no more QQ bout phoenix or herc OR venos

RogueFox - Heavens Tear
RogueFox - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
look venos are not over powerd, yeah the nix and herc are stong and blah blah blah, they are $200 rl money, or 24 mil game coin

if some 1 pays that much for em yeah they are going to get good results, i myself do not have either a herc or a veno but would absolutly love one

herc to get rid of my non agro keepin piece of junk magmite

and the nix to get rid of sawfly <.<

yeah im a low level but still i dont like gettin chased by mobs my magmit cant hold onto

a nix and herc can be killed as many have stated, the nix is not bugged, flesh ream maybe i have yet to see it, only glitch i know of with the nix is the one in TW with the crystals ~looks at the faction Enrage~

venos are not over powered ok, maybe if u didnt wail on their pet and tried to get them you can kill em, its simple when the pet is comin at u u go for the veno and 2-3 hit it, unless it has bramble on, than try to stun it so it cant heal its pet

as u can see their are many routes to take to kill a veno and its pet so plz stop QQ bout it, and dont flame me for statein this cuz that would be kinda pathetic

how bout u go make a veno get some coin, and buy stuff for yourself other than whineing about it

btw not all venos are super rich some are strugglin i know some, and they are higher lvls than me lol

so how bout we stop this bashing on the venos and their pets, i gave u answers on how to kill em, stratagies ect ect so have a good night b:thanks
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  • Phoenix - Dreamweaver
    Phoenix - Dreamweaver Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    This post is so disastrous that I am barely cognizant of where to begin rebutting it. It's like giving students road kill to dissect for their high school biology class.
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  • HuntresPrime - Lost City
    HuntresPrime - Lost City Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Bashquash!!!!!!!!
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Phoenix - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This post is so disastrous that I am barely cognizant of where to begin rebutting it. It's like giving students road kill to dissect for their high school biology class.

    mmm You do realize that there are a ton of posts of people complaining how you are so UBER in pvp right? Everywhere you turn people complaining how phoenix is so strong that kills everyone just by looking at them....

    I salute you for being so couragious as to post with your real name.
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  • HuntresPrime - Lost City
    HuntresPrime - Lost City Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    mmm You do realize that there are a ton of posts of people complaining how you are so UBER in pvp right? Everywhere you turn people complaining how phoenix is so strong that kills everyone just by looking at them....

    I salute you for being so couragious as to post with your real name.
    really? i thought only CHUCK NORRIS was the only person/thing/god that could kill you by looking at it XD
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    People are tired of the QQ threads because there are so many.. nobody but you can deny that they are OP lol. When you've played a bit longer you'll see. I got no problem with people saying no more QQ threads cuz its discussed so much, but saying they aren't OP is just wrong lol.
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  • Phoenix - Dreamweaver
    Phoenix - Dreamweaver Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    mmm You do realize that there are a ton of posts of people complaining how you are so UBER in pvp right?

    That's a bald-faced lie. If that were true, I'd be 1st instead of 41st. :(

    How about it, devs? You can bug my bleed skills any time you want, I just need to switch to polearm.
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  • Ponza - Lost City
    Ponza - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Adroit - Lost City wrote: »
    People are tired of the QQ threads because there are so many.. nobody but you can deny that they are OP lol. When you've played a bit longer you'll see. I got no problem with people saying no more QQ threads cuz its discussed so much, but saying they aren't OP is just wrong lol.

    Yup, I've since given up, and decided to vote with my feet...by moving to another game. I spent over $200 on this game (and not on a nix, mind you), and probably would spend more, but I just don't feel like the devs care about this game enough. Yeah, its a company and it needs to make money, but it also needs to keep a good reputation.

    There will always be QQ threads about this issue, however, because its just not fair in an mmo, which should be as balanced as possible. so stop QQ'ing about people QQ'ing.
  • Torinchibi - Lost City
    Torinchibi - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    If I could quote lvls, I would do that and then say: Everything you just said has been discredited.

    None of you even have lvl 5 flesh ream. Just be quiet, a bug is a bug.
  • nocturnalbastard
    nocturnalbastard Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    RogueFox - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    herc to get rid of my non agro keepin piece of junk magmite

    Magmites are great tanks, you can solo HH with a magmite or kowlin, I've seen it done so many times it's silly.

    You fail.
  • Gau - Dreamweaver
    Gau - Dreamweaver Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Maybe the Admins should just make a dedicated Forum for this,solve alot of problems. People could just not look at it.
  • XKIAx - Heavens Tear
    XKIAx - Heavens Tear Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Gau - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Maybe the Admins should just make a dedicated Forum for this,solve alot of problems. People could just not look at it.

