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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    BTW: Look at what majority of ppl chose .. ? and going to cities and getting fbs from ppl who admire your status and lvl is different than sitting outside of an instance begging every poor low lvl walking by.
    id believe the sampling to be askew because 1. 44 people dont speak for PWI's populace, 2. most of this forum is composed of people whom need brain transplants and whiners.

    -note i only crash on the 'integrity' of he who repeatedly makes dumb threads/posts
  • BratFury - Heavens Tear
    BratFury - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I'm sure happy for you that you were born knowing everything. This is a place where people are supposed to come to ask about things they don't know. Instead of help we usually get snippy attitudes from those who (case in point) already knew it all before they started the game. BRAVO for your brilliance.

    id believe the sampling to be askew because 1. 44 people dont speak for PWI's populace, 2. most of this forum is composed of people whom need brain transplants and whiners.

    -note i only crash on the 'integrity' of he who repeatedly makes dumb threads/posts
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    not expressing an attitude of condescension whatsoever, look whos the one who thinks she knows everything; i only mock you :).
    You w/c all day to do fbs but won't lift a finger to help anyone kill a boss. *gasp* that would just be too much work for nothing. Get a clue.. I add every person who helps me with a boss to my friends list. And just take a guess who gets to help me do my next fb?
    Get a clue, if you want more fbs to do run to a birth city, invite about 20 lvl 5's to your faction and viola you have 20 fb's to do as these ppl lvl... x about 5.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Most faction who recruit high levels do Tw or are planning to. You cant take out another faction with low lvls >_>

    People do fbs since its a way to help other people out and be rewarded. Look at it this way. They do the fb because at the end the get rep and xp. But they go ahead and help the person to reach the end. Thus, they do the fb to help the person to recieve the reward at the end. (i hope i worded that right o.o )

    I dont help with bosses, why? I go out and help and idiots will do something stupid making me die and lose either a GA or xp. Then after you help them with the boss they want you to help with every single one of their quests. I am not doing a quest that i already completed by myself and dont get any xp for it. Its a waste of my time. I used to help a lot but i got dramatically behind in level(supposed to be a 8x right now). When people see your a high level (or to them a high level i dont consider myself a high level) they take advantage of you. Not all, but most.

    You should do some more thinking before you post....dont meanto sound mean
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Amsel - Sanctuary
    Amsel - Sanctuary Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    at this point you have gone against almost everything you have said and quite frankly i cant trust you as a player or a sane person, thanks for the opportunity to let me know to avoid your existence
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    at this point you have gone against almost everything you have said and quite frankly i cant trust you as a player or a sane person, thanks for the opportunity to let me know to avoid your existence
    who might you be refering to :o? if its me, thats nice, i can add you to the list of others who hate me, if its brat, then eh stinks to be you :P.
  • Amsel - Sanctuary
    Amsel - Sanctuary Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    who might you be refering to :o? if its me, thats nice, i can add you to the list of others who hate me, if its brat, then eh stinks to be you :P.


    lolz how nice u think im talking to you
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    no i was just asking, your statement was open to much interpretation as there was no quote or direction whom it was aimed at, thus it is called 'ambigious.'
  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    i have yet to go on an FB...mine, or for others...where the leader sets it for free. and unless an issue is made of it by a fair leader (few of those around!!), there always seems a mad rush by the members to scoop up the tabber's drops.

    i agree with you...most people who help tabbers are high enough level to not need those items! so to me, its stealing stuff intended to help that person. and you are right...those who can help out/tank an FB are able to solo that same FB or with a friend or two....there is NO REASON to take a tabber's drops.


    If you are one of those who w/c "doing your fb 19-??? you keep all drops and 3 stars" this is for you.

    First off.. I never respond but this is my thoughts and questions:

    Why on earth can't you set it to free and let the tabber have ALL drops? You don't need them. If you can solo an fb 19 you have NO need for any of the drops.

    You w/c all day to do fbs but won't lift a finger to help anyone kill a boss. *gasp* that would just be too much work for nothing. Get a clue.. I add every person who helps me with a boss to my friends list. And just take a guess who gets to help me do my next fb?

    The "factions" that sit in w/c all day and say Faction(insert here) helping with fb's go to room (insert room here). Most of you who do this are factions that are only allowing high lvl ppl in their factions. Get a clue, if you want more fbs to do run to a birth city, invite about 20 lvl 5's to your faction and viola you have 20 fb's to do as these ppl lvl... x about 5.

    And last but not least, your arrogance precedes you.
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    -FrankieRaye"
    Playing here since '08b:heart
  • Tigriss - Heavens Tear
    Tigriss - Heavens Tear Posts: 760 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Wow Lol Took 5 hours for a squad of lvl 50+ to 75 players mostly in the 50s to do an untabbed fb51. That was fun. Tho I kept having the WTF are we doing moments lol.
    "Jesus fricking christ on a pogo stick. Your a mass of fricking idiots I swear!"
    -Saitada
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    Thankies Crystalynnex
  • DarkSniper - Lost City
    DarkSniper - Lost City Posts: 1,830 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I've only done other people's FB's for other people in my faction although I don't remember helping anyone on an FB higher than 29, not that I cant do 39 just that no one ever seems to need help with one.

    And I don't think I have ever been in an FB where there was anything dropped other than coins.



    I remember my FB19 though. It was a long time ago, the highest level on the server was in the mid sixties.

    me, another level 19, and two level players level 42-43 went in.


