which colour genie and genie skills will be best for archer

Guardgodess - Sanctuary

was just wondering the question as to which type of genie (red, white, orange, green) will most benefit archer, pvp and pve wise, or is there no difference at all.

plus, which genie skills will be a good idea to learn for pvp and pve wise.

i am thinking of getting two genies, one pvp and one pve.

thank you in advance for any input

Suiryujin - Sanctuary

personally i take the green one because its for dex and dex is the one that affects the duration and strength of the skills bonus.

right now i am considering 2 option for self buff as archer. wind shield and relentless courage
windshield provides 30% dmg reduction and 10% atk spd boost and supposedly 10% dex for 8 seconds, every 50 dex gives u +1 sec (lvl 10)
relentless courage gives u 22% atk spd bootst, 11% casting boost, 30% move speed boost for 8 seconds at lvl 6. it increase the effect of each thing by 1% every 20dex
(lvl 6 right now)
personally i am leaning towards the relentless courage for the superior firepower.

2nd skill, i am looking for a stun/immoblize skill so i as archer can kill them while they cant kill me. the best i found so far is the immoblize skill of piercing flame.
it deals some minor dmg, and has 100% of immoblize for 3sec at lvl 10. every 40 dex increase the duration by 1sec. so probably 4 sec of immoblize total. the cast range is 20 meter and its instant cast. seems like a decent ability unless someone can find me a skill that stuns. i also consider to ignore the disable skill and get the extreme poison for the amp dmg thats still under consideration.

final skill. i am looking for some sort of status immune, i want protection from the bleed from nix but also stun from bm, i tried the advanced skill:faith and it fails hard, at lvl 3 it still only says 10% chance of making self immune to status affects. i think i will try absolute domain next, if worse comes to worse i will just stick with the good old trick of using wings of grace to stop bleed from getting on me.

genie has a max skill slot of 3 and well... i dont plan on getting mag 2 much, i am expecting myself to use only 1 skill in a PvP situation. so it will be high dex and decent vit but low mag and low str genie for me. only question is which 3 skill will provide me the most versatile defense in almost all situation against all classes

Guardgodess - Sanctuary

for windshield's damage reduction, is it your damage output gets reduced, or the damage you receive?

mbrunestud

it seems piercing flames is freeze rather than stun

Guardgodess - Sanctuary

really? damn

did someone try it out?

denesis

Suiryujin - Sanctuary wrote: »

personally i take the green one because its for dex and dex is the one that affects the duration and strength of the skills bonus.

right now i am considering 2 option for self buff as archer. wind shield and relentless courage
windshield provides 30% dmg reduction and 10% atk spd boost and supposedly 10% dex for 8 seconds, every 50 dex gives u +1 sec (lvl 10)
relentless courage gives u 22% atk spd bootst, 11% casting boost, 30% move speed boost for 8 seconds at lvl 6. it increase the effect of each thing by 1% every 20dex
(lvl 6 right now)
personally i am leaning towards the relentless courage for the superior firepower.

2nd skill, i am looking for a stun/immoblize skill so i as archer can kill them while they cant kill me. the best i found so far is the immoblize skill of piercing flame.
it deals some minor dmg, and has 100% of immoblize for 3sec at lvl 10. every 40 dex increase the duration by 1sec. so probably 4 sec of immoblize total. the cast range is 20 meter and its instant cast. seems like a decent ability unless someone can find me a skill that stuns. i also consider to ignore the disable skill and get the extreme poison for the amp dmg thats still under consideration.

final skill. i am looking for some sort of status immune, i want protection from the bleed from nix but also stun from bm, i tried the advanced skill:faith and it fails hard, at lvl 3 it still only says 10% chance of making self immune to status affects. i think i will try absolute domain next, if worse comes to worse i will just stick with the good old trick of using wings of grace to stop bleed from getting on me.

genie has a max skill slot of 3 and well... i dont plan on getting mag 2 much, i am expecting myself to use only 1 skill in a PvP situation. so it will be high dex and decent vit but low mag and low str genie for me. only question is which 3 skill will provide me the most versatile defense in almost all situation against all classes

But mag genie has better energy recovery than dex one

nim7

Can some1 tell me or give me a link about what colour is good for which in genies? (and their ability/s) b:cute

MorgulLord - Sanctuary

Guardgodess - Sanctuary wrote: »

for windshield's damage reduction, is it your damage output gets reduced, or the damage you receive?

