What is a PVP server in your eyes? o.o

Paigrande - Harshlands

OK. Early & lately I have seen people getting mad because there is not enough pk on this server, other saying that there is too much pk and others saying that the pk on this server is as good as in other pvp servers. So, I would like you bytches to give your opinions about what is a pvp server in your point of view.b:thanks

Ixta - Harshlands

If you guys stopped PKing and destroying the gaming experience of lowbies, they would not leave game.

All you are doing, is making people go away.

Good job on destroying a game.

Paigrande - Harshlands

Oh i can c that u r accusing the guild im in atm of pking lowbies but thats off topic...

BelleFemme - Harshlands

Random pking is fun and what not, yeah, but it's not fun to make it so someone can't do their quest or something and it makes them want to log. They just want to have fun playing the same game.

Camping SP is totally annoying. I sometimes go in there and stun whoever is camping it and tell the noobs to run and tell them to not listen to HistoryX run his failmouth... they never listen though. They just stand there. ><

Acrelar - Harshlands

You can't force people to fight you and you can't force people to not fight you. It's a game, everyone should enjoy it. If you don't enjoy pvp but enjoy the game, then a pvp-server is obviously not the right choice for you. I love doing my worldquest and actually not flying at maxheight,hoping there will be at least one person to fight back.
Today I jumped 3 kylins around sanctuary and got rolled twice cause I ran in for a second try after I already died once. I don't go around crying, I am glad I actually had some pvp on this server cause most people rather run than try to fight.
Yesterday I attacked Raitei and died to him and fueled back to him for a second try,hoping he was still around so I could try taking down an equal-lvl barb. I don't go all emo over dieing, it's a freaking game, you win some you lose some.

I'm just trying to enjoy the game, and right now I enjoy the occasional pvp. Whoever wants to be a ***** about it and QQ about being killed all day should have considered this before rolling a pvp server.
Imo it sucks that so much people try to avoid fights or don't even bother trying. Also I get so much more trashtalk from people that aren't oneshots than from people who actually are that it's getting kinda pathetic. There's people on this server that roll me every single time I face them and I can't say I don't run from these, but at least I've tried at least once previously.

No shame in trying.

To answer the original question:
I don't think there is enough endgame pvp because there is not enough people that have actually reached endgame. It's still some kind of meta pvp with a lot of unequal fights. When the top 100 or 200 are spread over 5lvls instead of 15, things are going to change hopefully. Looking forward to it.


PS: Paigrandes signature hurts my eyes b:cry

Ruby - Harshlands

Acrelar - Harshlands wrote: »

It's a game, everyone should enjoy it...don't go all emo over dieing, it's a freaking game, you win some you lose some.

I totally agree b:victory

XCyrusX - Harshlands

The drama of pvp servers interest me, makes you actually want to log back in sometimes. I cant imagine playing a fully pve game, no drama? no enemies? Balance is good, keeping the best of both worlds makes for a fun gaming experience. As long as the pvping isnt taken too very very very seriously. Like some lvl 3X veno that I hadnt pked but was redname and telling me "YOU MOTHER IS MY HOME" b:shocked

Loltank - Harshlands

XCyrusX - Harshlands wrote: »

Like some lvl 3X veno that I hadnt pked but was redname and telling me "YOU MOTHER IS MY HOME" b:shocked

I just laughed so hard I propelled milk out of my mouth and onto my monitor.


YOU MOTHER IS MY HOME

Faildom - Harshlands

RPK is ok as long as the opposition has got atleast a small chance to win, but for example xheart or something killing lvl 30-40s in SP is pretty fcked up ya

Caledfwlch - Harshlands

Player vs player, or PvP is type of multiplayer interaction within a game between two or more live participants. This is in contrast to games where players compete against computer controlled opponents, which is similarly referred to as player versus environment (PvE) or player versus monster (PvM); as such, the terms are most often used in games where both activities exist, particularly MMORPGs, MUDs and other computer role-playing games.

