VIT capping
Axemanek - Heavens Tear
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Hey
As you can see i am a level 53 BM, and i go by the axe build, so every level i go 3 str, 1 vit, 1 dex
currently including boost from equipment i have 82 vit, when should i stop?
As you can see i am a level 53 BM, and i go by the axe build, so every level i go 3 str, 1 vit, 1 dex
currently including boost from equipment i have 82 vit, when should i stop?
I Want To Eat Estasi & Send Her Into Extasy!! b:victory
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U should stop now with the vit. Now my vit for a lve78BM is 67 and all the spar points on dex thats wat i did.0
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Rockyk - Heavens Tear wrote: »U should stop now with the vit. Now my vit for a lve78BM is 67 and all the spar points on dex thats wat i did.
so i should not add any more? i love the high hpI Want To Eat Estasi & Send Her Into Extasy!! b:victory
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I capped at 30 Vit, and I have exactly 4k HP -3 :P0
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I don't cap my vit.
I have around 150ish vit.
Although im not adding more now (going between dex/str)
I prefer to beable to tank 3-4 people my lvl and still fight.b:cute
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Don't cap your vit.... you'll need it. Restat when you hit 80+.0
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At 79 currently my stats are (with all items equipped)......
str-251
dex-92
vit-85
Going to be putting 3dex per 2str in for my next 10 or so levels so I can equip the hh90 whenever I get there. The accuracy thing is starting to get on my nerves though. It's too low. Definitely going for a misty forest ring pretty quick.0 -
I don't cap my vit.
I have around 150ish vit.
Although im not adding more now (going between dex/str)
I prefer to beable to tank 3-4 people my lvl and still fight.
That's a really high vit, I'm curious as to how good the accuracy is though with less dex. There are the Misty Forest rings but does that still help enough? I was planning on making more of a vit build with this character and I'm really curious as to how the accuracy rating is worked with. I haven't seen too much info on high vit builds in the BM guides.0 -
You need the STR and DEX to kill things quicker. You're a BM; you're not supposed to be the MT. That's a Barb's job. At higher levels with better gear, you still don't need the CON because you'll have all the HP you'll ever need from your gear. You'll be able to solo the highest FBs with only 3 points in CON (as in the base 3 that you can't remove).
CON is seriously gimped.0 -
You need the STR and DEX to kill things quicker. You're a BM; you're not supposed to be the MT. That's a Barb's job. At higher levels with better gear, you still don't need the CON because you'll have all the HP you'll ever need from your gear. You'll be able to solo the highest FBs with only 3 points in CON (as in the base 3 that you can't remove).
CON is seriously gimped.
It all depends how you want to play, you can't just tell them "This is how you're supposed to play this class." I for one haven't capped my vit yet, level 70, I put 3 str, 1 vit, 1 dex.0 -
You need the STR and DEX to kill things quicker. You're a BM; you're not supposed to be the MT. That's a Barb's job. At higher levels with better gear, you still don't need the CON because you'll have all the HP you'll ever need from your gear. You'll be able to solo the highest FBs with only 3 points in CON (as in the base 3 that you can't remove).
CON is seriously gimped.
As I told you in my guide, this version is different from what you're used to.
On topic:
The amount of VIT one will have totally depends on the equipment, and the server you play at.
While it sounds good to cap it at 50 base VIT, not all the people are able to get good equipment, and they end up having 4k hp at level 80 or 5k at level 90, which is pretty low and more likely a one-shot in a PvP server.
So as long as one has a good amount of HP for the level, then VIT can be cappped.0 -
oh well, i will just continue with 3 str, 1 vit, 1 dex until i hit 70 and get some decent HP gearI Want To Eat Estasi & Send Her Into Extasy!! b:victory
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as long as your accuracy is high enough that you don't miss too often i would recommend never capping vit. the hp helps against every type of enemy mag or phys, you can get equips that add to accuracy, and as far as evasion goes it only helps against phys enemy.0
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Lyndura - Lost City wrote: »As I told you in my guide, this version is different from what you're used to.
