Genie killing cube?

Snakedoctor - Harshlands
Snakedoctor - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
Hmmm, with Mirs stones going through the roof, will this make cube runs unaffordable or at least not worth the cost? Also since assuming cube runs are going to be more rare, it will make chips more rare and therefor molds that can be created from chips. I can't wait to see the in game economy as a result of this
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  • detrimentalist
    detrimentalist Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    pretty sure most cube runners are hh runners so the mirage celestone prices will not affect them.

    doubt the 3 mirage celestone price tag on a genie will make that big of a splash in the economy
  • MorgulLord - Sanctuary
    MorgulLord - Sanctuary Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    The stones are going to be expensive only for a few days, until when people realize that mirages are not the rarity, its the SP/exp/cash to build up each genie.

    So eventually, the demand would go down and prices will go back to normal. Will take a week or two tho.

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  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    People buying mirages at more than what they usually buy for cubing are idiots. Some of them who stubbornly buy at lower end might have to raise their expenditures a bit but if you're already buying mirages 25K (mirages used to be 23-25K in HT), then it's silly to spend more than that.
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    detrimentalist wrote: »
    pretty sure most cube runners are hh runners so the mirage celestone prices will not affect them.

    doubt the 3 mirage celestone price tag on a genie will make that big of a splash in the economy

    But why would you run the cube when you can sell each stone easy for 100-200k???

    So 15 mirages per run is 1.5mil-2mil you could have sold them for.

    Unless you are saving chips for the warsoul stuff...
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  • Daerys - Sanctuary
    Daerys - Sanctuary Posts: 1,022 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Prices are a reflection of the mad rush to see the new and shiny stuff. Morgul has most of it, but I think another thing that will see prices go back down is the lack of general usefulness. A lot of skills seem to be bugged and the cost of recharging endurance is pretty high for everyday use.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Daerys - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Prices are a reflection of the mad rush to see the new and shiny stuff. Morgul has most of it, but I think another thing that will see prices go back down is the lack of general usefulness. A lot of skills seem to be bugged and the cost of recharging endurance is pretty high for everyday use.

    I agree with that, special for us pvers
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  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    But why would you run the cube when you can sell each stone easy for 100-200k???

    So 15 mirages per run is 1.5mil-2mil you could have sold them for.

    Unless you are saving chips for the warsoul stuff...
    Because the XP is godly
    Because I rather sell scarlet fruits 120K than mirages 100K
    Because I want to reach 89 faster, who care about idiots buying things at stupid prices.
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Because the XP is godly
    Because I rather sell scarlet fruits 120K than mirages 100K
    Because I want to reach 89 faster, who care about idiots buying things at stupid prices.

    All good points as well :)
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  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    once the 8x/9x get their 2 genies with high lucky points mirage prices will regulate down a bit hopefully, yah itll take a bit of time unfortunetally *disgruntedly goes to TT to do moar cube*
  • Kytari - Heavens Tear
    Kytari - Heavens Tear Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    But why would you run the cube when you can sell each stone easy for 100-200k???

    So 15 mirages per run is 1.5mil-2mil you could have sold them for.

    Unless you are saving chips for the warsoul stuff...


    It's not all about chips in cube. Players run it for exp. Players over 90 run it for special pages they need for skills, so yeah. It not all about money for cubers.
  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Yea I don't really get why there's such a big fuss about overpriced mirages when scarlet fruits are selling 120K and so are oracles...
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    once the 8x/9x get their 2 genies with high lucky points mirage prices will regulate down a bit hopefully, yah itll take a bit of time unfortunetally *disgruntedly goes to TT to do moar cube*

    I will gladdy "disgruntedly" join you in TT, you can keep mirages as long as I can keep a couple of the drops I need to make some of my gear :)
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  • Kytari - Heavens Tear
    Kytari - Heavens Tear Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yea I don't really get why there's such a big fuss about overpriced mirages when scarlet fruits are selling 120K and so are oracles...

    Yep, i agree. They will come down eventually. I don't see why anyone would rush like that to buy over priced mirages anyway. You get a free Genie to start with. So what if it isn't the color you want -_- just run a TT or 2 the next day or something and get some. Plus you will have TT mats to sell for a little extra coin.
  • MorgulLord - Sanctuary
    MorgulLord - Sanctuary Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Kytari - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    So what if it isn't the color you want -_- just run a TT or 2 the next day or something and get some. Plus you will have TT mats to sell for a little extra coin.

    The demand for mirages/genies is not exactly for the color of the genie. Its for the lucky points.

    As you might already know, every 10 levels the genie has a chance of getting random number <b/w 1 to 10> of stat points. Now, the ideally, you'd want to get as much <10 per increase being the best> out of these random stats <aka lucky points> as possible.

    People keep rolling on new genies, until they can get a genie which levels with max number of lucky points.

    That's how the mirage market is being hit atm.


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  • Kytari - Heavens Tear
    Kytari - Heavens Tear Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    MorgulLord - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The demand for mirages/genies is not exactly for the color of the genie. Its for the lucky points.

