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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    heh rose u made my day with that one.

    b:cute Only for you Bob!

    (I think we need to end the ninja on this thread...b:chuckle)
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    b:cute Only for you Bob!

    (I think we need to end the ninja on this thread...b:chuckle)

    meh they arent discussing anything worthwhile. Glue sniffing/eating is much more interesting
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I was trying to stay clear but I just can't do it b:surrender

    1) Plume = " Inflicts physical damage equal to your base magic attack plus"

    2) Razor feathers = "Inflicts physical damage equal to base magic attack plus"

    *sigh* How do some people level so high and not know there own attacks b:cry
    ROFL i guess that clears my question up. Ima lazy slob that cant wait 3 seconds for the explanation window to pop up on my skill pallet b:pleased
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    ROFL i guess that clears my question up. Ima lazy slob that cant wait 3 seconds for the explanation window to pop up on my skill pallet b:pleased

    b:embarrassb:flower
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    b:embarrassb:flower
    Really =0 it takes forever. 3 whole seconds, or was it 2. lolz
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    its your magic attack, converted into a physical spell...

    Well atleast someone around here know what he is talking about.If it wasn't you might want to go beat it with sword.


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    +1

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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    oh boy, must i explain this?

    Trust me, it does phys damage. Nothing more needs to be said. Plume Shot and Razor (why on earth would u use this in a 1v1 -_-) are magic attacks that deal Physical Damage, if you would read the description better

    Plume Shot - Focus your psychic energy to form sharp quill arrows to attack the
    enemy. Inflicts physical damage equal to your base magic attack plus
    55% of weapon damage plus 37.7.


    Razor Feathers - Manipulate your wings to form countless quill blades to attack the target and
    all enemies within 4.4 meters radius around it. Inflicts physical
    damage
    equal to base magic attack plus 110% of weapon damage plus 527.5.

    *Posts up in my high chair*

    These attacks here are for users with Light or Heavy armor, they inflict metal dmg.


    Cyclone - Summon an immense cyclone on the enemy, inflicting Metal damage equal to your
    base magic attack plus 55% of weapon damage plus 55.0.
    Has a 65% chance to reduce the enemy's movement speed by 40% for 5.3 seconds

    Wield Thunder - Cast a chain of lightning at the enemy, inflicting Metal damage
    equal to base magic damage plus 110% of weapon
    damage plus 1944.5.


    There are many others but i think you are beginning to catch my drift?

    I hate douple posting but what is the exact caculated dps from plume shot compared to some of a Barb and BM attacks?There are two types of phyiscal attacks ranged and melee this does not fit in with them.Ranged is using a bow.

    Then why isn't cyclone,wield thunder or tempest a phyiscal attack because it is hand made.We don't use bows so where does the bow come from boof we magically create one.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I hate douple posting but what is the exact caculated dps from plume shot compared to some of a Barb and BM attacks?There are two types of phyiscal attacks ranged and melee this does not fit in with them.Ranged is using a bow.

    Then why isn't cyclone,wield thunder or tempest a phyiscal attack because it is hand made.We don't use bows so where does the bow come from boof we magically create one.

    b:sweat

    We use Magic Instruments. (where did the Bow thing come from...maybe I mis-read something)

    Here...any of our skills can be done without our weapon. However, IF you do not have a magic weapon on, you lose the base magic attack plus
    %% of weapon damage to the skills.

    And all of a Clerics attacks are ranged.

    > Did I miss the question here? b:surrender
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I hate douple posting but what is the exact caculated dps from plume shot compared to some of a Barb and BM attacks?There are two types of phyiscal attacks ranged and melee this does not fit in with them.Ranged is using a bow.

    Then why isn't cyclone,wield thunder or tempest a phyiscal attack because it is hand made.We don't use bows so where does the bow come from boof we magically create one.

    We use MAGIC and with MAGICAL PROCESS we convert MAGIC in to physical attack. Jeez.....
    And lill FIY our single attack does more then a BARB/BM
    b:dirty
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    We use MAGIC and with MAGICAL PROCESS we convert MAGIC in to physical attack. Jeez.....
    And lill FIY our single attack does more then a BARB/BM

    You want to put the math to that then that our single attack does more damage than say BM/Barb.You are saying it is magical attack when casted not a physical attack.That is what I am saying.
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    You want to put the math to that then that our single attack does more damage than say BM/Barb.You are saying it is magical attack when casted not a physical attack.That is what I am saying.

