selling acct is bannable ???

youswallow
youswallow Posts: 7 Arc User
edited June 2009 in General Discussion
selling acct is bannable ?? i didn't really read tha TOS any1 know cause i have a screen shot of some1 wanting to sell acct with herc ...they shouted in archo
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Yes it is.
    PWE gives you authorization to use the account you create, however, they retain ownership of the account itself and all the content, even the stuff you buy with gold.
    Since the account is not yours (it belongs to PWE), you are not allowed to sell it.

    http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms
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  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I usually end up reporting two people per weekend doing this. This weekend has been pretty quiet, might have got em all for now o.o
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  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Confirmed b:shocked account selling is bannable for sure, if you see someone doing it send a screenshot along with your customer support ticket.
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    This weekend has been pretty quiet, might have got em all for now o.o

    i have at least 30 screenies of 30 diferent personsb:chuckle(i dont wana search them i have like... to much screenies to sort them out -.-' )
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  • Thelegion - Lost City
    Thelegion - Lost City Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Hum interesting, waht about if people trade their acount for in game items?... or in game money?, cauze i not against any law, is the same currency i think?... just asking to be sure in future is like a apple for a watermelon. still pwi Have the acount cauze u dont selling anything ...
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  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Hum interesting, waht about if people trade their acount for in game items?... or in game money?, cauze i not against any law, is the same currency i think?... just asking to be sure in future is like a apple for a watermelon. still pwi Have the acount cauze u dont selling anything ...

    Nope, that is not allowed either.
  • Thelegion - Lost City
    Thelegion - Lost City Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Nope, that is not allowed either.

    ok, i get it but why?...

    Ps: i dont want flames, u spoons only want to kwon. b:sad
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    ok, i get it but why?...

    Ps: i dont want flames, u spoons only want to kwon. b:sad

    The short answer:

    You do not own your account, PWE does (PWE just gives you permission to use the account), therefore you are not allowed to trade it.
    Think of it as renting. You are renting the account (free of charge), therefore you cannot sell it or trade it without PWE's permission. And they do not give you permission to do either.

    The long answer:
    TOS section 4

    PWE is the owner of the Website, the Games, the Software and the Service, which are protected by US and international law including copyright laws. All rights and title in and to the Website, the Game, the Software and the Service, all features and content thereof (including without limitation any user accounts, titles, computer code, files, game software, client and server software, tools, patches, updates, themes, objects, characters, character names, stories, storylines, objects, content, text, dialogue, catch phrases, themes, locations, concepts, artwork, designs, graphics, pictures, video, animation, sounds, music, musical, compositions, sound recordings, audio-visual effects, information, data, documentation, , "applets", chat transcripts, character profile information, game play, and recordings ) and the selection and arrangement thereof (collectively the "Proprietary Materials") are the proprietary property of PWE or its licensors and are protected by U.S. and international copyright and other proprietary rights laws. In the event that you make any modifications, adaptations or derivative works of any kind to the Proprietary Materials (the "Modifications"), whether authorized or unauthorized, you understand and agree that you shall retain no rights of any kind in and to such Modifications and that all rights therein shall belong solely to PWE. You hereby assign and transfer to PWE, without any compensation, any and all rights you may have in and to such Modifications

    http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    meh nvm .
  • Thelegion - Lost City
    Thelegion - Lost City Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    The short answer:

    You do not own your account, PWE does (PWE just gives you permission to use the account), therefore you are not allowed to trade it.
    Think of it as renting. You are renting the account (free of charge), therefore you cannot sell it or trade it without PWE's permission. And they do not give you permission to do either.

    The long answer:
    TOS section 4

    PWE is the owner of the Website, the Games, the Software and the Service, which are protected by US and international law including copyright laws. All rights and title in and to the Website, the Game, the Software and the Service, all features and content thereof (including without limitation any user accounts, titles, computer code, files, game software, client and server software, tools, patches, updates, themes, objects, characters, character names, stories, storylines, objects, content, text, dialogue, catch phrases, themes, locations, concepts, artwork, designs, graphics, pictures, video, animation, sounds, music, musical, compositions, sound recordings, audio-visual effects, information, data, documentation, , "applets", chat transcripts, character profile information, game play, and recordings ) and the selection and arrangement thereof (collectively the "Proprietary Materials") are the proprietary property of PWE or its licensors and are protected by U.S. and international copyright and other proprietary rights laws. In the event that you make any modifications, adaptations or derivative works of any kind to the Proprietary Materials (the "Modifications"), whether authorized or unauthorized, you understand and agree that you shall retain no rights of any kind in and to such Modifications and that all rights therein shall belong solely to PWE. You hereby assign and transfer to PWE, without any compensation, any and all rights you may have in and to such Modifications

    http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms

    True, but is funny, even if u buy the game in gold , you don`t own anything


    He He He He He He b:thanks

    is like, i sell what is mine and still mine ...b:dirty

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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    True, but is funny, even if u buy the game in gold , you don`t own anything


    He He He He He He b:thanks

    is like, i sell what is mine and still mine ...b:dirty

    Love this things

    The rental example if very fitting. You can paint the walls of the rental house, with your own money, but in the end, you still pay rent and the house belongs to someone else.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    It has to do with intellectual property and virtual goods. The terms are written in this way because, although you do purchase the items, it does not denote ownership. I mean "ownership" in the sense that when you completely own something you can do as you like with it. In our game we retain ownership in order to prevent unauthorized sale of our virtual goods for real money or other things. Also, if a player violates our rules they acknowledge that they can retain no rights over items that they have purchased. If they did that would mean that we would be unable to take action against them without allowing them to keep their items.

    Trust me it's nothing shady, every MMO has the same thing written in their terms
  • Tigriss - Heavens Tear
    Tigriss - Heavens Tear Posts: 760 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    It has to do with intellectual property and virtual goods. The terms are written in this way because, although you do purchase the items, it does not denote ownership. I mean "ownership" in the sense that when you completely own something you can do as you like with it. In our game we retain ownership in order to prevent unauthorized sale of our virtual goods for real money or other things. Also, if a player violates our rules they acknowledge that they can retain no rights over items that they have purchased. If they did that would mean that we would be unable to take action against them without allowing them to keep their items.

    Trust me it's nothing shady, every MMO has the same thing written in their terms

    In other words Its Your game and we are just renting it???
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  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Read what I said please b:laugh It is our content in the sense that although you purchase it, you couldn't turn around and sell it off in real life as if it was your own, it is for preventative purposes.
  • Garmr - Harshlands
    Garmr - Harshlands Posts: 321 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Read what I said please b:laugh It is our content in the sense that although you purchase it, you couldn't turn around and sell it off in real life as if it was your own, it is for preventative purposes.

    Kind of like how you can go out and buy a DVD boxed set of a TV show you watch. You own the dvds, and can watch them as you want to. But you can't make lots of copies and sell those on ebay, and you definitely can't take your copy of Lost, walk up to a TV station and say "Look, I own this series. I want you to broadcast it and send me the advertising royalties." Because you have bought the right to watch the show, not the ownership of the show and it's creative materials themselves.
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