PvP can be broadly used to describe any game, or aspect of a game, where players compete against each other. This can include entire gaming genres, such as first-person shooters or real-time strategy games, or can be limited to an optional part of an otherwise PvE game. In computer role-playing games, PvP is often called player killing or PKing. PKing has taken on a negative tone as it is used almost entirely in cases where the combat was not consensual. The term PvP, and to a lesser extent PKing, has also been adopted in discussions about traditional role-playing games and live-action gaming, with approximately the same meaning.

Aeneas - Harshlands

Forget it.

You know what's killing this server? Not lowbies leaving, there are tons of lowbies. It's high levels getting so bored they're leaving. Whatever, the people who can fix that won't.

Delia - Harshlands

BelleFemme - Harshlands wrote: »

Random pking is fun and what not, yeah, but it's not fun to make it so someone can't do their quest or something and it makes them want to log. They just want to have fun playing the same game.

Camping SP is totally annoying. I sometimes go in there and stun whoever is camping it and tell the noobs to run and tell them to not listen to HistoryX run his failmouth... they never listen though. They just stand there. ><

Aeneas - Harshlands wrote: »

You know what's killing this server? ... It's high levels getting so bored they're leaving.

Quoted for truth.

I enjoy PvP. I'm not a fan of random-PKing, but that's just a personal preference. I have plenty of friends on this server who do. The PKing in Secret Passage, Hidden Orchid, and Orchid Temple often borders on griefing though (mostly in SP). Killing people repeatedly and preventing them from doing a quest is annoying. (And yes, most of the time I advise people to wait on the quest for a while. But often the people in secret passage aren't going to find another higher level to run their bosses anytime soon, so what goes on in their really can be a pain). When I can (which isn't all that often as people keep leveling while I only do CS now ) I try to free up SP a bit.

I do enjoy fighting red names though . And for those who insist otherwise: attacking red names is not random-PK (RPK). Random-PK is killing white names that aren't on KoS. Even if you're red from KoS, accept the responsibilities associated with that and should understand you'll be a target for neutral parties. Other guilds do not necessarily honor your KoS, and could consider the KoS to be glorified RPK. In any case, non-guildies have no way of knowing why you're red. Almost every red name says "oh, it was a friend" or "oh I was just messing around; it was an accident". Most are lying :P. Some aren't I'm sure. But if that's the case, they're welcome to sit in safe zone and wait out their time, or buy a doll and understand they might be killed.

Aeneas - Harshlands

You know I went to a couple of noob areas today and saw just a ton of blue name players. There are lots of new players on the server.

The people complaining about the server being "dead", the people I see quitting or simply playing much less in high proportion, the areas that are empty? It's the high-level areas.

This server isn't dying from the bottom up, it's the exact opposite.

Guardians - Harshlands

u see alot of blue names, but blue names arent the problems...who leaves are the ppl who just arrieved at lvl 30 and are pked alot of times... im not againt PK. why? coz this is a PvP server, and i join it for coz of that, but im against the ppl who pk the same player over and over again in 10, 20 minutes, and dont let them questing...

i like PKers... coz that way, i dont need to rpk, can just kill the ppl o pked me b4 and get my revenge after, and that make the game more interesting.

but thats for me...b:victory

Tryagain - Harshlands

Here's the problem

A few people with high level characters on LC that mostly all sucked at the game said PvE til 90. The game is much more fun at 90. The rest of us went along with this because hey, they had a high level character, so they knew better than us. Now that a bunch of other people are hitting 90, and they realize...wow, it's just as ****ty at 90 as the rest of the levels. PvP in this game sucks. It's mindless, takes no skill whatsoever, and is over in 10 seconds or less. To add to that, everyday I realize more and more how stacked this game is against all classes other than venos. My only motivation to play right now, is to level to 90, so I can take 2 hits from every class, instead of being a 1-shot. WOO HOO.

