Poison Fang in Humanoid Form

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary
WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary Posts: 1,686 Arc User
edited July 2009 in Barbarian
Searching through the forum archives I've found a few posts in which people claim that Poison Fang does not work unless you are in tiger form.

I've always assumed that it works in both forms, but just to make sure I decided to test it.

I spent 1/2 hour killing mobs with lvl. 4 Poison Fang on, and 1/2 hour killing them when it was off. I always attacked the same type of mob (Tauroc Commanders, actually), only used normal attacks, and kept track of lowest and highest damage hits.

The results:

Poison Fang OFF: 1404-2484
Poison Fang ON: 1559-2583

Damage output went up by an average of about ~125, which is roughly 18% of the weapon damage of +2 Skeleton Axes. That's exactly what the description of lvl. 4 Poison Fang says it should do.
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  • FedTehNoob - Lost City
    FedTehNoob - Lost City Posts: 557 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Thanks for posting this, you have obliterated all my doubts. b:chuckle


    Along with this, my Poison Fang is level 1 right now.

    Would anyone recommend/disrecommend leveling it? b:question
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  • WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary Posts: 1,686 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Would anyone recommend/disrecommend leveling it? b:question
    I level it only when the spirit cost is tiny compared to other skills. You only gain +2% weapon damage per level, which is maybe around +1% actual damage.

    I figure that's not enough to justify making it a priority.
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  • Belligero - Sanctuary
    Belligero - Sanctuary Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Doesn't it tell you directly in the skill description that it's for Tiger Form only anyways? XD
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  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Doesn't it tell you directly in the skill description that it's for Tiger Form only anyways? XD

    Nope, just says you need to be in tigerform to cast it.

    I recommend leveling it. Its a cheap added 30% wep damage (wood or not damage is damage). Also since I'm mostly in tigerform anyways this helps bring my damage up to almost humanoid damage (maybe upto 15-20% less dmg with maxed poison fang).
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  • TheGoliath - Heavens Tear
    TheGoliath - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    it's cheap skill to upgrade after all, I agree with Hazardus: level it

    demon fang is 50% wpn damage :Q__
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  • FedTehNoob - Lost City
    FedTehNoob - Lost City Posts: 557 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    You planning on going Demon or Sage, Hazardus?

    (Also, which would be better for PvP? b:question)
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  • Dominatiger - Sanctuary
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Its wood damage... good against other barbs and bladmasters.

    I only have it level 5 :S
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  • Neltharius - Heavens Tear
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    You planning on going Demon or Sage, Hazardus?

    (Also, which would be better for PvP? b:question)

    Demon is by far the better path to take for PvP
  • Kourg - Heavens Tear
    Kourg - Heavens Tear Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    wow that was some info! so it really works in humanoid form?? cool.. and yeah i think that it worths on leveling it too..
  • FedTehNoob - Lost City
    FedTehNoob - Lost City Posts: 557 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Demon is by far the better path to take for PvP

    Suddenly, I know which plan I am taking...b:sinb:sin
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  • Wolfgang - Dreamweaver
    Wolfgang - Dreamweaver Posts: 438 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I've got it lvl 10 (I think, not in-game atm but it's the highest for my lvl). Another benefit is it will give you some chi. All of your buffs give you chi, if you have just died and need to rebuild chi before you can flesh ream, just buff.
  • Neltharius - Heavens Tear
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Suddenly, I know which plan I am taking...b:sinb:sin

    if you want more info on demon and sage
    go to : ecatomb.net

    and just check out the pwi skills

    they'll describe exactly what the difference between demon and sage skills is

    if anybody is lazy or wants, then just request it and i can take some time to describe it here, however, if nobody wants, i won't even waste my time ><
  • peanut
    peanut Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    easier way of testing tbh.... go find a physical immune boss, for example, fb99. use poison fang attack it, you do dmg, very little, but you do do dmg, im lvl 100 wb, and i do 150 dmg, or somehting like that to physical immune boss because of poison fang, in tiger or human, just fyi.
  • Neltharius - Heavens Tear
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    peanut wrote: »
    easier way of testing tbh.... go find a physical immune boss, for example, fb99. use poison fang attack it, you do dmg, very little, but you do do dmg, im lvl 100 wb, and i do 150 dmg, or somehting like that to physical immune boss because of poison fang, in tiger or human, just fyi.

    use your avatar then
  • Pnut - Lost City
    Pnut - Lost City Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    use your avatar then

    happy? b:byeb:bye
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    happy? b:byeb:bye

    pwnt. AND YOU STOLE MY NICKNAME! >.< Idc if you joined pwi be4 me, you still stole it. Ask anyone.