On topic:
The amount of VIT one will have totally depends on the equipment, and the server you play at.
While it sounds good to cap it at 50 base VIT, not all the people are able to get good equipment, and they end up having 4k hp at level 80 or 5k at level 90, which is pretty low and more likely a one-shot in a PvP server.
So as long as one has a good amount of HP for the level, then VIT can be cappped.
Agree. I play on a PVP server, and having low HP, and low magic defense means that if I don't get the jump on anyone most likely I am dead. My HP are pretty low for how much vit I have though. I am still working on my end game gear and what I think I will want at this level. Right now I have about 5400hp (lvl 80). Soon to be a bit more once I hit 81 because I made myself a kickass 3* helmet with 4 sockets, and +120hp and +200 something water and metal resists. The one I have now isn't even close to that. This new one will add approx 250-300 more HP to my tally. Also going to make myself a new chest because all the green, and yellow chests kind of suck, or are too hard to get.0 -
Aragorn raises a point, but every BM i know has capped their vit @ either 30 or 50.
Axe BMs go 50 (maybe pole also)
All else, go 30.
This leaves you to choose between str and dex (I say go dex, but alot go str)
L8r on, your gear should give you all the HP you need and then you will hate yourself for having such high hp, but not being able to kill anything.0 -
Axemanek - Heavens Tear wrote: »oh well, i will just continue with 3 str, 1 vit, 1 dex until i hit 70 and get some decent HP gear
Your Vit is fine. If you want more dex, cut back to 1 vit every other level. Personally, I would keep adding Vit. you can never go wrong with more survivability.
Do something like a 6str/3dex/1vit every other level.
its a thought at leastDon't let my level confuse you. I've done this before.
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DishyWiggles - Harshlands wrote: »Aragorn raises a point, but every BM i know has capped their vit @ either 30 or 50.
Axe BMs go 50 (maybe pole also)
All else, go 30.
This leaves you to choose between str and dex (I say go dex, but alot go str)
L8r on, your gear should give you all the HP you need and then you will hate yourself for having such high hp, but not being able to kill anything.
You don't know what you're talking about.0 -
bms are a support class. if u are a vit build u have the hp to tank magic class's wich alows u to stun lock them. a bm can do some good damage dont get me wrong but endgame we honistly are the best support class in game. i keep my str maxed with my axes though i use reset scrolls every time i get a new wep but i caped my dex at 100 for acc and crit i have ly and have 2k acc wich is pleanty my vit is 160 ish as well with my refined gears with full hh 90 ill have 8.5-9k hp unbuffed atm with 79 molders i have 6.7 the mopre hp a bm has the more he can tank focus fire and if u are a good bm u will be focused alot so if u fell that u should cap vit hope to see u in pvp soon. also my opp on dex is this what rather u have a bm that crits high and will kill more 1v1 or to play your class wich u take a bm and any other class u will do well in pvp i dont crit as much but the 2-3% cirt i miss from low dex is 2 or 3 hits from a dd that i live longer to do my job i have played server sence day 1 made a few class's as well played pwm i alwas come back to my bm. but yea i only have probs with 89+ venos 1v1 there hell skill makes your pdef 0 so even the nix hits 2k but any way its up to u 2-3% crit or 2-3 more hits i chouse to live and play my class to the fullist if i was a sword or fist warrior it be a diff story ty have a nice day darkosirisb:chuckle0
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ok check it out what im trying to stay is in mass pvp as a bm u are stunning ppl wile taking damage as well and if u are a dex build u might never even make it to your target in TW wich is my thing bms are the frontlines u stun so the catas can push inbase u are focused BIG TIME if u have no vit how the hell u going to stun and get the catas in ? dex wont help u there a bm in tw is ment to stun make it back to stun again we dont have dex builds ever on the front lines. ok 1 mnore thing ppl will say oo just go dex then refine ok 1 prob is u refine to +6-8 u might have 8k hp unbuffed but if u were a vit build with 6-8 refine u will have something like 11k unbuffed then u get bairb buff and u have 13k hp a bm with 13k hp wont die easly be like fighting a bairb with mass stun skills and a amp skill
that be me b:cute 0 -
Baddie u should not talk any more everDishyWiggles - Harshlands wrote: »Aragorn raises a point, but every BM i know has capped their vit @ either 30 or 50.
