't) but they even gave you guys genies to deal with and yet there's still whiners. You can use pots, you can run, you can jump in water, you dont have to PvP ect. Use your imagination.
But no, I honestly don't think venomancers are overpowered, however I do think that people whine too much. If a venomancer wasn't my main, I would've made an alt to farm dungeons/coins instead of coming on the forums and letting my incessent whining fall on deaf ears.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
and I shall accept it and send a new one instead of blabbering again about it b:kissIceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »Just for saying that instead of the b word I am going to have to give you a kiss b:kiss
fine this thread is over <_<[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »Have you ever soloed TT in squad with a herc? It takes 2-3 times longer and you have to skip lots of the bosses..... It is really not worth it when you can run the full TT with a 4 person squad make faster, safer and actualy be able to do all the bosses...
have you ever run the full TT wit ha 4 man person squad without a veno? b:bye
but yes i must admit at lvl90+ DDs can actually do some good damage in TT, not even close to the damage of a lvl90+ herc but it comes closer.b:quiet0 -
Granrey - Sanctuary wrote: »I'm not a veno hater. but as veno you dont need to read any manual as compared with other classes.
1) PVP, send the phoenix and run away.
I'd just like to point out that these types are the easiest to kill.
You can ignore the bird and go straight for the veno, she wont know what
to do without her precious nix.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
just kill the nix >.>Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »I'd just like to point out that these types are the easiest to kill.
You can ignore the bird and go straight for the veno, she wont know what
to do without her precious nix.Quit.0 -
Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »I'd just like to point out that these types are the easiest to kill.
You can ignore the bird and go straight for the veno, she wont know what
to do without her precious nix.
Yeah if shes (most likely he) is an idiot.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
See its black and white now. It means I quit! How poetic and stuff.0 -
Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »I'd just like to point out that these types are the easiest to kill.
You can ignore the bird and go straight for the veno, she wont know what
to do without her precious nix.
1 question, as an arcane class.. how do i manage to catch up to the veno running/flying away while the nix is pecking me? even if i slept the nix (which hardly lasts at all) when it woke up it would still catch up to me be4 im within striking distance of the veno.0 -
any1 who actually plays a veno knows for one it takes a veno about 3x longer to do TT and yes they can do it but it takes long also REAM is not buged it is like that when mobs do it to you also they DO NOT have the same phy attack of the nix or pets the MOBS REAM does the same effect it does LESS dmg because of less phy attack also a nix is not worth getting if you know how to play your charecter as a veno a sawfly being just as effective in pk AND a frog or shaodo being better then hurc in some instances for tanking as my frog has MORE mag def and almost the same hp as hurc less phy def and its lvl 67 hurc = lvl80 also my frog hits as hard as my sawfly at lvl67 vs my lvl79 sawfly and my sawfly yes can hit hard but has no hp either also the so called "bug" being ingame b4 nixes came out and no1 complained them with sawfly's as they had less phy attack but the same effect people complaine because veno's put either real money or a lot of time to get the pets that they cant have and they dont want to deal with them or find a way to as a veno can be easily killed so can a nix or hurc or sawfly or any pet for that matter or you can ignore the pet and kill the veno (USE PILLS) they were there before everybody had charms and everyone did use them and add them to charms and you will outlast a veno and the dam nix or sawfly or hurc hell my scorp in sp is more feared then my kowlin my sawfly is feared more then a nix of the same lvl because i know how to use my charecter i dont just sit there or kite that doesnt help you win a fight if the other person knows how to beat a nix and yes it is possible dont say it isnt as it takes work but if you are to LAZY to kill it or deal with it dont complaine we worked for them so hate us if we use them i dont need to but if i use my nix for pking i wonder when it wil be more feared them my sawfly as my fly attacts less notice and being more feared once it hits u and ur hp hits halfway in about 5 seconds you go wtf but then its to late that being said stop complaining about a class if you dont want to put effort to find a way to beat the veno as veno's actually show each other how to do **** its why we are so good we need to show each other or we wont learn anything as i know barbs dont show barbs how to be a barb