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Devilmages - Sanctuary

ok ihave a lvl 87 freind mage he said to get my next points into vit cause im pure so im going to do that and no one says otherwise lol but heres the dammed catch i die so quick i have exp scrolls i jsut lose exp i dont know what i can do sell the other and get 50k? mabye then try to socket hp into it idk can someone help me im doing good the wiz said he said im doing better than him at that lvl so im stumped wait for cs and fq or try to grind either way its saying your [removed] choose your poision [removed] :(b:sad

eatwithspoons

Hi there, can you please cool down with all of the profanity? It's a bit unnecessary and it is also against the rules.

Devilmages - Sanctuary

srry man im just in a bind

RedsRose - Lost City

All low level Wizzies go through this.

I have a few friends *cough if he comes to this post* that used to die ALL the time.

Needless to say a few of us clerics always knew where he was at any given time.

You can always add to vit now and restat later. But survivability is the most challenging part of being a low level Wiz.

Devilmages - Sanctuary

ty srry guys about erliar i was jsut mad cause i died and my guild is counting on a lvl 60 wiz if ican pull it i will be so happy but right now i feel like dirt
and another thing isold that exp scroll 50k now im wondering what to do with it lol can iget some tips ty apolgizes spoon

RedsRose - Lost City

Devilmages - Sanctuary wrote: »

ty srry guys about erliar i was jsut mad cause i died and my guild is counting on a lvl 60 wiz if ican pull it i will be so happy but right now i feel like dirt
and another thing isold that exp scroll 50k now im wondering what to do with it lol can iget some tips ty apolgizes spoon

Save it for repairs, dailies and skill upgrades.

best advice I can give you.

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear

class // difficulty

Veno = easy
Archer = normal
Cleric = hard
Wiz = nightmare

Tiaque - Sanctuary

Disclamer: These are opinions, from a purely pure wiz. Some may disagree, critize, and/or flame, and that is their perogative. Take as you will.

Don't both socketing until 60+...it's not worth it, since you blow through armor so fast.

Pure builds usually don't involve vit. Wizards only get 10hp per vit point, so it's usually not worth it. However, always make sure you put at least 3 points into magic per level - dumping all 5 pts per level is usally not a good idea. Find or craft gear with +vit, +HP, etc, instead of sharding or putting points into vit.

Invest heavily in Will of Phoenix skill. It's your best friend, once you get the timing down. You've probably heard it over and over again, but it's true. Also, Morning Dew is a decent skill to level, and Distance Shrink is great for getting yourself out of tight situations.

Take your time. Find an isolated mob of the type you have to fight, and practice skill combos on it - how much health does it lose on the first hit? How many spells can you get off on it before you're within its attack range? Study your enemy...wizards have to be strategic players. Increased Life and Increased Move Speed will affect your skills, however, Weak and Sacrifical Assualt are usually dead before they get too close.

Don't be afraid to stop and rest. Throw up your pyroshell or glacial embrace and meditate, especially if you can't afford charms. By level 3, Dew should be able to restore a very good portion of your HP.

You will die. A lot. If you can't handle it, as frustrating as it is, then I suggest you restat to LA or reroll to another class. Pure wiz are squishy (I have 1300 base hp), however, we do damage that makes archers 10 levels higher then us cry. Just hang in there...at 60+, a lot of mobs do magic attacks, so you should have an easier time.

Good luck...I hope things work out for you ^^

Gregen - Lost City

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »

class // difficulty

Veno = easy
Archer = normal
Cleric = hard
Wiz = nightmare

Cleric=hard?

I've played a Cleric and it was the easiest class I've played in my entire life.. besides Veno, but that's just a joke. With the ability to heal and buff yourself at any given time and an MP recovery rate that is through the roof I saw no challenge. I only played it up to level 30, though. So, I could be missing something. Why does Cleric=hard?

Kuoleme - Sanctuary

i'm a pure wiz and i hardly ever die when grinding o.O sure you squishy but i don't see how you die when mobs only hit you once tops before there dead o.o
unless there archer mobs xD

and i used pots till my 40s and by then guardian charms really don't cost that much lol

Rinnve - Lost City

Gregen - Lost City wrote: »

I only played it up to level 30, though. So, I could be missing something. Why does Cleric=hard?

I played cleric to 70, and it is not hard at all. Best solo class after veno.