Axe BMs go 50 (maybe pole also)
All else, go 30.
This leaves you to choose between str and dex (I say go dex, but alot go str)
L8r on, your gear should give you all the HP you need and then you will hate yourself for having such high hp, but not being able to kill anything.0 -
DishyWiggles - Harshlands wrote: »Aragorn raises a point, but every BM i know has capped their vit @ either 30 or 50.
Axe BMs go 50 (maybe pole also)
All else, go 30.
This leaves you to choose between str and dex (I say go dex, but alot go str)
L8r on, your gear should give you all the HP you need and then you will hate yourself for having such high hp, but not being able to kill anything.
LOL so terribly wrong i can't help but flame on you to, vit is necessary for bm's, a bm with no vit is not wanted. yes you can get high hp with just refining your gear, but if you can get higher then that isn't that better? i will never cap my vit its a terrible idea, when im in a party and the barb fails, which seems to be happening more and more as i get higher level, i am able to tank until a: the boss dies, or b: the barb gets a res and finally pulls agro from me. bm is a support class, we support "everyone". go back to the wizzie forum with the other squishies0 -
DishyWiggles - Harshlands wrote: »Aragorn raises a point, but every BM i know has capped their vit @ either 30 or 50.
Axe BMs go 50 (maybe pole also)
All else, go 30.
This leaves you to choose between str and dex (I say go dex, but alot go str)
L8r on, your gear should give you all the HP you need and then you will hate yourself for having such high hp, but not being able to kill anything.
DishyWiggles I agree with you. I know alot go much higher in Vit, but being a dex built sword bm I leave myself at around 25 and will take it all out at 90.
That could work w/out being a one shot by far as long as somebody is willing to work hard on thier endgame gear to give them the boost in HP they need.
Lindura, i'm sorry but your an arrogant dumbass. Stop acting like you know everything.0 -
CJ7 - Sanctuary wrote: »LOL so terribly wrong i can't help but flame on you to, vit is necessary for bm's, a bm with no vit is not wanted. yes you can get high hp with just refining your gear, but if you can get higher then that isn't that better? i will never cap my vit its a terrible idea, when im in a party and the barb fails, which seems to be happening more and more as i get higher level, i am able to tank until a: the boss dies, or b: the barb gets a res and finally pulls agro from me. bm is a support class, we support "everyone". go back to the wizzie forum with the other squishies
Read my post above.
High Vit is simply a preference and helpful in survivability, can definately be made up if you prefer to have more DPS in crit or STR. You're on a PvE server, Dishy is on a PvP keep that in mind.0 -
um lol lin and i are axe bms but as a sword user u stell need vit :P 25 is a lil low but like i say im axe idk but we need no name calling :P ppl read my post on page 2 it will help u if u are a axe warrior then rate it and repost no noobies plz not a lower lvl but stupid ppl0
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Maddrox - Harshlands wrote: »Read my post above.
High Vit is simply a preference and helpful in survivability, can definately be made up if you prefer to have more DPS in crit or STR. You're on a PvE server, Dishy is on a PvP keep that in mind.
unfortunately for myself when i started playing this game i had no idea what pvp was, so i started playing on the default server which just so happened to be sanctuary. when i got up a little in level and started to find out "hey pvp is awesome" i've been in pk mode constantly, that is as close as it gets to pvp here. but why does server type matter more then having a high level toon with lots of experience in game?. there is only a few people on this entire server that can kill me 1 vs 1, they are all 89 plus. yes i die all the time, but usually its while getting nuked by an archer and a wiz with a nix thrown in to **** me off a little. if my opinion still doesn't matter good luck with your non vit build, don't die too fast ok.