or a bm do that that would be the day if it happens a veno has to help a veno learn as we are all we have every1 does hate venos for being a solo class and needing us for dungeons as we can lure more effectivly then any class we also dont solo them straight we lure one mob at a time to stay alive like we do for reg squad and a frog and shaodo being great tanks for TT if you dont beileve me go lvl some up on a veno give the frog ream bash tough and if u want shriek that will help you take a lot of dungeons to but no1 ever complained b4 venos paid for their nixs and hurcs as they dont care to think a veno can do w/o them a veno can they are still able to solo but they do need more then just one veno for that and most times a veno will squad up with 2-3 venos for TTing solo a veno tho cant solo a whole TT from 1-2-1-3-2-2-2-3 either we do pass up a lot of bosses and do pass up a lot of things to get the TT done faster and not die from bosses as we cant solo them you can solo them with ur squad we cant we do solo smoe bosses but dont think we (solo) a whole dam TT thats funny we dont we pass up mobs and bosses and solo wat we can sell that and buy our mats that we need also a veno can needs about every skill in its skill tree to be effective in pk and pve to we do need them as they help us deal with people in pk and the DOT skills at higher lvls are great people ignore them but they dont know they stack on top of each other poison burn and frostbite but like i said if you really think a veno being op when you have had pills and now a dam genie to prevent the ream and stop it how lazy are you getting to complaine about it and not do something instead people delt with sawfly's and didnt complain as a veno needed more skill with that wioth a nix it has higher dmg but not much it has more hp and def and magdef that was paid for with either like 100+ hrs for grinding ect or 200-250$ also a sawfly can be given tough to prevent 30% dmg for 15 seconds at lvl 1 so that being said its effective and you dnot need to get a nix so stop complianing when you dont b4 they come out and do after the OP class used to be archers and still can be if played right but venos get picked on because we can actually lure and solo **** but oh wait GENIE LURING wow wat a concept a cleric can now solo TT with a barb that being said i know a BM and Cleric that solo 3-1 and 2-3 and 1-3 solo it w/o charms they do it that being said i cant do that even at lvl90 i wont be able to with a pet hurc so dont say that venos are able to solo everything and **** as they cant also its the DAM buffs hurc has that makes him great they incrwease mag and phy def by 150% thats why and it makes him hard to kill give a shaodo that and tough and ream or bash and u will be tanking it with shaodo like a hurc does the bosses being harder ya but not that much harder b4 tho no1 complains as they used to make money off TT also now venos can run it a bit more and make money to and theres more venos to so venos lower the prices by flooding the market thats about it hate venos another time when u can but dont hate us for smething we spent either time or money to get a but of more stats for a pet that still cant solo a full TT 1-2 1-3 2-2 2-3 3-2 3-3 we solo only a few not all thats why its faster to im done here btw later if you dont believe my statments test them then and see for yourself also the BM is Reise and his Cleric friend Kimitia i beielve its spelled also they are both lvl 93-96 that being said later[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Dont be fooled by looks.
Even beauty can kill.
also wish they would fix the dam prob with my "join date" its way off>_>0 -
Wall-o-Textb:lustI_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear wrote: »any1 who actually plays a veno knows for one it takes a veno about 3x longer to do TT and yes they can do it but it takes long also REAM is not buged it is like that when mobs do it to you also they DO NOT have the same phy attack of the nix or pets the MOBS REAM does the same effect it does LESS dmg because of less phy attack also a nix is not worth getting if you know how to play your charecter as a veno a sawfly being just as effective in pk AND a frog or shaodo being better then hurc in some instances for tanking as my frog has MORE mag def and almost the same hp as hurc less phy def and its lvl 67 hurc = lvl80 also my frog hits as hard as my sawfly at lvl67 vs my lvl79 sawfly and my sawfly yes can hit hard but has no hp either also the so called "bug" being ingame b4 nixes came out and no1 complained them with sawfly's as they had less phy attack but the same effect people complaine because veno's put either real money or a lot of time to get the pets that they cant have and they dont want to deal with them or find a way to as a veno can be easily killed so can a nix or hurc or sawfly or any pet for that matter or you can ignore the pet and kill the veno (USE PILLS) they were there before everybody had charms and everyone did use them and add them to charms and you will outlast a veno and the dam nix or sawfly or hurc hell my