    QFT
    I'm beyond tired of all the OP veno threads. Thats almost all you see on the forums these days.
  • Gau - Dreamweaver
    Gau - Dreamweaver Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    QFT??? What does that mean,never seen that abbreviation before?
  • PlazmaStryke - Heavens Tear
    PlazmaStryke - Heavens Tear Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    your only in your level 20's, ive fought venos with nix's 90+ and they do more damage than I do, and then gotta deal with bleed effect. a bug is a bug b:surrender
  • Miatemaro - Heavens Tear
    Miatemaro - Heavens Tear Posts: 700 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    PlazmaStryke - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    your only in your level 20's, ive fought venos with nix's 90+ and they do more damage than I do, and then gotta deal with bleed effect. a bug is a bug b:surrender

    You do know what pots are. The nix is legendary ofcourse its gonna have higher damage than normal pets. Hey I know your weapons do to much damage because they are + , they need to be nerfed.


    The only thing that is bugged is the PvP damage reduction of the bleed. It shouldnt be 100% like it is. I do feel it should be doing only 75% of its total in PvP, thats a 25% reduction. As the normal reduction is just to much and makes the bleed nothing, it should be there to create pressure on other players. Or it could even be set to where it goes from 50% starting to full damage towards the end of its ticks. That would be the best way of fixing the bleed PvP damage reduction.
    working it Q_Q
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  • XKIAx - Heavens Tear
    XKIAx - Heavens Tear Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Gau - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    QFT??? What does that mean,never seen that abbreviation before?

    Quoted for truth. Basically meaning i agree 100%.
  • mbrunestud
    mbrunestud Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Gau - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    QFT??? What does that mean,never seen that abbreviation before?

    quoted for truth?
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    nocturnalbastard wrote: »
    Magmites are great tanks, you can solo HH with a magmite or kowlin, I've seen it done so many times it's silly.

    You fail.
    No you do, you cant solo twilight squad mode with a piece of **** magmite or kowlin. Try and tank a monster with a couple thousand Patk with a golem and come back and tell me the results


    and QFt can = quit ****ing trolling and quoted for truth
  • d0pey
    d0pey Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Damnit... Don't you ever get sick of talking about hercs and nixes? Just stop it already!b:angryb:angryb:angry
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  • RogueFox - Heavens Tear
    RogueFox - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No you do, you cant solo twilight squad mode with a piece of **** magmite or kowlin. Try and tank a monster with a couple thousand Patk with a golem and come back and tell me the results


    and QFt can = quit ****ing trolling and quoted for truth

    ty Tear, see even a high lvl said it so u cant really say anythin bout me bein a low level and not know wat im talkin about, i pay attention to wat every one says ^.^
    hehehe i like my sig >:)
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  • Oldbear - Sanctuary
    Oldbear - Sanctuary Posts: 486 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Phoenix Venos are overpowered. But since right now it doesn't affect my gameplay I couldn't care less about that. So what if they are.
  • RogueFox - Heavens Tear
    RogueFox - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Oldbear - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Phoenix Venos are overpowered. But since right now it doesn't affect my gameplay I couldn't care less about that. So what if they are.

    listen to the Oldbear, for it is wise
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  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Torinchibi - Lost City wrote: »
    If I could quote lvls, I would do that and then say: Everything you just said has been discredited.

    None of you even have lvl 5 flesh ream. Just be quiet, a bug is a bug.

    That's actually a logical fallacy to attack the level of the character being posted on, and not the content of the post.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    That's actually a logical fallacy to attack the level of the character being posted on, and not the content of the post.

    Also just because a player has a low level shown, does not mean its their main, or that they have not gotten to a high level in another version of PW.
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    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Sylvini - Heavens Tear
    Sylvini - Heavens Tear Posts: 259 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    *sigh* For the 100th time, Venos are not OP. Flesh Ream is broke and I agree that anyone that uses it in PvP should be banned for abusing a bug, but the Veno class as it is intended is not OP.

    Yes, a Veno can solo TT, even without a Herc. (TT does not necessarily mean TT squad, or any particular level of TT, but the only problems a Veno should run into in TT Squad are the AoE attacks, and there it doesn't really matter if it's Herc or Mag tanking, it's the Veno's HP and PDef that are the problem). Guess what, though, a barb/cleric combo could duo the same TT (and more, considering they COULD handle AoE attacks), with less risk, and possibly in less time.

    The Veno class was designed to solo, so it's no surprise that it can. It was not designed to do anything fast (except restore HP/MP every 5 minutes). To those that claim Venos level faster than any other class: my archer has leveled much faster than my Veno.
  • Loltank - Harshlands
    Loltank - Harshlands Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Sylvini - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    *sigh* For the 100th time, Venos are not OP. Flesh Ream is broke and I agree that anyone that uses it in PvP should be banned for abusing a bug, but the Veno class as it is intended is not OP.

