All The Archers

rufflez123
rufflez123 Posts: 6 Arc User
edited May 2009 in Dawnglory (EU)
so im starting an archer and im just wondering which skills i should lvl for pvp and if someone could tell me which skills is good for which class tyb:victory
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  • Eragon - Harshlands
    Eragon - Harshlands Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    ok I'll give it a whirl. First off, your support skills. Bow Mastery and Winged Blessing are obvious, and Winged shell and Wings of Grace are used to suck up damage/prevent stun.
    Ok ill list some skills for each class.
    Blademaster- If they gank you, throw up WOG RIGHT AWAY, if not, then good go, after that just kite the **** outa them, using thunder shock and lightning strike, try to refrain from using 44 thunder skill, as it takes along time. If you attack them first, use stunning arrow, or maybe aim low. then use normal attacks (maybe) untill they get to you, then nuke them wiuth thunder attacks.

    Barbarian- Stay away from these. It will be a stalemate, and nothing else.

    Venomancer- Venos without nixes, are essentialy easy meat for everyone, you can use a wide variety of skills. Aim low, stunning arrow, deadly shot, and if your weapon is good, take aim as an opener.

    Cleric- Clerics to archers, are as easy as it gets. aim low +normal attacks, or spark erupt+normal attacks. Either method will get the job done.

    Mage- Essentialy, see cleric.

    Archer- fighting your own class, just use stunning arrow, aim low, wog, winged shell and it should be fine.

    Notes: quickshot can be used as a quick chi builder also, but when pking, essentialy trust your instincts and do what reaction tells you to do, and you should do fine, and dont except to be great right away, it takes practice :)
    Wonhalt
  • Waterboy - Lost City
    Waterboy - Lost City Posts: 405 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Eragon - Harshlands wrote: »
    ok I'll give it a whirl. First off, your support skills. Bow Mastery and Winged Blessing are obvious, and Winged shell and Wings of Grace are used to suck up damage/prevent stun.
    Ok ill list some skills for each class.
    Blademaster- If they gank you, throw up WOG RIGHT AWAY, if not, then good go, after that just kite the **** outa them, using thunder shock and lightning strike, try to refrain from using 44 thunder skill, as it takes along time. If you attack them first, use stunning arrow, or maybe aim low. then use normal attacks (maybe) untill they get to you, then nuke them wiuth thunder attacks.

    Barbarian- Stay away from these. It will be a stalemate, and nothing else.

    Venomancer- Venos without nixes, are essentialy easy meat for everyone, you can use a wide variety of skills. Aim low, stunning arrow, deadly shot, and if your weapon is good, take aim as an opener.

    Cleric- Clerics to archers, are as easy as it gets. aim low +normal attacks, or spark erupt+normal attacks. Either method will get the job done.

    Mage- Essentialy, see cleric.

    Archer- fighting your own class, just use stunning arrow, aim low, wog, winged shell and it should be fine.

    Notes: quickshot can be used as a quick chi builder also, but when pking, essentialy trust your instincts and do what reaction tells you to do, and you should do fine, and dont except to be great right away, it takes practice :)


    u ever think of a cleric poppin a plume shield? a mage blinkin away? ur stun missin? the veno bein a different build(rober/la/ha)?
  • meaangirl
    meaangirl Posts: 321 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Eragon - Harshlands wrote: »
    ok I'll give it a whirl. First off, your support skills. Bow Mastery and Winged Blessing are obvious, and Winged shell and Wings of Grace are used to suck up damage/prevent stun.
    Ok ill list some skills for each class.
    Blademaster- If they gank you, throw up WOG RIGHT AWAY, if not, then good go, after that just kite the **** outa them, using thunder shock and lightning strike, try to refrain from using 44 thunder skill, as it takes along time. If you attack them first, use stunning arrow, or maybe aim low. then use normal attacks (maybe) untill they get to you, then nuke them wiuth thunder attacks.

    Barbarian- Stay away from these. It will be a stalemate, and nothing else.

    Venomancer- Venos without nixes, are essentialy easy meat for everyone, you can use a wide variety of skills. Aim low, stunning arrow, deadly shot, and if your weapon is good, take aim as an opener.