    As you might already know, every 10 levels the genie has a chance of getting random number <b/w 1 to 10> of stat points. Now, the ideally, you'd want to get as much <10 per increase being the best> out of these random stats <aka lucky points> as possible.

    People keep rolling on new genies, until they can get a genie which levels with max number of lucky points.

    That's how the mirage market is being hit atm.


    ~Morgul

    oh goodness. I can understand why they would do that, but in the long run it doesn't make sense to keep doing that to me. I guess if you have millions of spirit yeah. But like for my Genie, i got 10/10 for the first 2 sets of lucky pints, 9/10 of the 3rd then 2/10, then 1/10. so i currently have 32/50. Since it is a random number it would almost be wasteful to start over on a new Genie hoping for 50/50. Plus, it would devour all my spirit D:
  • MorgulLord - Sanctuary
    MorgulLord - Sanctuary Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Kytari - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    oh goodness. I can understand why they would do that, but in the long run it doesn't make sense to keep doing that to me. I guess if you have millions of spirit yeah. But like for my Genie, i got 10/10 for the first 2 sets of lucky pints, 9/10 of the 3rd then 2/10, then 1/10. so i currently have 32/50. Since it is a random number it would almost be wasteful to start over on a new Genie hoping for 50/50. Plus, it would devour all my spirit D:

    Exactly. That's why I mentioned earlier that pretty soon...everyone will realize that mirages are not exactly the bottleneck for a new genie. Its spirit.

    On another note, you can now "sell" your spirit/exp in the form of a "good" genie. That's gonna be the new market... :)


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  • Murugan - Lost City
    Murugan - Lost City Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    XD what the hell happed to the prices on your guys' servers?

    In Lost City, Mirages go for 40k (25k before the genies came out).

    100k per? I would've been rich :<
  • Kirashan - Dreamweaver
    Kirashan - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Murugan - Lost City wrote: »
    XD what the hell happed to the prices on your guys' servers?

    In Lost City, Mirages go for 40k (25k before the genies came out).

    100k per? I would've been rich :<

    I was just going to say the same thing. Dreamweaver was running at 25-30k each, and we're seeing 45-50 now. What the hell happened there, Lost City!?
  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Answer to the two above posts, I don't know if anyone actually buys at 100K. There have been world chats of people selling them at that price though. I thought it was ridiculous and laughed at them in PMs cuz I'm too poor to buy a worldchat.
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  • Kytari - Heavens Tear
    Kytari - Heavens Tear Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Kirashan - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I was just going to say the same thing. Dreamweaver was running at 25-30k each, and we're seeing 45-50 now. What the hell happened there, Lost City!?

    Mirages before Genies on Heavens Tear ran around 25k. I am guessing the the mention of 100k mirages are just the asking price people had seen mirages for. Maybe some people were really desperate and bought some for that much. But i doubt very many mirages actually sold for 100k
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Kytari - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Mirages before Genies on Heavens Tear ran around 25k. I am guessing the the mention of 100k mirages are just the asking price people had seen mirages for. Maybe some people were really desperate and bought some for that much. But i doubt very many mirages actually sold for 100k


    I sold a few for 200k last night, right after genies got out.... And that was to people that were next to the genie guy and asked in local "wtb mirages 200k"

    I do not think the high prices are going to stay, I am pretty sure it was a "first day out" price kind of thing, and they should be going back to 25kish soon
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  • Kytari - Heavens Tear
    Kytari - Heavens Tear Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I sold a few for 200k last night, right after genies got out.... And that was to people that were next to the genie guy and asked in local "wtb mirages 200k"

    I do not think the high prices are going to stay, I am pretty sure it was a "first day out" price kind of thing, and they should be going back to 25kish soon

    O_O omg. Someone offered 200k for mirages xD crazy people. Should have bought cheaper ones and saved the coin for gear or something else at least.
  • MorgulLord - Sanctuary
    MorgulLord - Sanctuary Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Kytari - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    O_O omg. Someone offered 200k for mirages xD crazy people. Should have bought cheaper ones and saved the coin for gear or something else at least.

    No. Its just an old trick to make people believe that people are buying at that price...and they should be sold at the same.... b:chuckle


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  • Kytari - Heavens Tear
    Kytari - Heavens Tear Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    MorgulLord - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No. Its just an old trick to make people believe that people are buying at that price...and they should be sold at the same.... b:chuckle


    ~Morgul

    xD tricky tricky people.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Kytari - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    xD tricky tricky people.

    I really do not care if they were trying to be tricky :) made some coins all the same. But as I stated earlier, after the flury of of last night, I seriously don't think it the prices will stay high.

    The reasons being, if you are a low level player, you do not have the gold anyway to keep buying at those prices, and if you are high level enough to have the money, you can easly run TT for an hour or two and get enough mirages to do what you need. If you are by the genie guy and you are short one, you may be willing to pay a premium to not have to wait, but that will be about it and also the exception.
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