Wizard is not hard either if played correctly. Barb is harder IMO (pve-wise), low damage, slow solo leveling, high hp but very vulnerable to magic...

To the OP: all ranged classes except veno are harder on earlier levels (before 30-35), their range is too small to be effective. Don't waste money on exp scrolls, you will not need it before aoe training (8X, i'd say). Better buy charms, and/or make some apoth items. Life Powder helped me very much before i got Will of Phoenix, decent level of Distance Shrink (level it ASAP!) and Force of Will. Also, vit helps. It is only 10hp per 1vit, but wiz don't need really high hp, only enough to get some hits and stay alive. Just make sure that you have 3 mag per level and 1 str per two levels, rest you can distribute between mag and vit as you like. (I put all extra points in vit and don't regret it.)

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver

eatwithspoons wrote: »

Hi there, can you please cool down with all of the profanity? It's a bit unnecessary and it is also against the rules.

Spoons this forum is for wizzies and cleric trolls why are you here o.o
anyways milk, cookies and a spoon for spoons.


right now i have nearly 1.7k HP. If you shard correctly you can get some pretty nice HP.

Rinnve - Lost City

1.7k hp? That's low, sorry. AFAIK it's barely enough for hh60, hardly enough for hh68. Did you did any of those?

WitchBurner - Sanctuary

Never actually seen a wizard tank a TT run before, but I guess it takes all sorts Rinnve. Soulgatherer's the only boss thats troubled me(and Wurlurd, but he troubles everyone).

Dimentora/Dimensic, his aoe is only around 15m so it's easily avoided. Feng's aoe is physical on 2-2(Haven't tried it yet), but the magic aoe is laughable even for BM's+Barbs.

Drum is probably what your on about, but with a capable squad he's easy(The barb usually dies before the squad, especially in 2-2 High where I've seen him one shot a buffed herc). Most squads I've been in ignore him altogether.

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver

Rinnve unlike you i have no points in vit. Im all mag now. I do decent damage and i have decent gear. 1.7k is an accomplishment since i also have 3.1k pdef. Most wizards i met have 2k and they are LA so shard with all citrines.

Rinnve - Lost City

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Rinnve unlike you i have no points in vit. Im all mag now. I do decent damage and i have decent gear. 1.7k is an accomplishment since i also have 3.1k pdef.

That's why i ask. I've used to rule "2k hp for hh60, 2.5k hp for hh68" since i've played cleric. 3.1k pdef is very nice, so it's interesting how it protects from drum's aoe.

p.s. about decent damage... highest pve crit 18k at 64lvl. SS ftw b:pleased

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver

dramatically low damage.......
what is your damage without crits?
im doing about 5k (pitfall and CoF)-13k (BIDS, BT)
normal sandstorm is 9k-10k i belive.

i went against the drum in 1-1 and 1-2 came out alive all cases. Sometimes I am the only one who lives. My reaction + my suitable defense as a pure wizard = survivability.

Rinnve - Lost City

Wow, 18k crit with SS is dramatically low while your highest crit with ultimate is just 4k higher... Something wrong here i think.

Normal SS for me is about 7k, but you can't have more than +1k damage with same equipment. 1k is the difference in matk between pure and 3mag builds.

WitchBurner - Sanctuary

I'm guessing his BIDS is lv.1 hence the 'low' crit. If you try and keep those maxed then you'll end broke and behind on more important skills. 18k crit with sandstorm is pretty good. 2k is the differance I have noticed since becoming LA for Gamma runs(Replaced by a fully buffed defence of almost 9k!). Since our damage is dependant on our weapon, the Ashura's sign he gets will offer a significant boost.

Your primary nukes(Sandstorm, Divine Pyro) do tend to be in the 9-10k region depending on the mobs element as a pure build. Pure Crits occassionally mean one-shots(Definately with Adv. Spark erupt).

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear

last crit i got with lvl7 black ice dragon was 36k. i don't use it often though. lacking spirit to upgrade... as usual.
25k with lvl10 sandstorm + undine yesterday on non-elemental boss.

i'm totally sure any pure (or nearly pure) wizard 86+ can do over 50k crit with lvl10 black ice dragon.

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver

witch is right. My BIDS is lvl 1 and my SS is max for lvl. Im really loving my sandstorm just started lvling it when i started playing again and i dont regret it. I use it + blinding sand on my lvl 91 guildie (who is a archer) and i saw "miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss CRIT" b:chuckle