    Cleric- Clerics to archers, are as easy as it gets. aim low +normal attacks, or spark erupt+normal attacks. Either method will get the job done.

    Mage- Essentialy, see cleric.

    Archer- fighting your own class, just use stunning arrow, aim low, wog, winged shell and it should be fine.

    Notes: quickshot can be used as a quick chi builder also, but when pking, essentialy trust your instincts and do what reaction tells you to do, and you should do fine, and dont except to be great right away, it takes practice :)

    I detect no bias here. Please continue.
  • Eragon - Harshlands
    Eragon - Harshlands Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    meaangirl wrote: »
    I detect no bias here. Please continue.

    Thanks you, I will now.
    u ever think of a cleric poppin a plume shield? a mage blinkin away? ur stun missin? the veno bein a different build(rober/la/ha)?

    cleric pop a plume shield then stun the dude and hit it till it goes away, grats, a plume shell only last 1-2 hits and aborbs 75% :O

    The veno with la basicaly can still use the same thing to kill it, I mean..yea...

    Heavy veno then just well, stun+lightning or whatever floats your boat.


    Now stop trying to tell me im wrong when your posting on a lvl 1 char.
    Wonhalt
  • heartless888
    heartless888 Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Eragon - Harshlands wrote: »
    Thanks you, I will now.



    cleric pop a plume shield then stun the dude and hit it till it goes away, grats, a plume shell only last 1-2 hits and aborbs 75% :O

    The veno with la basicaly can still use the same thing to kill it, I mean..yea...

    Heavy veno then just well, stun+lightning or whatever floats your boat.


    Now stop trying to tell me im wrong when your posting on a lvl 1 char.



    except you ARE wrong


    normal attacks on a BM? the class with the highest phy def ingame?


    cleric's shell absorb 80% not 75% and it goes away in 1-2 hits? no, in world pvp they can shell and it wont even go away and lasts its full 20 seconds due to MP charms and them having insane amount of mana


    as for barbs, if you do use your sparks for stuff like aim low you wont ever have the DD to kill them, now if you double spark and toss in 6k crits (80+) you got a shot. a good one, but you need to have the jump



    so yeah
  • HeavenzSky - Harshlands
    HeavenzSky - Harshlands Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Archers FTW, everyone else GTFO.
  • Waterboy - Lost City
    Waterboy - Lost City Posts: 405 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Eragon - Harshlands wrote: »
    Thanks you, I will now.



    cleric pop a plume shield then stun the dude and hit it till it goes away, grats, a plume shell only last 1-2 hits and aborbs 75% :O

    The veno with la basicaly can still use the same thing to kill it, I mean..yea...

    Heavy veno then just well, stun+lightning or whatever floats your boat.


    Now stop trying to tell me im wrong when your posting on a lvl 1 char.

    1. hp charms on a cleric o.o? after a tick a smart cleric pops a shield
    2. plume shield and winged shield r completely different ws-gone in 1-2 in pvp
    ps-gone in 20 seconds and heartless told u the 80% thing
    3.u know every venos build in HL that u will pvp and what type they weak against? b:chuckle
    4. im lvl 3 tard(it clearly says it on the avatar)

    b:byeb:bye
    heartless888 wrote: »
    except you ARE wrong


    normal attacks on a BM? the class with the highest phy def ingame?


    cleric's shell absorb 80% not 75% and it goes away in 1-2 hits? no, in world pvp they can shell and it wont even go away and lasts its full 20 seconds due to MP charms and them having insane amount of mana


    as for barbs, if you do use your sparks for stuff like aim low you wont ever have the DD to kill them, now if you double spark and toss in 6k crits (80+) you got a shot. a good one, but you need to have the jump



    so yeah

    theres a reason archers dont 1vs1 wbs its always a stalemate...
    things to change this r
    1.zerk axes
    2.archers lucky crits with 2 sparks/3
    3.1 of them is afk ^^

    dude u no how lucky u gotta be to be droppin bac to bac 6k crits w/o any problems ??
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    if a cleric uses plume shield and their heiro just ticked/low hp or they suck just use metal debuff + metal attacks. otherwise kite it till it's over.