scorp in sp is more feared then my kowlin my sawfly is feared more then a nix of the same lvl because i know how to use my charecter i dont just sit there or kite that doesnt help you win a fight if the other person knows how to beat a nix and yes it is possible dont say it isnt as it takes work but if you are to LAZY to kill it or deal with it dont complaine we worked for them so hate us if we use them i dont need to but if i use my nix for pking i wonder when it wil be more feared them my sawfly as my fly attacts less notice and being more feared once it hits u and ur hp hits halfway in about 5 seconds you go wtf but then its to late that being said stop complaining about a class if you dont want to put effort to find a way to beat the veno as veno's actually show each other how to do **** its why we are so good we need to show each other or we wont learn anything as i know barbs dont show barbs how to be a barb or a bm do that that would be the day if it happens a veno has to help a veno learn as we are all we have every1 does hate venos for being a solo class and needing us for dungeons as we can lure more effectivly then any class we also dont solo them straight we lure one mob at a time to stay alive like we do for reg squad and a frog and shaodo being great tanks for TT if you dont beileve me go lvl some up on a veno give the frog ream bash tough and if u want shriek that will help you take a lot of dungeons to but no1 ever complained b4 venos paid for their nixs and hurcs as they dont care to think a veno can do w/o them a veno can they are still able to solo but they do need more then just one veno for that and most times a veno will squad up with 2-3 venos for TTing solo a veno tho cant solo a whole TT from 1-2-1-3-2-2-2-3 either we do pass up a lot of bosses and do pass up a lot of things to get the TT done faster and not die from bosses as we cant solo them you can solo them with ur squad we cant we do solo smoe bosses but dont think we (solo) a whole dam TT thats funny we dont we pass up mobs and bosses and solo wat we can sell that and buy our mats that we need also a veno can needs about every skill in its skill tree to be effective in pk and pve to we do need them as they help us deal with people in pk and the DOT skills at higher lvls are great people ignore them but they dont know they stack on top of each other poison burn and frostbite but like i said if you really think a veno being op when you have had pills and now a dam genie to prevent the ream and stop it how lazy are you getting to complaine about it and not do something instead people delt with sawfly's and didnt complain as a veno needed more skill with that wioth a nix it has higher dmg but not much it has more hp and def and magdef that was paid for with either like 100+ hrs for grinding ect or 200-250$ also a sawfly can be given tough to prevent 30% dmg for 15 seconds at lvl 1 so that being said its effective and you dnot need to get a nix so stop complianing when you dont b4 they come out and do after the OP class used to be archers and still can be if played right but venos get picked on because we can actually lure and solo **** but oh wait GENIE LURING wow wat a concept a cleric can now solo TT with a barb that being said i know a BM and Cleric that solo 3-1 and 2-3 and 1-3 solo it w/o charms they do it that being said i cant do that even at lvl90 i wont be able to with a pet hurc so dont say that venos are able to solo everything and **** as they cant also its the DAM buffs hurc has that makes him great they incrwease mag and phy def by 150% thats why and it makes him hard to kill give a shaodo that and tough and ream or bash and u will be tanking it with shaodo like a hurc does the bosses being harder ya but not that much harder b4 tho no1 complains as they used to make money off TT also now venos can run it a bit more and make money to and theres more venos to so venos lower the prices by flooding the market thats about it hate venos another time when u can but dont hate us for smething we spent either time or money to get a but of more stats for a pet that still cant solo a full TT 1-2 1-3 2-2 2-3 3-2 3-3 we solo only a few not all thats why its faster to im done here btw later if you dont believe my statments test them then and see for yourself also the BM is Reise and his Cleric friend Kimitia i beielve its spelled also they are both lvl 93-96 that being said laterQuit.0 -