    Vs Barb, yeah i am sure
    Vs BM, depends what type, still yeah
    b:bye
    b:dirty
  • Sylvae - Sanctuary
    Sylvae - Sanctuary Posts: 1,018 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Physical damage formula only counts 2/3rds of every point of str or dex for base damage multiplier. EDIT: Since someone would mess it up; str applies for melee weapons, dex applies for ranged weapons.

    Magic damage formula (counting all skill sets that use base magic, including physical damage skills) counts the full point of mag stat when determining base damage multiplier. Casters who are arcane will therefore have a much higher damage multiplier than barb or BM who stat str, dex, and some vit.

    Physical damage classes make up for it by having an attack rate or skill rate that usually allows for more than 1 hit in the time our skills take to do theirs. Also, we don't have berserk or gloom magical weapon adds unfortunately.

    So yes, of course a magic user will deal more damage in one hit than a barb or bm. Would be pretty dang unbalanced if we didn't, since the melee get more attacks in and also have weapon adds that have a chance to boost them. That is how they end up out-DD'ing us usually. Again, the game isn't going to create a huge imbalance, so just thinking about it kinda leads ya to the answer.
  • GodlyHealz - Dreamweaver
    GodlyHealz - Dreamweaver Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I hate douple posting but what is the exact caculated dps from plume shot compared to some of a Barb and BM attacks?There are two types of phyiscal attacks ranged and melee this does not fit in with them.Ranged is using a bow.

    Then why isn't cyclone,wield thunder or tempest a phyiscal attack because it is hand made.We don't use bows so where does the bow come from boof we magically create one.

    Quit Trolling and go Re-Roll a life misty.. Honestly. I knew this stuff at lvl 4..



    Go to this site, look at the skills do your own math

    Quit Trolling, Click here
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Quit Trolling and go Re-Roll a life misty.. Honestly. I knew this stuff at lvl 4..



    Go to this site, look at the skills do your own math

    Quit Trolling, Click here
    I am not trolling and I have been playing longer than you.btw I have a life.
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  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    btw I have a life.

    me too :P oh poopi i gota pee(ur rofling rught now arent ya :D)
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  • Slake - Lost City
    Slake - Lost City Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    pls tell me u are trolling on these forums mysti... cause otherwise.... I will have to feel sorry for u.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    me too :P oh poopi i gota pee(ur rofling rught now arent ya :D)

    Don't forget all the luck I gave you in getting your wings as well congrats.Me a troll No or I would be playing another class.No I play Cleric and few others but my main is cleric I don't consider that trolling.
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  • Slake - Lost City
    Slake - Lost City Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Trolling
    Trolling is trying to get a rise out of someone. Forcing them to respond to you, either through wise-crackery, posting incorrect information, asking blatantly stupid questions, or other foolishness.

    thats just one of the meanings there are alot more at http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
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  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Don't forget all the luck I gave you in getting your wings as well congrats.Me a troll No or I would be playing another class.No I play Cleric and few others but my main is cleric I don't consider that trolling.

    b:surrenderi wrote that to cheer u up
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  • Mothra - Lost City
    Mothra - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Let my topic die already
  • GodlyHealz - Dreamweaver
    GodlyHealz - Dreamweaver Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Let my topic die already

    Never! Nothing will die!

    <<<Im a cleric remember? Topic isnt dying

    *Stacks IH 10 more times*
  • Yodan - Lost City
    Yodan - Lost City Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I was trying to stay clear but I just can't do it b:surrender

    1) Plume = " Inflicts physical damage equal to your base magic attack plus"

    2) Razor feathers = "Inflicts physical damage equal to base magic attack plus"

    3) Mag Resist mobs = use Plume and Razor and they are as easy as taking down regular mobs with your magic attacks.

    4) Str will not help since the phsy damage is based off of your base magic attack

    *sigh* How do some people level so high and not know there own attacks b:cry

    ty Red i gets frustrating to explain it over and over b:thanksb:surrender