EDIT:

This is from the Genie Skill list : Reduce damage taken partially while increasing attack speed and dodge (Only on land and in the air)


~Morgul

Devoted - Lost City

going for pure attacks skills

amp, atk speed increase.. etc

mgleason

Hmm...Currently have a green one as well. I'm somewhat overwhelmed. I've used all my enlightenment deals to level it, but have yet to place any points. anyone have any ideas? only level 10 atm. Have 3 skill points i think and all attribute points

Leaderalan - Lost City

Only link I know of http://pwi.perfectworld.com/guide/genie

ArwenFrost - Heavens Tear

i went with the stunning blast (lvl 10 - 7 seconds immobilize) , extreme poison (lvl 10 - 10 second amp), thunderstorm (lvl 10 - extra metal attack) and relentless courage (lvl 2 atm - increase att speed and decrease channeling).

Ladieluck - Sanctuary

Suiryujin - Sanctuary wrote: »

personally i take the green one because its for dex and dex is the one that affects the duration and strength of the skills bonus.

-okay, So basicallly, the strength genie will have stronger spells but they won't last as long, and vitality genie will have more energy, etc?

And let me make sure I've got this right (sorry, but It's alot of reading and alot to sort out)
Aside from the basic skill that each genie starts out with, It appears that all the genies, regardless of color, can learn the same skills - It's just that they start out with more points on one stat as apposed to the other? And then, depending on where you put your affinity points is what will determine which skills you can learn?
Is that right? Or is it more like, each color genie has it's own skill tree

*sigh*b:chuckle

Devoted - Lost City

What I got so far:

- Tree of protection: beast defensive skill for pvp
- Extreme poison: amplifies damage
- Windshield: increased attack speed (amazing for the weapon i want endgame) + damage reduction + dex increase


I got the green genie and atm I only plan to have these three skills. What I like so far is that my genie has enough energy to use windshield and extreme poison at the same time so I don't have to increase it's energy level too much. I will use these saved attributes to increase dex by a lot because dex increases the duration of tree of protection, increases the % amplified with extreme poison and also increases the duration of windshield. I like it so far, been busy so I haven't seen many other better options I probably missed.

Peacefulelf - Dreamweaver

When i check the longivity skills it doesnt show any of the ones you guys are mentioning >_>

Mosz - Heavens Tear

Peacefulelf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

When i check the longivity skills it doesnt show any of the ones you guys are mentioning >_>

there are min lvls to learn skills so the skilltree expands as the genie lvls

U_got_sniped - Lost City

hmm why not make a genie thats gonna save you alotta money b:bye

personaly iam gonna have tree of protection (saves hp pot and really good to regain some fast hp)

wind shield (extra dammage, evasion, and reduced dammage taken. also reduces amounts of arrows firedb:chuckle more money on goodiesb:dirty)

keeping 1 spot open for later. probaly on some buff or debuff. the other attack skills sucks

Devoted - Lost City

replaced wind shield with relentless courage

MorgulLord - Sanctuary

Devoted - Lost City wrote: »

replaced wind shield with relentless courage

Any reasons why you removed Wind Shield ? And whats Relentless Courage.

<At work atm, cant go ingame to chk skills, sorry>


~Morgul

Mosz - Heavens Tear

U_got_sniped - Lost City wrote: »

hmm why not make a genie thats gonna save you alotta money b:bye

personaly iam gonna have tree of protection (saves hp pot and really good to regain some fast hp)

wind shield (extra dammage, evasion, and reduced dammage taken. also reduces amounts of arrows firedb:chuckle more money on goodiesb:dirty)

keeping 1 spot open for later. probaly on some buff or debuff. the other attack skills sucks

since when are arrows more expensive then chi stones, these skills burn significant amounts of stamina, genie skills really seem intended for occasional pvp and 90+ players

also my lucky points keep sucking on genies blehhhhhh, gonna take it slow and let you leet archers figure out a good pvp skill setup ^_^

Devoted - Lost City

MorgulLord - Sanctuary wrote: »

Any reasons why you removed Wind Shield ? And whats Relentless Courage.