I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear wrote: »any1 who actually plays a veno knows for one it takes a veno about 3x longer to do TT and yes they can do it but it takes long also REAM is not buged it is like that when mobs do it to you also they DO NOT have the same phy attack of the nix or pets the MOBS REAM does the same effect it does LESS dmg because of less phy attack also a nix is not worth getting if you know how to play your charecter as a veno a sawfly being just as effective in pk AND a frog or shaodo being better then hurc in some instances for tanking as my frog has MORE mag def and almost the same hp as hurc less phy def and its lvl 67 hurc = lvl80 also my frog hits as hard as my sawfly at lvl67 vs my lvl79 sawfly and my sawfly yes can hit hard but has no hp either also the so called "bug" being ingame b4 nixes came out and no1 complained them with sawfly's as they had less phy attack but the same effect people complaine because veno's put either real money or a lot of time to get the pets that they cant have and they dont want to deal with them or find a way to as a veno can be easily killed so can a nix or hurc or sawfly or any pet for that matter or you can ignore the pet and kill the veno (USE PILLS) they were there before everybody had charms and everyone did use them and add them to charms and you will outlast a veno and the dam nix or sawfly or hurc hell my scorp in sp is more feared then my kowlin my sawfly is feared more then a nix of the same lvl because i know how to use my charecter i dont just sit there or kite that doesnt help you win a fight if the other person knows how to beat a nix and yes it is possible dont say it isnt as it takes work but if you are to LAZY to kill it or deal with it dont complaine we worked for them so hate us if we use them i dont need to but if i use my nix for pking i wonder when it wil be more feared them my sawfly as my fly attacts less notice and being more feared once it hits u and ur hp hits halfway in about 5 seconds you go wtf but then its to late that being said stop complaining about a class if you dont want to put effort to find a way to beat the veno as veno's actually show each other how to do **** its why we are so good we need to show each other or we wont learn anything as i know barbs dont show barbs how to be a barb or a bm do that that would be the day if it happens a veno has to help a veno learn as we are all we have every1 does hate venos for being a solo class and needing us for dungeons as we can lure more effectivly then any class we also dont solo them straight we lure one mob at a time to stay alive like we do for reg squad and a frog and shaodo being great tanks for TT if you dont beileve me go lvl some up on a veno give the frog ream bash tough and if u want shriek that will help you take a lot of dungeons to but no1 ever complained b4 venos paid for their nixs and hurcs as they dont care to think a veno can do w/o them a veno can they are still able to solo but they do need more then just one veno for that and most times a veno will squad up with 2-3 venos for TTing solo a veno tho cant solo a whole TT from 1-2-1-3-2-2-2-3 either we do pass up a lot of bosses and do pass up a lot of things to get the TT done faster and not die from bosses as we cant solo them you can solo them with ur squad we cant we do solo smoe bosses but dont think we (solo) a whole dam TT thats funny we dont we pass up mobs and bosses and solo wat we can sell that and buy our mats that we need also a veno can needs about every skill in its skill tree to be effective in pk and pve to we do need them as they help us deal with people in pk and the DOT skills at higher lvls are great people ignore them but they dont know they stack on top of each other poison burn and frostbite but like i said if you really think a veno being op when you have had pills and now a dam genie to prevent the ream and stop it how lazy are you getting to complaine about it and not do something instead people delt with sawfly's and didnt complain as a veno needed more skill with that wioth a nix it has higher dmg but not much it has more hp and def and magdef that was paid for with either like 100+ hrs for grinding ect or 200-250$ also a sawfly can be given tough to prevent 30% dmg for 15 seconds at lvl 1 so that being said its effective and you dnot need to get a nix so stop complianing when you dont b4 they come out and do after the OP class used to be archers and still can be if played right but venos get picked on because we can actually lure and solo **** but oh wait GENIE LURING wow wat a concept a cleric can now solo TT with a barb that being said i know a BM and Cleric that solo 3-1 and 2-3 and 1-3 solo it w/o charms they do it that being said i cant do that even at lvl90 i wont be able to with a pet hurc so dont say that venos are able to solo everything and **** as they cant also its the DAM buffs hurc has that makes him great they incrwease mag and phy def by 150% thats why and it makes him hard to kill give a shaodo that and tough and ream or bash and u will be tanking it with shaodo like a hurc does the bosses being harder ya but not that much harder b4 tho no1 complains as they used to make money off TT also now venos can run it a bit more and make money to and theres more venos to so venos lower the prices by flooding the market thats about it hate venos another time when u can but dont hate us for smething we spent either time or money to get a but of more stats for a pet that still cant solo a full TT 1-2 1-3 2-2 2-3 3-2 3-3 we solo only a few not all thats why its faster to im done here btw later if you dont believe my statments test them then and see for yourself also the BM is Reise and his Cleric friend Kimitia i beielve its spelled also they are both lvl 93-96 that being said later