Intangible - Harshlands

The problem is that from 30-70 the penix ruled PvP. All the high levels now are used to getting solo'd in seconds by one and thus all think they can't win. Some have realized they're a joke at higher levels with skills and pots the only advantage they have is gone. However a lot of you still shake in your boots at the thought, so all the higher levels are killing lowbies instead of each other and the game is dying out because the high levels get bored of killing lowbies and leave.

HeavenzSky - Harshlands

PvP = Do What Ever The Fvck You Want.

XSucubusX - Harshlands

SO BASECALLY the reason so many high lv rpk lowlies is cos they stink vs their own lvs hehehe thats sooo cool ty guys that i will remember when i get pked why some dude at sp will lessen my grief heheb:victory

Aeneas - Harshlands

Tryagain - Harshlands wrote: »

Here's the problem

A few people with high level characters on LC that mostly all sucked at the game said PvE til 90. The game is much more fun at 90. The rest of us went along with this because hey, they had a high level character, so they knew better than us. Now that a bunch of other people are hitting 90, and they realize...wow, it's just as ****ty at 90 as the rest of the levels. PvP in this game sucks. It's mindless, takes no skill whatsoever, and is over in 10 seconds or less. To add to that, everyday I realize more and more how stacked this game is against all classes other than venos. My only motivation to play right now, is to level to 90, so I can take 2 hits from every class, instead of being a 1-shot. WOO HOO.

I heard you were a cool person so don't take this too much to heart but....

what you just said was stupid on multiple levels.

1- PvE to 90 defeats the entire concept of a PvP server. PvE servers have people who blue name grind to 90 then go white name. That's what Dreamweaver is for. The entire concept of a PvP server is you have to be white name at 30. PK begins there. This "PvE to 90" business was stupid and the first big step to making this server ****. Gratz KD and Crimson

2- Phoenixs are progressively less OP in big group settings. This servers aversion to anything bigger then 1v1 is precisely what makes fighting venos stupid.

3- Speaking of which, the only fights that are over in 10 seconds are 1v1s. If say KD or Crimson would actually show in force for big group battles (like 20v20) not only would the fight be a lot longer but it would be exponentially more tactical. Meeting a wizard and going seal, phys debuff, heaven spark, plume shot, is boring as **** for me too. I'm not a fan. Group tactics are what define this game and certain factions actively discourage or turn down the opportunity to exercise it.

4- Lastly, you shouldn't be a 1 shot as a cleric unless it's some stupid crazy crit.

Walterthewf - Harshlands

Aeneas - Harshlands wrote: »

I heard you were a cool person so don't take this too much to heart but....

what you just said was stupid on multiple levels.

1- PvE to 90 defeats the entire concept of a PvP server. PvE servers have people who blue name grind to 90 then go white name. That's what Dreamweaver is for. The entire concept of a PvP server is you have to be white name at 30. PK begins there. This "PvE to 90" business was stupid and the first big step to making this server ****. Gratz KD and Crimson

Let me point out a few things.

- The core of QQme are initiators of this PvE to 90, then the real PvP begins.
The problem is, they did this at a ridiculous rate that no one could compete with them as far as levels. (They were on Nei's level, which is ridiculous.)
I don't understand why they are credited with being the PKers of this server and saving it from it's PvE fate.
They PvE'd to 90 so fast and with their huge PvE advantage, they possessed enough skill and or items to destroy everyone. There was no chance for 99% of Kylin, Kingdom, and Crimson members to defend themselves.
So to counteract this, Crimson, Kylin, and Kingdom members were FORCED to PvE to 90. There was no reason to do this until the core of QQme raced to 90 (What your bitching about) then started to PvP everyone else.
There was zero chance 99% of the other 3 major guilds could ever compete. So guess what happened? QQme ****ed over this server and forced them to PvE till 90 to put up any sort of competition against the core of QQme. The 90 PKers that kill everyone and anything. Maybe if all the 90's PvPed each other decent PvP habbits would have been formed between everyone else. Too bad it is human nature to train to a point where defense of oneself is even to any degree possible.