    Yes, a Veno can solo TT, even without a Herc. (TT does not necessarily mean TT squad, or any particular level of TT, but the only problems a Veno should run into in TT Squad are the AoE attacks, and there it doesn't really matter if it's Herc or Mag tanking, it's the Veno's HP and PDef that are the problem). Guess what, though, a barb/cleric combo could duo the same TT (and more, considering they COULD handle AoE attacks), with less risk, and possibly in less time.

    The Veno class was designed to solo, so it's no surprise that it can. It was not designed to do anything fast (except restore HP/MP every 5 minutes). To those that claim Venos level faster than any other class: my archer has leveled much faster than my Veno.

    You are, by far, the most reasonable Veno I've ever had the pleasure of reading.

    Kudos to you.
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  • Osiris - Dreamweaver
    Osiris - Dreamweaver Posts: 218 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    d0pey wrote: »
    Damnit... Don't you ever get sick of talking about hercs and nixes? Just stop it already!b:angryb:angryb:angry

    What? Thats an evergreen!!!11one
    Sylvini - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    *sigh* For the 100th time, Venos are not OP. Flesh Ream is broke and I agree that anyone that uses it in PvP should be banned for abusing a bug, but the Veno class as it is intended is not OP.

    I actually can understand why veno use the glitched spell and find it somehow reasonable. Its not the venos fault that it is glitched and beside that it is a normal petskill.

    Yes, a Veno can solo TT, even without a Herc. (TT does not necessarily mean TT squad, or any particular level of TT, but the only problems a Veno should run into in TT Squad are the AoE attacks, and there it doesn't really matter if it's Herc or Mag tanking, it's the Veno's HP and PDef that are the problem). Guess what, though, a barb/cleric combo could duo the same TT (and more, considering they COULD handle AoE attacks), with less risk, and possibly in less time.

    There is no way a barb and cleric squad could solo TT in less time then a Veno with her Herc. A barb in this combo would have both the role of the tank and the DD and beside his low attack damage he also suffers from the 75% damage reduction on lvl ? bosses. The herc will kill bosses in Probably 20% of the time the cleric + barb combo would to. And beside that, a veno and her Herc assume less risk then a barb + cleric because without the ability to pull single mobs the last mentioned will have to fight 2-3 mobs at the same time and if the barb can't hold aggro of all the mobs, the cleric and therefore also the tank are dead meat.

    The Veno class was designed to solo, so it's no surprise that it can. It was not designed to do anything fast (except restore HP/MP every 5 minutes). To those that claim Venos level faster than any other class: my archer has leveled much faster than my Veno.

    Even if the veno class is designed to be a solo class, soloing an instance that is obviously made for squads, bypassing the cost and the lowered drop rate in the solo-equivalent is just wrong.
    Yes it is mainly jealousy, but i think this jealousy is somewhat justified...

    I think many venos will hate me when i say that i really would appreciate it when a squad in TT squad mode would get a timer when their number of members falls below 4.
  • chomon
    chomon Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    why is it that venos are the only class that can spend 200$ or 24mil coins for something OP'd? hell if clerics got something like that, i would pay the 24mil coins for it -_-
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Osiris - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Even if the veno class is designed to be a solo class, soloing an instance that is obviously made for squads, bypassing the cost and the lowered drop rate in the solo-equivalent is just wrong.
    Yes it is mainly jealousy, but i think this jealousy is somewhat justified...

    I think many venos will hate me when i say that i really would appreciate it when a squad in TT squad mode would get a timer when their number of members falls below 4.

    That's putting a moral judgment on something that has nothing to do with right or wrong.

    Why would a venomancer hate you for something that will never happen?
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  • Kaenor - Heavens Tear
    Kaenor - Heavens Tear Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    chomon wrote: »
    why is it that venos are the only class that can spend 200$ or 24mil coins for something OP'd? hell if clerics got something like that, i would pay the 24mil coins for it -_-

    You can pay enough for charms and GAs b:chuckle
    Be optimistic, with genies maybe the whole system changing, and dont need to reply for this.
  • nocturnalbastard
    nocturnalbastard Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    chomon wrote: »
    why is it that venos are the only class that can spend 200$ or 24mil coins for something OP'd? hell if clerics got something like that, i would pay the 24mil coins for it -_-

    As would I...

    Imagine a weapon soulgem that would dispel a Veno pet on a successful hit for 30 seconds. I'd collect 9999 'whatever' to get one of those. ;)

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