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP TYPING. No one is reading that/ even understands wtf your saying. Go to school and learn how to use a period god... EXAMPLES: " . " " , " " ? " " ! "0 -
Oh no $200... Y'all act like that paying $200 gives you the right to be OP. That's not much at 80+ - I spent 30 mil on my tt80 gold and that's just the weapon.... and I STILL can't out DPS a phoenix.0
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actuallyt read it instead of complaining like every1 does and learn something for a change instead of being a rere and complaining because its all you do it does make sense if you take your time to read it instead of being a idiot and actually try to learn something for a change also it wont change if you dont change it yourself so you do have to be willing to learn as the veno being op isnt true at all i garentee u ream is also not bugged and i have tested this in multiple situations and i have figured out the ratios for mobs DOT and pets DOT vs ream and attacks that being said if you need them i can supply them ream isnt bugged its the pets phy dmg values being higher then wat you want to deal with go up and read it and mayb learn something for a change also a period not being needed unless you actually care to place one as this not being a school or classroom so you dont need them and you are not graded on proper grammer either so bite me if you hate it but you still suck at reading if you cant understand it and do need to go back to school if you cant as that means your literacy sux and you will need to learn comprehend letters again im loging out as you seem to prolly think i have all night to bother with you but i dont[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Dont be fooled by looks.
Even beauty can kill.
also wish they would fix the dam prob with my "join date" its way off>_>0 -
Chili - Dreamweaver wrote: »have you ever run the full TT wit ha 4 man person squad without a veno? b:bye
but yes i must admit at lvl90+ DDs can actually do some good damage in TT, not even close to the damage of a lvl90+ herc but it comes closer.
I am veno, so I would have to answer I have never ran a TT without a veno..... lolToo often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear wrote: »actuallyt read it instead of complaining like every1 does and learn something for a change instead of being a rere and complaining because its all you do it does make sense if you take your time to read it instead of being a idiot and actually try to learn something for a change also it wont change if you dont change it yourself so you do have to be willing to learn as the veno being op isnt true at all i garentee u ream is also not bugged and i have tested this in multiple situations and i have figured out the ratios for mobs DOT and pets DOT vs ream and attacks that being said if you need them i can supply them ream isnt bugged its the pets phy dmg values being higher then wat you want to deal with go up and read it and mayb learn something for a change also a period not being needed unless you actually care to place one as this not being a school or classroom so you dont need them and you are not graded on proper grammer either so bite me if you hate it but you still suck at reading if you cant understand it and do need to go back to school if you cant as that means your literacy sux and you will need to learn comprehend letters again im loging out as you seem to prolly think i have all night to bother with you but i dont
Sorry, not reading anything until you learn English. <-See how i did that? I ended a sentence with that little dot called a period.0 -
you killed my eyesI_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear wrote: »any1 who actually plays a veno knows for one it takes a veno about 3x longer to do TT and yes they can do it but it takes long also REAM is not buged it is like that when mobs do it to you also they DO NOT have the same phy attack of the nix or pets the MOBS REAM does the same effect it does LESS dmg because of less phy attack also a nix is not worth getting if you know how to play your charecter as a veno a sawfly being just as effective in pk AND a frog or shaodo being better then hurc in some instances for tanking as my frog has MORE mag def and almost the same hp as hurc less phy def and its lvl 67 hurc = lvl80 also my frog hits as hard as my sawfly at lvl67 vs my lvl79 sawfly and my sawfly yes can hit hard but has no hp either also the so called "bug" being ingame b4 nixes came out and no1 complained them with sawfly's as they had less phy attack but the same effect people complaine because veno's put either real money or a lot of time to get the pets that they cant have and they dont want to deal with them or find a way to as a veno can be easily killed so can a nix or hurc or sawfly or any pet for that matter or you can ignore the pet and kill the veno (USE PILLS) they were there before everybody had charms and everyone did use them and add them to charms and you will outlast a veno and the dam