Needless to say, your clan caused this **** of a server, now all of you please stfu and wait in your corner for it to fix itself.


Edit: For example, when I was level 77 and angeRR solo'd an 6 man butterfly party without taking a charm tick, I did not think, "Hey, he PKed me and had .01% chance to die! I'm going to go PK!"
I thought, "F-ck. I need to get to level 85+ at least to even have a 1% chance to kill him alone."

Waterboy - Lost City

Aeneas - Harshlands wrote: »

I heard you were a cool person so don't take this too much to heart but....

what you just said was stupid on multiple levels.

1- PvE to 90 defeats the entire concept of a PvP server. PvE servers have people who blue name grind to 90 then go white name. That's what Dreamweaver is for. The entire concept of a PvP server is you have to be white name at 30. PK begins there. This "PvE to 90" business was stupid and the first big step to making this server ****. Gratz KD and Crimson

dude ur lvl 89 1 lvl away from 90

what about the idk 5 or 6 9x's in QQme?

dont act like kingdom and crimson are the only ones at fault

Faildom - Harshlands

Walterthewf - Harshlands wrote: »

Let me point out a few things.

- The core of QQme are initiators of this PvE to 90, then the real PvP begins.
The problem is, they did this at a ridiculous rate that no one could compete with them as far as levels. (They were on Nei's level, which is ridiculous.)
I don't understand why they are credited with being the PKers of this server and saving it from it's PvE fate.
They PvE'd to 90 so fast and with their huge PvE advantage, they possessed enough skill and or items to destroy everyone. There was no chance for 99% of Kylin, Kingdom, and Crimson members to defend themselves.
So to counteract this, Crimson, Kylin, and Kingdom members were FORCED to PvE to 90. There was no reason to do this until the core of QQme raced to 90 (What your bitching about) then started to PvP everyone else.
There was zero chance 99% of the other 3 major guilds could ever compete. So guess what happened? QQme ****ed over this server and forced them to PvE till 90 to put up any sort of competition against the core of QQme. The 90 PKers that kill everyone and anything. Maybe if all the 90's PvPed each other decent PvP habbits would have been formed between everyone else. Too bad it is human nature to train to a point where defense of oneself is even to any degree possible.


Needless to say, your clan caused this **** of a server, now all of you please stfu and wait in your corner for it to fix itself.


Edit: For example, when I was level 77 and angeRR solo'd an 6 man butterfly party without taking a charm tick, I did not think, "Hey, he PKed me and had .01% chance to die! I'm going to go PK!"
I thought, "F-ck. I need to get to level 85+ at least to even have a 1% chance to kill him alone."

+1

10 char

Ajani - Harshlands

Aeneas - Harshlands wrote: »

I heard you were a cool person so don't take this too much to heart but....

what you just said was stupid on multiple levels.

1- PvE to 90 defeats the entire concept of a PvP server. PvE servers have people who blue name grind to 90 then go white name. That's what Dreamweaver is for. The entire concept of a PvP server is you have to be white name at 30. PK begins there. This "PvE to 90" business was stupid and the first big step to making this server ****. Gratz KD and Crimson

kkthkbay

Walterthewf - Harshlands wrote: »

Let me point out a few things.

