Which class is the hardest/takes most skill in PVP

Rickrollled - Heavens Tear
Rickrollled - Heavens Tear Posts: 20 Arc User
edited June 2009 in Twilight Temple (West)
Title says it all...May aswell start another thread.

So tell me which do you think is and why?

I personally think barbs/bms, due to the fact that they're meele and vs other classes they aren't as good because of kiting. Even with stun lock.
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  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    veno with phoenix. definitely. i have to click the person, then click the pet attack button. oh and i guess i cast spells sometimes too but usually i'm lazy.
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  • Rinnve - Lost City
    Rinnve - Lost City Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Blademasters and wizards. Both are about precise timing, bms for stunlock, wizards for releasing proper spells in proper time. Barbs are way easier IMO 'cause of their hp.
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  • JohntheFlash - Lost City
    JohntheFlash - Lost City Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »
    veno with phoenix. definitely. i have to click the person, then click the pet attack button. oh and i guess i cast spells sometimes too but usually i'm lazy.
    Damn, that sounds tough. I'm glad I didn't choose Veno-there's way too many things you have to think about during PvP.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »
    veno with phoenix. definitely. i have to click the person, then click the pet attack button. oh and i guess i cast spells sometimes too but usually i'm lazy.

    Yup, that is major skill for you!

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  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Rinnve - Lost City wrote: »
    Blademasters and wizards. Both are about precise timing, bms for stunlock, wizards for releasing proper spells in proper time. Barbs are way easier IMO 'cause of their hp.

    This.
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  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    JohntheFlash - Lost City wrote: »
    Damn, that sounds tough. I'm glad I didn't choose Veno-there's way too many things you have to think about during PvP.

    oh and if i don't want to pvp, i don't think anyone could catch me either, i'm a good runquick member.

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  • Arravis - Lost City
    Arravis - Lost City Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Rinnve - Lost City wrote: »
    Blademasters and wizards. Both are about precise timing, bms for stunlock, wizards for releasing proper spells in proper time. Barbs are way easier IMO 'cause of their hp.

    I agree 50/50. Blademasters have to be very skilled at timing to get their stuns right and other spark-usages. Wizards have to plan out which skills to use at which time, due to the complicated channeling...They'll only get a few shots before an enemy starts pummeling them.

    But pking as a Barbarian isn't really EASY. It's EASY to survive, but killing is a different story. Unless you're going to farm chi and just hope your Perdition 1-shots your target every time, HP won't matter as much as your damage (and accuraccy is a pain in the buttocks to worry about...)
  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Arravis - Lost City wrote: »
    But pking as a Barbarian isn't really EASY. It's EASY to survive, but killing is a different story. Unless you're going to farm chi and just hope your Perdition 1-shots your target every time, HP won't matter as much as your damage (and accuraccy is a pain in the buttocks to worry about...)

    You have a point, but you do have to consider the fact that that massive amount of HP gives you a lot more chances to kill. When you can take 10k damage before your heiro ticks, it's pretty damn hard to kill you before you kill us
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  • Arravis - Lost City
    Arravis - Lost City Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Nakhimov - Lost City wrote: »
    You have a point, but you do have to consider the fact that that massive amount of HP gives you a lot more chances to kill. When you can take 10k damage before your heiro ticks, it's pretty damn hard to kill you before you kill us

    10k damage before my charm ticks? 20k HP is only a dream for me. Doubt I'll ever get that far.

    I have mentioned this many times before, but I don't feel a barbarian is meant to be 1 v 1 killed. It's the game's tank, after all... But there are still a number of ways to kill a barb solo, which makes it fair. And to be honest, the only times a Barbarian will kill someone is when either they get lucky on chained crits/zerks/stuns, or when their opponent is stupid enough to think they can tank a tank.
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Arravis - Lost City wrote: »
    10k damage before my charm ticks? 20k HP is only a dream for me. Doubt I'll ever get that far.

    I have mentioned this many times before, but I don't feel a barbarian is meant to be 1 v 1 killed. It's the game's tank, after all... But there are still a number of ways to kill a barb solo, which makes it fair. And to be honest, the only times a Barbarian will kill someone is when either they get lucky on chained crits/zerks/stuns, or when their opponent is stupid enough to think they can tank a tank.

    agreed :)

    I haven't played other classes, but I can tell you that pking as a wiz is a pain.. Unless the person I'm going for is a total fail.. I'll generally need to use a two spark skill to take them down. Unlike other squishy's (clerics/archers/ maybe venos) wizards have the least survivability and are like tissue paper to any class. I'd say wizards are great at ganking... the unsuspecting prey will generally be dead before they can get to me.. but if they are going for me... gotta kite which gives them a chance for a charm to tick :(
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  • Rakthor - Lost City
    Rakthor - Lost City Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I like playing a barb, but I don't really like the fact that we have to rely on stun/zerk/crit to kill an opponent, or the only easy kill is a stupid one. I'd rather role as a BM when PvPing.
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  • syl
    syl Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Rinnve - Lost City wrote: »
    Blademasters and wizards. Both are about precise timing, bms for stunlock, wizards for releasing proper spells in proper time. Barbs are way easier IMO 'cause of their hp.