nix or sawfly or hurc hell my scorp in sp is more feared then my kowlin my sawfly is feared more then a nix of the same lvl because i know how to use my charecter i dont just sit there or kite that doesnt help you win a fight if the other person knows how to beat a nix and yes it is possible dont say it isnt as it takes work but if you are to LAZY to kill it or deal with it dont complaine we worked for them so hate us if we use them i dont need to but if i use my nix for pking i wonder when it wil be more feared them my sawfly as my fly attacts less notice and being more feared once it hits u and ur hp hits halfway in about 5 seconds you go wtf but then its to late that being said stop complaining about a class if you dont want to put effort to find a way to beat the veno as veno's actually show each other how to do **** its why we are so good we need to show each other or we wont learn anything as i know barbs dont show barbs how to be a barb or a bm do that that would be the day if it happens a veno has to help a veno learn as we are all we have every1 does hate venos for being a solo class and needing us for dungeons as we can lure more effectivly then any class we also dont solo them straight we lure one mob at a time to stay alive like we do for reg squad and a frog and shaodo being great tanks for TT if you dont beileve me go lvl some up on a veno give the frog ream bash tough and if u want shriek that will help you take a lot of dungeons to but no1 ever complained b4 venos paid for their nixs and hurcs as they dont care to think a veno can do w/o them a veno can they are still able to solo but they do need more then just one veno for that and most times a veno will squad up with 2-3 venos for TTing solo a veno tho cant solo a whole TT from 1-2-1-3-2-2-2-3 either we do pass up a lot of bosses and do pass up a lot of things to get the TT done faster and not die from bosses as we cant solo them you can solo them with ur squad we cant we do solo smoe bosses but dont think we (solo) a whole dam TT thats funny we dont we pass up mobs and bosses and solo wat we can sell that and buy our mats that we need also a veno can needs about every skill in its skill tree to be effective in pk and pve to we do need them as they help us deal with people in pk and the DOT skills at higher lvls are great people ignore them but they dont know they stack on top of each other poison burn and frostbite but like i said if you really think a veno being op when you have had pills and now a dam genie to prevent the ream and stop it how lazy are you getting to complaine about it and not do something instead people delt with sawfly's and didnt complain as a veno needed more skill with that wioth a nix it has higher dmg but not much it has more hp and def and magdef that was paid for with either like 100+ hrs for grinding ect or 200-250$ also a sawfly can be given tough to prevent 30% dmg for 15 seconds at lvl 1 so that being said its effective and you dnot need to get a nix so stop complianing when you dont b4 they come out and do after the OP class used to be archers and still can be if played right but venos get picked on because we can actually lure and solo **** but oh wait GENIE LURING wow wat a concept a cleric can now solo TT with a barb that being said i know a BM and Cleric that solo 3-1 and 2-3 and 1-3 solo it w/o charms they do it that being said i cant do that even at lvl90 i wont be able to with a pet hurc so dont say that venos are able to solo everything and **** as they cant also its the DAM buffs hurc has that makes him great they incrwease mag and phy def by 150% thats why and it makes him hard to kill give a shaodo that and tough and ream or bash and u will be tanking it with shaodo like a hurc does the bosses being harder ya but not that much harder b4 tho no1 complains as they used to make money off TT also now venos can run it a bit more and make money to and theres more venos to so venos lower the prices by flooding the market thats about it hate venos another time when u can but dont hate us for smething we spent either time or money to get a but of more stats for a pet that still cant solo a full TT 1-2 1-3 2-2 2-3 3-2 3-3 we solo only a few not all thats why its faster to im done here btw later if you dont believe my statments test them then and see for yourself also the BM is Reise and his Cleric friend Kimitia i beielve its spelled also they are both lvl 93-96 that being said later0 -
[QUTearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »you killed my eyes
if you read it, can you translate it for me please? >:0 -
Oh no $200... Y'all act like that paying $200 gives you the right to be OP. That's not much at 80+ - I spent 30 mil on my tt80 gold and that's just the weapon.... and I STILL can't out DPS a phoenix.
Once you get to end game, people with gold axes will be hitting regular hits in pvp for 4k-5k.... The phoenix at that point, will be bleeding you every 3 secs for 1.5k.... Now tell me which one would you rather face? A dual axe BM hitting you for 4k-5k every second or a phoenix bleeding you for 1.5k every 3 secs?