- The core of QQme are initiators of this PvE to 90, then the real PvP begins.
The problem is, they did this at a ridiculous rate that no one could compete with them as far as levels. (They were on Nei's level, which is ridiculous.)
I don't understand why they are credited with being the PKers of this server and saving it from it's PvE fate.
They PvE'd to 90 so fast and with their huge PvE advantage, they possessed enough skill and or items to destroy everyone. There was no chance for 99% of Kylin, Kingdom, and Crimson members to defend themselves.
So to counteract this, Crimson, Kylin, and Kingdom members were FORCED to PvE to 90. There was no reason to do this until the core of QQme raced to 90 (What your bitching about) then started to PvP everyone else.
There was zero chance 99% of the other 3 major guilds could ever compete. So guess what happened? QQme ****ed over this server and forced them to PvE till 90 to put up any sort of competition against the core of QQme. The 90 PKers that kill everyone and anything. Maybe if all the 90's PvPed each other decent PvP habbits would have been formed between everyone else. Too bad it is human nature to train to a point where defense of oneself is even to any degree possible.


Needless to say, your clan caused this **** of a server, now all of you please stfu and wait in your corner for it to fix itself.


Edit: For example, when I was level 77 and angeRR solo'd an 6 man butterfly party without taking a charm tick, I did not think, "Hey, he PKed me and had .01% chance to die! I'm going to go PK!"
I thought, "F-ck. I need to get to level 85+ at least to even have a 1% chance to kill him alone."

+10000000000b:victory

Angerr - Harshlands

Walterthewf - Harshlands wrote: »

Let me point out a few things.

- The core of QQme are initiators of this PvE to 90, then the real PvP begins.
The problem is, they did this at a ridiculous rate that no one could compete with them as far as levels. (They were on Nei's level, which is ridiculous.)
I don't understand why they are credited with being the PKers of this server and saving it from it's PvE fate.
They PvE'd to 90 so fast and with their huge PvE advantage, they possessed enough skill and or items to destroy everyone. There was no chance for 99% of Kylin, Kingdom, and Crimson members to defend themselves.
So to counteract this, Crimson, Kylin, and Kingdom members were FORCED to PvE to 90. There was no reason to do this until the core of QQme raced to 90 (What your bitching about) then started to PvP everyone else.
There was zero chance 99% of the other 3 major guilds could ever compete. So guess what happened? QQme ****ed over this server and forced them to PvE till 90 to put up any sort of competition against the core of QQme. The 90 PKers that kill everyone and anything. Maybe if all the 90's PvPed each other decent PvP habbits would have been formed between everyone else. Too bad it is human nature to train to a point where defense of oneself is even to any degree possible.


Needless to say, your clan caused this **** of a server, now all of you please stfu and wait in your corner for it to fix itself.


Edit: For example, when I was level 77 and angeRR solo'd an 6 man butterfly party without taking a charm tick, I did not think, "Hey, he PKed me and had .01% chance to die! I'm going to go PK!"
I thought, "F-ck. I need to get to level 85+ at least to even have a 1% chance to kill him alone."

Well I PvPed the whole way up from 30 to 90, I know you started the server a bit later than everyone else but you can ask around. I was opposed to d5's PvE to 100 (btw yeah it was to 100) and so was nova.

Clickftw - Harshlands

Angerr - Harshlands wrote: »

Well I PvPed the whole way up from 30 to 90, I know you started the server a bit later than everyone else but you can ask around. I was opposed to d5's PvE to 100 (btw yeah it was to 100) and so was nova.

when me and nova used to grind foxies, he said he was gonna pve to 90 I thoughtb:shutup

Uiztrollin - Harshlands

Want the server to fix itself? Bring back another oracle event for people 30-75. Maybe there are a bunch of lvl 30s-40s that are afraid of spending money in scrolls/charms because they fear they won't be able to use it efficiently due to constant pking by the higher lvls. Maybe with an oracle event there can be more 6x, 7x people spawning around swamp, and giving more life to the server, and more competition in TW, grinding spots. etc.[

Aeneas - Harshlands

Waterboy - Lost City wrote: »

dude ur lvl 89 1 lvl away from 90

what about the idk 5 or 6 9x's in QQme?

dont act like kingdom and crimson are the only ones at fault

I didn't "PvE to 90"

When I hit level 30 my first faction, Onslaught, was KOS with Kingdom and Crimson. When I joined Mercenary we KOS'ed LastStand (that, by the way, was a fun KOS for both sides until KD and Crimson screwed it up). Heavenly KOSed Sin then Kylin. Then QQme.