    They killed a few mobs yet somehow ten minutes later I am running through the entire map with one of the monsters chasing me and I am the only one still alive.
    The only way to win is to quit. b:bye
  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    i have yet to go on an FB...mine, or for others...where the leader sets it for free. and unless an issue is made of it by a fair leader (few of those around!!), there always seems a mad rush by the members to scoop up the tabber's drops.

    i agree with you...most people who help tabbers are high enough level to not need those items! so to me, its stealing stuff intended to help that person. and you are right...those who can help out/tank an FB are able to solo that same FB or with a friend or two....there is NO REASON to take a tabber's drops.

    I used to set everything to free, and then I realized, why bother? Running FB's and killing things, it's so much easier to recognize various pieces of gear and loot you want, and ask for them, than it is to pick them out of the pile.

    We are all friends, and/or friends of friends, so we trust each other. Tabber gets first dibs, but we're not shy about asking about gear. Example: Say a 3star heavy armor drops on my FB. My Barb friend asks for it. Well, I certainly don't need it on this character, and giving it to him will let him tank better, as he just did on the boss we just killed. No problem. I hand it over without even a second thought.

    We're a very civil group of people, and understand need before greed to the utmost. A Veno friend of mine gave me this really gorgeous ring for me to equip when she got her TT80 rings. I gave perfect resisted LA with Channeling -3% to an Archer friend, who had given me 3 battle pet packs. I gave crit+ Phys attack rings to a Barb who had given me the mats to get my Level 5 crafting skills.

    It's common sense to help your friends. It's not common sense to expect things back from them, that's just being a selfish jerk. But, it's kinda funny. Cause, really, how it ends up happening is the people you'd give everything to, and not expect anything in return, are almost always the one who give you much, much more in return.

    You cannot get that in an FB with random people, no matter how good of a person they are. You just don't have the bonds with them you would with your friends. That is why I only run with people I know and trust. Because I know they'll be there for me.

    Plus... On a completely brutal and honest point here? Unlike a random person, I know 100% that they don't suck. As far as I know, the reason you're shouting all those FB's is because your own faction doesn't even want you to come along. And I don't mean that to offend, but you have to judge on the only information you know, and reading WC is like reading the Personals in the newspaper... You know... "SWF seeks SWM with BMW for LTR." What she doesn't tell you in that ad is that the reason she's looking for a man like that is because she's a gold digger, who will take you for every penny you own.
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Plus... On a completely brutal and honest point here? Unlike a random person, I know 100% that they don't suck. As far as I know, the reason you're shouting all those FB's is because your own faction doesn't even want you to come along.
    usually when a faction advertises, its 5 faction mates, and one spot for the tabber... not because theyre hated. these big factions keep asses even if no one likes them, like a friend of mine once said, 'big factions take anyone to make things work sometimes.' they may pretend they care about image, but they really dont, the clowns they call leaders just exclude people they dont like. big factions are two faced :)
  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    usually when a faction advertises, its 5 faction mates, and one spot for the tabber... not because theyre hated. these big factions keep asses even if no one likes them, like a friend of mine once said, 'big factions take anyone to make things work sometimes.' they may pretend they care about image, but they really dont, the clowns they call leaders just exclude people they dont like. big factions are two faced :)

    Sorry. I should have clarified. I'm used to seeing things like "Sexy Barb and Cleric SMASHING UR FB's!" Which says volumes in it's own little way. I suppose a group from a Faction would have a full party. Then again, I wouldn't know...
  • Caldaster - Lost City
    Caldaster - Lost City Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    i am one of those random fb runner. I do not do the WC thingy. I stick to the chatroom and friends. I do my best to make sure the tabber go everything. I even re killed all the quest mobs in fb39 just coz the tabber forgot to see his quest log.

    That said .. helping fb 59 - 99. Pm me if you need a good teammate.

    I do help 19-51 but let the lowbies have it.

    Quest help : well you got a faction for that. If they dont help get a better one.
    When i was in integ, we had boss and hh days.
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    Poor thing ... lucky me b:victory
  • BratFury - Heavens Tear
    BratFury - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    realisitically lets say in fb 39.... Those that do it (other than tabber) are going to be way higher than the fb. I have NEVER seen all lvl 39-45 ppl doing an fb 39. Its usually the tabber and then 5 other ppl lvl 50 and higher. NONE of those ppl will have use of anything that drops. They can't nor wouldn't use any of the 3 star stuff. Even if I mold dropped its still an item too low they (shouldn't) use it.

    If by chance I was in the fb and I was tabber and I was able to get a same lvl friend into the squad to tag along and something dropped they could use but I couldn't then I could agree with this point.

    What I do find interesting, is that you essentially said the same things I did throughout your post (maybe quite better than I did) and I've received nothing but scrutiny throughout the entire thread. *cough cough tear cough cough*

    At least you stated it to where it was more understood, thnx.

    We are all friends, and/or friends of friends, so we trust each other. Tabber gets first dibs, but we're not shy about asking about gear. Example: Say a 3star heavy armor drops on my FB. My Barb friend asks for it. Well, I certainly don't need it on this character, and giving it to him will let him tank better, as he just did on the boss we just killed. No problem. I hand it over without even a second thought.
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  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    realisitically lets say in fb 39.... Those that do it (other than tabber) are going to be way higher than the fb. I have NEVER seen all lvl 39-45 ppl doing an fb 39. Its usually the tabber and then 5 other ppl lvl 50 and higher. NONE of those ppl will have use of anything that drops. They can't nor wouldn't use any of the 3 star stuff. Even if I mold dropped its still an item too low they (shouldn't) use it.

    My FB39 was completed by 3 Venos. Me, level 45, and two friends, levels 43, and 39. Thank the gods for spam healing a Golem...