    Random little rant over b:cute

    Also grats on your first post in forums on ur main :D
  • TheGoliath - Heavens Tear
    TheGoliath - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    happy? b:byeb:bye
    level 100 panda deserve my respect :o
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  • Neltharius - Heavens Tear
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    happy? b:byeb:bye

    yes
    tyvm
    b:chuckle
  • TheGoliath - Heavens Tear
    TheGoliath - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    peanut wrote: »
    easier way of testing tbh.... go find a physical immune boss, for example, fb99. use poison fang attack it, you do dmg, very little, but you do do dmg, im lvl 100 wb, and i do 150 dmg, or somehting like that to physical immune boss because of poison fang, in tiger or human, just fyi.
    do u think we could be able to keep aggro on that boss with a... level 10 poison fang or meabe a demon version ?
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  • Neltharius - Heavens Tear
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    do u think we could be able to keep aggro on that boss with a... level 10 poison fang or meabe a demon version ?

    thats actually a great question
    for the phys immune mobs does flesh ream still work to keep aggro ? or does dealing absolutely no damage mean you cant keep it at all ?
    if that's the case then what's the point in phys only classes such as barbs going to fight those bosses
  • Pnut - Lost City
    Pnut - Lost City Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    thats actually a great question
    for the phys immune mobs does flesh ream still work to keep aggro ? or does dealing absolutely no damage mean you cant keep it at all ?
    if that's the case then what's the point in phys only classes such as barbs going to fight those bosses

    Yes, you can with poison fang tank physical immune bosses, since your bite isn't resisted, its a lot harder... i tank the physical immune boss in fb99, it helps a bit more with the useless mage buff b:laugh b:chuckle

    edit: most people have a high hp mage with a lot of pdef, or heavy wf tank it, it takes a lot longer though, since they are the only DD. But it can be tanked by a wb ;)
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  • Neltharius - Heavens Tear
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Yes, you can with poison fang tank physical immune bosses, since your bite isn't resisted, its a lot harder... i tank the physical immune boss in fb99, it helps a bit more with the useless mage buff b:laugh b:chuckle

    edit: most people have a high hp mage with a lot of pdef, or heavy wf tank it, it takes a lot longer though, since they are the only DD. But it can be tanked by a wb ;)

    awesome dude thats great info
    i actually hadn't heard of any of this stuff before so its great to know now

    tyvm for the input
  • Neltharius - Heavens Tear
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Yes, you can with poison fang tank physical immune bosses, since your bite isn't resisted, its a lot harder... i tank the physical immune boss in fb99, it helps a bit more with the useless mage buff b:laugh b:chuckle

    edit: most people have a high hp mage with a lot of pdef, or heavy wf tank it, it takes a lot longer though, since they are the only DD. But it can be tanked by a wb ;)

    awesome dude thats great info
    i actually hadn't heard of any of this stuff before so its great to know now for future reference

    tyvm for the input

    Edit:
    ewwww @ double post o.O
    hadn't ever happened before
  • Fleez - Heavens Tear
    Fleez - Heavens Tear Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    wow...had no idea it gave a small bit of damage in human too... looks like its time to bring poison fang past lvl 1.
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  • Gabriil - Lost City
    Gabriil - Lost City Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Thanks for posting this, you have obliterated all my doubts. b:chuckle


    Along with this, my Poison Fang is level 1 right now.

    Would anyone recommend/disrecommend leveling it? b:question

    I am so used to havin it that I actually notice when it wears off, because I kill the mobs slower. Kinda like noticing when bloodbath wears off, only then you miss 3 times in a row.
  • RockSkin - Sanctuary
    RockSkin - Sanctuary Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I am so used to havin it that I actually notice when it wears off, because I kill the mobs slower. Kinda like noticing when bloodbath wears off, only then you miss 3 times in a row.

    Same happens to me. Poison Fang gives me a small damage boost and it helps to bypass the horrible 50% less weapon damage from True Form. Mine is at lvl 7 b:pleased
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  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I am so used to havin it that I actually notice when it wears off, because I kill the mobs slower. Kinda like noticing when bloodbath wears off, only then you miss 3 times in a row.

    ^^ Yeah what he said.
    Mine's maxed so the difference is quite pronounced.
    And I hate it when blood bath wears off as I grind and ticks my charm. b:chuckle
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