back to the original point of this post though, "vit is always good", no matter who or what you are fighting vit can help you.0 -
CJ7 - Sanctuary wrote: »unfortunately for myself when i started playing this game i had no idea what pvp was, so i started playing on the default server which just so happened to be sanctuary. when i got up a little in level and started to find out "hey pvp is awesome" i've been in pk mode constantly, that is as close as it gets to pvp here. but why does server type matter more then having a high level toon with lots of experience in game?. there is only a few people on this entire server that can kill me 1 vs 1, they are all 89 plus. yes i die all the time, but usually its while getting nuked by an archer and a wiz with a nix thrown in to **** me off a little. if my opinion still doesn't matter good luck with your non vit build, don't die too fast ok.
back to the original point of this post though, "vit is always good", no matter who or what you are fighting vit can help you.
Yeah, i'm sorry to hear that you learned about pvp late .. >.<
I meant that by being in a PvE server, people would be built more for PvE. Requires alot more HP than raw power in more cases than not. (Purely speculation but makes sense). HP from Vit doesn't makee too much of a difference, and it doesn't makee good enough of a diff in my case sacrificing a good 3-5% in crit or more for maybe 1.5k-2k hp. Spending either $ or time making $ ingame for the +'s and just even G6-7 hp shards could can easily makee up that difference and more. At 90 if I was to pull out all my Vit(23 total from att. points) I would still have a little over 30 vit just from my gear. Bringing me to about 8k HP with my build and starting on my gear right now.
It's Doable, especiallly with more DPS and pvp. Sure I won't be able to tank some of the bosses, but I will still be able to tank alot.
Your opinion does matter of course, just some people seem very closeed minded and ignorant to other possibilities and builds.0 -
with no buffs and no gear i have 4020 base hp at level 85, with base stats of 103 vit, 212 str, 122 dex, and of course the very important 3 mag. but we all wear gear right? with my gear i have stats of 162 vit, 238 str, and 129 dex, my hp is 7020 unbuffed and 9126 with a max barb hp buff. if i went with a vit cap of 50 my hp would be lower by 795 points. up to you if that is enough to make you cap your vit. for me that 795 points in hp has saved me from using a GA many many times0
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If I start to have issues I will either do major upgrades to my gear (I have somewhat over 4K w/ my gear on) or keep a little bit more in my Vit and not take out what I havee at 90. If I wouldn't that would be plain stupid^^. As of right now, most 8X archers have trouble getting past my charm in PK and of course all the other classes. Of course except for 8X Wiz/Cleric with goood gear. But things will change once I get my endgame gear, and of course I won't be able to beat everybody. But I'll be happy with what i've done thus far and what I can accomplish. ^^0
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The level 7x BM and the level 4x Wizard know what they are talking about, everyone should go with low VIT.
Now, seriously....
1.- I'm not Axe BM.
2.- 8k HP at level 9x is still pretty low, considering that now that genies came out 9x classes like Wizards or Archers are hiting up to 12~15k criticals in PvP against BM's and Barbarians (that is in here Lost City).
3.- I'm a DEX build myself and I still know the importance of VIT, and a build with low VIT is no possible anymore unless the refinement goes up to +8~10, even then VIT gives a pretty good boost using 5% HP necklaces and Barbarian buff.
Because yeah, all the buffs/% increases, etc just are affected by our base attributes. That is a very important factor that affects many things.0 -
miss hap sorry0
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DarkOsiris - Lost City wrote: »i thoguh u were a axe but by saying i dont know what im talking about is stupid ill **** u any day id put 5 mil on it we can have ppl watch and ill give the money to a holder up front and ill show u what i know. im not the best by far but i know what the hell im doing i have 3 8x chars and my bm is almsot 90 so if u wana go lets do this any time any place any were u made it on my personal kos i can kill a bm wo a genie befor and now i rock bms im soooo looking forword to see u in pvp
Where did I say that you don't know what you're talking about? o.O
But if you want to fight, sure, give me 5 free million coins, lol. What about right now? I'm in 1k.
EDIT: He apologized, just a misunderstood.0
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