Phoenix and fleshream are very strong between level 80-90. When most people still do not have their end game gear. The ability to get fleshream maxed at 80 gives the venos a HUGE advantage in that level range. However, once people get pass 90, and start getting their end game gear, and refining it, the phoenix really starts to take a back seat. Obviously, if you are running around in robes, it will still hurt to get a phoenix on you, but LA or HA will no longer have an issue with bleeding from the phoenix.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »Once you get to end game, people with gold axes will be hitting regular hits in pvp for 4k-5k.... The phoenix at that point, will be bleeding you every 3 secs for 1.5k.... Now tell me which one would you rather face? A dual axe BM hitting you for 4k-5k every second or a phoenix bleeding you for 1.5k every 3 secs?
Phoenix and fleshream are very strong between level 80-90. When most people still do not have their end game gear. The ability to get fleshream maxed at 80 gives the venos a HUGE advantage in that level range. However, once people get pass 90, and start getting their end game gear, and refining it, the phoenix really starts to take a back seat. Obviously, if you are running around in robes, it will still hurt to get a phoenix on you, but LA or HA will no longer have an issue with bleeding from the phoenix.
Im guessing u mean GX when u write "endgame gold axe". A Bm with GX even if highly refined does not hit 4-5 regular hits...not even close lewl.
A BM with GX hits me like 600-1.4k max regular hits (depending on build) even if +10 +12. Its only when zerk kicks in you will see high dmg. Same goes for archers 90+, they do very low dmg unless they crit.
I just got hit 784 dmg by a heaven shattered +11, which is suppose to be one of the strongest endgame weapons for archer, and it made me LOL over how nerfed archers are.
A 90+ veno on the other hand (on lets say LA armour) does wood nukes 2-3k, birds pecks 500-700 and than its bleed on top of that 1.5k every 3 sec. Its high dmg coming from 3 sources at the same time, and at 90 most classes dont even come close to tank all that dmg even if they have +5+6 gear, specially since they most likely will be debuffed.
Bleed will be an issue until you have at least 8-10k hp. And most LA/arcane users don't get that until 99+. Ironically tho venos can get 8-9k hp buffed pretty easy at low 90 b:victory. So yeah venos are broken as hell but its fun playing the most OP class in game b:surrender0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »The best thing you can do is to make one yourself and try it.
The reason venos gets pets is because they have low damage, and the pet is needed to bring the class to the same level as the other classes.
Most of the complaining is about one pet skill, the fleshream skill, where in pvp, the bleed effect does not seem to have the regular 75% damage reduction everything else has (someone calculated it in another thread, the skill does have a reduction, but is substancialy less than the usual 75%).
venos do NOT have anywhere NEAR low damage[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] With a .25x multiplier = 423520 regular
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Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »Im guessing u mean GX when u write "endgame gold axe". A Bm with GX even if highly refined does not hit 4-5 regular hits...not even close lewl.
A BM with GX hits me like 600-1.4k max regular hits (depending on build) even if +10 +12. Its only when zerk kicks in you will see high dmg. Same goes for archers 90+, they do very low dmg unless they crit.
I just got hit 784 dmg by a heaven shattered +11, which is suppose to be one of the strongest endgame weapons for archer, and it made me LOL over how nerfed archers are.
A 90+ veno on the other hand (on lets say LA armour) does wood nukes 2-3k, birds pecks 500-700 and than its bleed on top of that 1.5k every 3 sec. Its high dmg coming from 3 sources at the same time, and at 90 most classes dont even come close to tank all that dmg even if they have +5+6 gear, specially since they most likely will be debuffed.
Bleed will be an issue until you have at least 8-10k hp. And most LA/arcane users don't get that until 99+. Ironically tho venos can get 8-9k hp buffed pretty easy at low 90 b:victory. So yeah venos are broken as hell but its fun playing the most OP class in game b:surrender
Thanks for the honesty
(btw i feel like i know you >_> *wink*)0 -
Untamedchaos - Sanctuary wrote: »venos do NOT have anywhere NEAR low damage
Which class has lower damage than a veno without a pet?Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
I think this game is balanced.. They just have strong pets for venos.. If it cost $200 and you take that money and use $200 for your equip you can kill a veno.. Depending on your class. xD0
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um b:shutupBowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »learn how to use a period god... EXAMPLES: " . " " , " " ? " " ! "0
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