    For the lower lvls, i agree that wizard is one of the harder classes to pvp with. However, wizards are the best pkers (even better then a bugged nix) at endgame. With the + earth barrier book, A robe wiz phy def rivals that of a 90 LA mage. And with +'d out the **** gear, their hp is high enough to where 1.8k/sec bleed doesn't even matter. Not only that, they can throw some pretty devastating skills and crits and with genie's elemental weakness and undine strike>>GG. ofc that's endgame though, b4 that wiz's are considered to be on the weaker side of pvp.
  • Jrudora - Lost City
    Jrudora - Lost City Posts: 445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    syl wrote: »
    For the lower lvls, i agree that wizard is one of the harder classes to pvp with. However, wizards are the best pkers (even better then a bugged nix) at endgame. With the + earth barrier book, A robe wiz phy def rivals that of a 90 LA mage. And with +'d out the **** gear, their hp is high enough to where 1.8k/sec bleed doesn't even matter. Not only that, they can throw some pretty devastating skills and crits and with genie's elemental weakness and undine strike>>GG. ofc that's endgame though, b4 that wiz's are considered to be on the weaker side of pvp.

    I'll half agree... :p
    My HH90 set isn't complete yet, but with buffs I can reach 5k defence.
    That's still quite far off from LA HH90 mage's defence.
    But... its still pretty smexy. 58% phys def is great =p
    And since almost any skill I throw does a massive amount of damage (since the starters are now level 11) sutra combos are simple to pull off.
    I don't even bother remembering a combo, I'd just use whatever skills aren't on cooldown.. doesn't matter :p they all hurt!

    But even with all that, theres a lot of timing involved, especially with distance shrink. Its important to use the skill only when needed, same with FoW, because if both of them are on cooldown, its one dead mage.

    I might want to get saporific(sp?) whisper after all.
  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Jrudora - Lost City wrote: »
    I'll half agree... :p
    My HH90 set isn't complete yet, but with buffs I can reach 5k defence.
    That's still quite far off from LA HH90 mage's defence.
    But... its still pretty smexy. 58% phys def is great =p
    And since almost any skill I throw does a massive amount of damage (since the starters are now level 11) sutra combos are simple to pull off.
    I don't even bother remembering a combo, I'd just use whatever skills aren't on cooldown.. doesn't matter :p they all hurt!

    But even with all that, theres a lot of timing involved, especially with distance shrink. Its important to use the skill only when needed, same with FoW, because if both of them are on cooldown, its one dead mage.

    I might want to get saporific(sp?) whisper after all.

    hh90 != endgame for a lot of people.
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  • Jrudora - Lost City
    Jrudora - Lost City Posts: 445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    True.
    There's a mage on the chinese server who posts a lot of videos on his TWs, that I've been following. If i recall, his physical defence with buffs is around 14k, and magic defence around 12k. If that's what is being mentioned, then yeah, robe's phys def can definitely match LA's.

    Not to mention he has 9.1k hp with Barb's buffs... scary.
    But its rank 8 weapon with crazy gear. Stuff that would take years to accomplish here.
  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Jrudora - Lost City wrote: »
    True.
    There's a mage on the chinese server who posts a lot of videos on his TWs, that I've been following. If i recall, his physical defence with buffs is around 14k, and magic defence around 12k. If that's what is being mentioned, then yeah, robe's phys def can definitely match LA's.

    Not to mention he has 9.1k hp with Barb's buffs... scary.
    But its rank 8 weapon with crazy gear. Stuff that would take years to accomplish here.

    if rank candy was in the cash shop we'd have a few rank 8 weapons on the server in a matter of days.

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  • syl
    syl Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »

    <3 being a veno, purge > your buffed stats

    i heard somewhere that archers can debuff also
  • Breadbun - Lost City
    Breadbun - Lost City Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    BM's...By far.
  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    syl wrote: »
    i heard somewhere that archers can debuff also

    so can a 10x wb with lots of chrono pages
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  • syl
    syl Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »
    so can a 10x wb with lots of chrono pages

    nuu where are these people when i'm trying to kill ape in 2-2,2-3
  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    syl wrote: »
    nuu where are these people when i'm trying to kill ape in 2-2,2-3

    ballin was buying chrono pages yesterday, you should talk to him
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  • syl
    syl Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »
    ballin was buying chrono pages yesterday, you should talk to him

    he's going for ancestral rage i'm sure....but if he does get the debuff then....gg lol

    20% chance is hardly worth the chrono pages imo

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