I'm in the top 20 on the PvP list and it isnt from camping SP. Probably one of the rare few in the top 20 who got there not from camping SP. Plenty of people can probably atest to just how much time I spend PvPing.




Here. I'm going to let the server in on a secret. The reason QQme has outleveled the rest of the server? Shhhh.....it's a secret

it's because QQme PvPs and everyone else runs

Yes, that's right. Because QQme controls all the key grind spots, because QQme disrupts everyone elses grinding. Because no one else fights back.

QQme can grind for hours in peace at fish and no one will push them out. No one else can do that. That's why they have levels. It's not a carebear mentality, it's the exact opposite.


Crimson used to dominate the top 50 levels list. They dropped off when Pendelum/QQme started crashing zhens, grinds, etc and taking them over themselves. Now that QQme's KOS has dropped Crimson is creeping back up into the Top 50 levels list. Hmmmmm


So to reiterate
The reason QQme dominates leveling in a PvP server is because QQme actually engages in PvP

The rest of you are too dumb or too chicken to figure that out

Walterthewf - Harshlands

Aeneas - Harshlands wrote: »

I didn't "PvE to 90"

When I hit level 30 my first faction, Onslaught, was KOS with Kingdom and Crimson. When I joined Mercenary we KOS'ed LastStand (that, by the way, was a fun KOS for both sides until KD and Crimson screwed it up). Heavenly KOSed Sin then Kylin. Then QQme.

I'm in the top 20 on the PvP list and it isnt from camping SP. Probably one of the rare few in the top 20 who got there not from camping SP. Plenty of people can probably atest to just how much time I spend PvPing.




Here. I'm going to let the server in on a secret. The reason QQme has outleveled the rest of the server? Shhhh.....it's a secret

it's because QQme PvPs and everyone else runs

Yes, that's right. Because QQme controls all the key grind spots, because QQme disrupts everyone elses grinding. Because no one else fights back.

QQme can grind for hours in peace at fish and no one will push them out. No one else can do that. That's why they have levels. It's not a carebear mentality, it's the exact opposite.


Crimson used to dominate the top 50 levels list. They dropped off when Pendelum/QQme started crashing zhens, grinds, etc and taking them over themselves. Now that QQme's KOS has dropped Crimson is creeping back up into the Top 50 levels list. Hmmmmm


So to reiterate
The reason QQme dominates leveling in a PvP server is because QQme actually engages in PvP

The rest of you are too dumb or too chicken to figure that out

I think you misunderstand.

First off, Crimson fell off the rankings because everyone went inactive, but that's not the issue.

Anyways, I don't exactly blame QQme, but they "hardcored" it way to much.

I personally did not think it was to much, but I assume it is relative to the game you play what "hardcore' is...

That being said, in this specific game, no one else in the community could keep up with your leveling....which really wasn't that insane in speed...but relative to this server it was.

Either way, if you PKed at 30 and on your way to 90 or you didn't....

You got to 90+ long before anyone else and forced everyone to catch up...
This game's horrible PvP setup only helped you out. The only PvP other guilds could even contend in were PvE TWs...and even this contributed to the, 'We need to catch up in levels by the time QQme attacks us...everyone go xp to 90...'

And hey, this is why everyone quit Aenes who are considered "high levels"

They choose to pk together versus everyone else and now are bored to sh-t...and it forces the people who get rolled to get 90 to compete leaving a giant null.


It's pretty much your guild's fault.

I however don't think I can condemn you for expecting other people to be at least close to your level....considering you can actually move up the leveling rank list if you cube and daily every day with 0 grind..


As for your entire theory.
What part of, "They can't fight back because they have .01% chance to take down the opponent so they choose to xp"

Serisouly, if you can't win a fight, you run.