<At work atm, cant go ingame to chk skills, sorry>


~Morgul

windshield only gives 10% attack speed, relentless courage gives a lot more and it's affected by genie dex

windshield : 0.69 atk speed
relentless only level 4 atm: 0.8 atk speed

the dmg reduction on windshield is nice though just not my preference.

MorgulLord - Sanctuary

Now, here's another question.

<Sorry, if I'm asking too many. The anxiety of sitting at work and waiting for the day to end to try out the new patch... I hope you get it xP>

Do they both stack ?

~Morgul

Suiryujin - Sanctuary

relentless courage drains ALOT of energy, its not something that u can use with another skill. the duration of relentless coruage is 8 seconds, not enough for most genie to regen the energy needed, u might just barely, but well maybe for 1 second doubt it worth it

Devoted - Lost City

You don't have to have relentless courage on 24/7. The atk speeds don't stack but pvp wise 30% atk speed for 8 seconds is beast.

ArwenFrost - Heavens Tear

have u guys tried using the genie metal skills? im currently playing around with Thunderstorm and have it max at lvl 10 and it does 1487.2 metal dmg. However it does triple dmg on ground targets and double damage to very close targets. I have compared the dmg with lighting strike and when the target is on ground and close by, it does more dmg than a lvl 10 lighting strike. Also it is an instant cast, haven't seen it miss yet and it has crit couple times. Not sure if genie att skills are affected by the player's crit rate but if it is, its worth looking in to. I will need to play around with it more.

Devoted - Lost City

ArwenFrost - Heavens Tear wrote: »

have u guys tried using the genie metal skills? im currently playing around with Thunderstorm and have it max at lvl 10 and it does 1487.2 metal dmg. However it does triple dmg on ground targets and double damage to very close targets. I have compared the dmg with lighting strike and when the target is on ground and close by, it does more dmg than a lvl 10 lighting strike. Also it is an instant cast, haven't seen it miss yet and it has crit couple times. Not sure if genie att skills are affected by the player's crit rate but if it is, its worth looking in to. I will need to play around with it more.

im thinking of getting 40 mag so I can get this skill also. the energy recovery that comes with mag is helpful too. i'm going to wait a bit more and see what people find before i go wasting more sp =.=

Suiryujin - Sanctuary

does genie skills get 75% dmg reduction in PvP like players?
if it does, then its like... 200-300dmg a hit at the most, if its doesnt then there might be some use for it.

Limshutian - Sanctuary

hmmm...i think i will use my genie for backup just in case i am dieing or sumthing and my stun is on cooldown...or i could use the a genie knockback skill or sumthin like that to save myself

Waterboy - Lost City

i dont think the color of the genie matters its mainly the skills u get along with the genie that do

Suiryujin - Sanctuary

Waterboy - Lost City wrote: »

i dont think the color of the genie matters its mainly the skills u get along with the genie that do

the color of genie represent the type of genie u got at the beginning.
for example longevity with 15 dex is green
the stats on genie does have a minor affect on ur skills, therefore if u are trying to make the best PvP genie u can, better pick the one with the best beginning stats.

u get 1 stat per point until u get over 40 points. thats over 40 points ADDED to that stats, not 40 points in that stat
so if i have a base dex of 15, i can get my genie to 55 dex paying only 40 points.
while i had a vit based genie with 15 vit and base dex of 5 i would need to use 60 points to get to 55dex

LordSnow - Lost City

Suiryujin - Sanctuary wrote: »

the color of genie represent the type of genie u got at the beginning.
for example longevity with 15 dex is green
the stats on genie does have a minor affect on ur skills, therefore if u are trying to make the best PvP genie u can, better pick the one with the best beginning stats.

u get 1 stat per point until u get over 40 points. thats over 40 points ADDED to that stats, not 40 points in that stat
so if i have a base dex of 15, i can get my genie to 55 dex paying only 40 points.
while i had a vit based genie with 15 vit and base dex of 5 i would need to use 60 points to get to 55dex

but cant you reset your points throught the quests the npc gives?