    at 9x clerics suck cause more are pure vit and will sleep you in between plume sheilds so wings of grace is helpful when used at the right time.

    watch out for the sleep at 55%ish hp + magic debuff + tempest, good way to get ****.

    edit: for the wb, yeah u gotta pretty much get back to back crits with hell fury. if the barb is around my level and fully buffed i really don't bother xD.

    with hell fury i hit a high 8x barb fully buffed for 8k today - a 9x barb that would only be like 6k D:
  • meaangirl
    meaangirl Posts: 321 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Eragon - Harshlands wrote: »
    Thanks you, I will now.
    your welcomeb:cute
  • BlazingAzn - Harshlands
    BlazingAzn - Harshlands Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    heartless888 wrote: »
    normal attacks on a BM? the class with the highest phy def ingame?


    so yea. have u noticed that bms on harshland use their sutras.

    gg most pop the increase magical resis, when fighting an archer because they are stupid. but anyway, i auto attack bms to death. its easy. haha ;3
  • heartless888
    heartless888 Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    BlazingAzn - Harshlands wrote: »
    so yea. have u noticed that bms on harshland use their sutras.

    gg most pop the increase magical resis, when fighting an archer because they are stupid. but anyway, i auto attack bms to death. its easy. haha ;3



    if those said BMs are the dumb ones that lvled magic marrow to 10 and cant chainstun you (usually because they CS they think they are godlike) then yeah sure


    on an actual good and smart BM? normal attacks will barely do what it does a barb at best, nevermind the fact that if the BM gets in range with you as they should you will only do 50% dmg where on metal attacks its always 100% at any range, so yeah gg fighting ******* ^_^
  • Eragon - Harshlands
    Eragon - Harshlands Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    heartless888 wrote: »
    if those said BMs are the dumb ones that lvled magic marrow to 10 and cant chainstun you (usually because they CS they think they are godlike) then yeah sure


    on an actual good and smart BM? normal attacks will barely do what it does a barb at best, nevermind the fact that if the BM gets in range with you as they should you will only do 50% dmg where on metal attacks its always 100% at any range, so yeah gg fighting ******* ^_^

    lol? stunlock? Have you even heard of wings of grace, and as far as I know about close range, metal attacks do MORE DAMAGE at close range, as as soon as they do that theyll most likely pop a marrow, then just use winged blessing or wingspan, or just kite em and hit them.
    Wonhalt
  • Aurian - Harshlands
    Aurian - Harshlands Posts: 538 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Stack enough stregh to use helmet of aqua vicioness at lvl 70+
    If u do that u are awesomeb:cute
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Walterthewf - Harshlands
    Walterthewf - Harshlands Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    aurian - Harshlands wrote: »
    stack Enough Stregh To Use Helmet Of Aqua Vicioness At Lvl 70+
    If U Do That U Are Awesomeb:cute

    U Can Be Az Pro Az Escobar! Woot
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Proper bm's leave magic sutra at a level where their pdef is close to their mdef. It's like an enhanced light armor. I get more pdef and mdef than a same level archer on my wr.

    Wings of grace doesn't last as long as it should and is good to use when you triple fury. The 79 skill smack and wiz seal still effects you though.
  • Aurian - Harshlands
    Aurian - Harshlands Posts: 538 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Walterthewf - Harshlands wrote: »
    U Can Be Az Pro Az Escobar! Woot

    Sarcasm. Look it upb:bye


    I usually carry a LA with me so EA's pretty much fail with metal dmg.
    LA+lvl 5 magic marrow and done. I still miss a lot tho QQ
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • DishyWiggles - Harshlands
    DishyWiggles - Harshlands Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Eragon - Harshlands wrote: »
    ok I'll give it a whirl. First off, your support skills. Bow Mastery and Winged Blessing are obvious, and Winged shell and Wings of Grace are used to suck up damage/prevent stun.
    Ok ill list some skills for each class.
    Blademaster- If they gank you, throw up WOG RIGHT AWAY, if not, then good go, after that just kite the **** outa them, using thunder shock and lightning strike, try to refrain from using 44 thunder skill, as it takes along time. If you attack them first, use stunning arrow, or maybe aim low. then use normal attacks (maybe) untill they get to you, then nuke them wiuth thunder attacks.