Everyone started to run AFTER your core group got to 90+ and everyone else HAD to run or attempt to fight and just get absolutely destroyed. It was fact. They had zero chance in a fight.

Okay, do you understand the timeline?

It does not matter if you PvP'd and XP'd.

You did the most "intrusion" in leveling when the fights were not fights. There was no chance to fight back.


And to sum it up, Aion comes out on September 1st.


(Yes, I realize I repeated the same points like 18 times in 1 single post.)

Aeneas - Harshlands

Walterthewf - Harshlands wrote: »

It's pretty much your guild's fault.

That's such revisionist bull****. Kingdom and Crimson from the very start had a "PvE to 90" mentality and explicitly told everyone. Icon's entire payout structure is premised on the idea that anything before 90 is irrelevant and Crimson explicitly said real PvP begins at 90. Don't act like this is some recent phenomenon.


QQme doesn't even dominate the levels anymore. Nothing will change though. So many of us have simply stopped caring. Gratz guys, you've literally bored us to death.

Walterthewf - Harshlands

Aeneas - Harshlands wrote: »

That's such revisionist bull****. Kingdom and Crimson from the very start had a "PvE to 90" mentality and explicitly told everyone. Icon's entire payout structure is premised on the idea that anything before 90 is irrelevant and Crimson explicitly said real PvP begins at 90. Don't act like this is some recent phenomenon.


QQme doesn't even dominate the levels anymore. Nothing will change though. So many of us have simply stopped caring. Gratz guys, you've literally bored us to death.

You are seriously getting thick-headed.
There was no "PvE to 90" concept.
There was, try to level guys.

But given time, healthy PvP habits would have established when fair fights could ensue. It is just human nature.

Too bad a dominant third party constricted all of these habbits with superior levels, forcing everyone else to level to what level the core of QQme choose to stop at.
There ensues the whole, "Everyone go PvE to 90"
It started when QQme stopped at 90 and went berserk on everyone who had zero chance to defend themselves.


We've bored you to death.
What the hell do you expect?

When I pk'd people at level 82 I got bored as ****.
Many of you have been 90+ for long before that.

Do you honestely expect hordes of 6-8x people to get slaughtered by you and keep comming back over and over again?

Get a f-cking clue about what's going on around you.

No sh-t the people that leveled really fast will quit. There is no challenge.
The levels just do not exist. Ofc there gonna be "bored to death"

Just learn one thing, this does not happen because we CHOOSE to PvE. It's because your **** advantage in this horrible PvP structure FORCE them to go catch up.

Get it? It's not complicated.


"QQme doesn't even dominate the levels anymore."

Guess what happens when people PvE!
They can actually catch up.

Hey, btw does "QQme doesn't even dominate the levels anymore." contradict your whole "PvP is how you XP" considering QQme has been PKing a lot more often now as opposed to before where they XP'd 90% of the day, owned 20 Crimson and made a thread then went back to XPing.
Just saying, it seems to contradict what you said before. Ya' know?

Aeneas - Harshlands

Walterthewf - Harshlands wrote: »

Guess what happens when people PvE!
They can actually catch up.

But they still won't PK. It's not QQme's fault, it's a server dominated by Dreamweaver factions fault.

Hey, btw does "QQme doesn't even dominate the levels anymore." contradict your whole "PvP is how you XP" considering QQme has been PKing a lot more often now as opposed to before where they XP'd 90% of the day, owned 20 Crimson and made a thread then went back to XPing.
Just saying, it seems to contradict what you said before. Ya' know?

Of course not. The best PK was when QQme first started vs Crimson. Before QQme dominated in levels. QQme won, ran Crimson off the world map, and had no choice but to grind all day because they had nothing better to do. They hit 90, reached that milestone, STILL nothing to do. Got bored, stop leveling, others caught up STILL nothing to do.

We don't spend so much more time PvPing. There is no PvP. Most of us dont even bother logging on much anymore.