    Barbarian- Stay away from these. It will be a stalemate, and nothing else.

    Venomancer- Venos without nixes, are essentialy easy meat for everyone, you can use a wide variety of skills. Aim low, stunning arrow, deadly shot, and if your weapon is good, take aim as an opener.

    Cleric- Clerics to archers, are as easy as it gets. aim low +normal attacks, or spark erupt+normal attacks. Either method will get the job done.

    Mage- Essentialy, see cleric.

    Archer- fighting your own class, just use stunning arrow, aim low, wog, winged shell and it should be fine.

    Notes: quickshot can be used as a quick chi builder also, but when pking, essentialy trust your instincts and do what reaction tells you to do, and you should do fine, and dont except to be great right away, it takes practice :)

    b:chuckle Id like to see my level archer try to kill me ^^.

    Blink, Pheonix gush sandstorm to kill ^^ (sandstorm after u nix'd ticked charm and then gush, almost a 1 shot.) archers cant kill me unless they sneak attack. even in duels (which wizards are notoriously bad @) i win against archers b:chuckle

    Edit: I tick 6x archer's charms with 1 sandstorm ^^
  • Aurian - Harshlands
    Aurian - Harshlands Posts: 538 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    U must Exodus alt.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Lindt - Harshlands
    Lindt - Harshlands Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    This thread = all archers stroking each other's epeen.

    +10 epeen for all archers who post here.
  • Eragon - Harshlands
    Eragon - Harshlands Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    DishyWiggles - Harshlands wrote: »
    b:chuckle Id like to see my level archer try to kill me ^^.

    Blink, Pheonix gush sandstorm to kill ^^ (sandstorm after u nix'd ticked charm and then gush, almost a 1 shot.) archers cant kill me unless they sneak attack. even in duels (which wizards are notoriously bad @) i win against archers b:chuckle

    Edit: I tick 6x archer's charms with 1 sandstorm ^^

    The archers that cant kill you deserve to be curcified.
    Wonhalt
  • Waterboy - Lost City
    Waterboy - Lost City Posts: 405 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    DishyWiggles - Harshlands wrote: »
    b:chuckle Id like to see my level archer try to kill me ^^.

    Blink, Pheonix gush sandstorm to kill ^^ (sandstorm after u nix'd ticked charm and then gush, almost a 1 shot.) archers cant kill me unless they sneak attack. even in duels (which wizards are notoriously bad @) i win against archers b:chuckle

    Edit: I tick 6x archer's charms with 1 sandstorm ^^

    ur a dd u do damage, nice combo ever heard of 3 second stun and few shots after?b:bye
  • Aurian - Harshlands
    Aurian - Harshlands Posts: 538 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Lindt - Harshlands wrote: »
    This thread = all archers stroking each other's epeen.

    +10 epeen for all archers who post here.

    GTFO Emoboyb:angry
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • meaangirl
    meaangirl Posts: 321 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Eragon - Harshlands wrote: »
    The archers that cant kill you deserve to be curcified.

    Archers are that good, eh?b:chuckle
  • Eragon - Harshlands
    Eragon - Harshlands Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    meaangirl wrote: »
    Archers are that good, eh?b:chuckle

    No, just when they get killed by arcane wizes the same lvl as them... in 3 shots...
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  • meaangirl
    meaangirl Posts: 321 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Eragon - Harshlands wrote: »
    No, just when they get killed by arcane wizes the same lvl as them... in 3 shots...

    Lol wizards kill archers in 3 shots? That's better b:cute
  • Eragon - Harshlands
    Eragon - Harshlands Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    meaangirl wrote: »
    Lol wizards kill archers in 3 shots? That's better b:cute

    Did you just repeat the exact same thing I posted but shorter?

    LOL WIZ KILL EA 3 HITS
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  • meaangirl
    meaangirl Posts: 321 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Eragon - Harshlands wrote: »
    Did you just repeat the exact same thing I posted but shorter?

    LOL WIZ KILL EA 3 HITS

    Im confused. So you're saying archers are good, but they get killed 3 hits to wizard? That makes a lot of sense.

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