Archer or Wizard

Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
edited April 2009 in Wizard
Which is better at whipping out damage?
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  • Mikel_oru - Sanctuary
    Mikel_oru - Sanctuary Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    The crits are just too many...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    read the wizard crit forum a look at those numbers b:shocked
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Mikel_oru - Sanctuary
    Mikel_oru - Sanctuary Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    read the wizard crit forum a look at those numbers b:shocked

    Of course a Wizard crits for much more but when a Wizard crits 4 times out of 100 an Archer crits 20 times out of 100, ending up outdamaging the wizard. Speed also plays it's role.
    I'm LA Cleric, my crit rate is 4% at lvl66 one of my best friends is archer lvl66 and her crit rate is 12%. That's quite a big difference, trust me.

    If you take each hit individually then Wizards do outdamaga Archers but so do Clerics if I'm not mistaken. Taking each hit individualy... I might be wrong but the order goes like Wizard > Cleric > Archer.
    Once more, I'm not sure.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Rinnve - Lost City
    Rinnve - Lost City Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Mikel_oru - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Of course a Wizard crits for much more but when a Wizard crits 4 times out of 100 an Archer crits 20 times out of 100, ending up outdamaging the wizard.
    Not outdamaging, just catching up. I've tested it on private server, on 8X dps is about the same. On later levels things going to change a bit 'cause archers get even more crits, wizards start to build up -chan sets... and of course there is dark spark with great -chan bonus b:dirty So at endgame it'll be up to one's skill and money and not to class.
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  • Cirdan - Lost City
    Cirdan - Lost City Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I'd say Archer. At 74, my regular attack may only be 2500-4000 damage (non crits) persecond, but when I do that 3 times in 2 seconds it adds up fast. At lvl 88 i can get a mold that increases attack rate so I get 2 attacks per second. Add that to a 17% crit rate, which will be around 20% at lvl88, it's even nastier damage. I may only have a highest crit of 20k with a 2spark, but the sheer speed of attacks speaks for itself I think.

    P.S. I know this is a wizard forum, but since you started a thread on archers vs wizards, I thought you could use a viewpoint of an archer. I hope you don't mind b:victory
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Highest numbers? Wizard
    Highest DPS? Archers
    Most efficient for bosses? Archer. Sharpened Tooth Arrow.


    And I think it's interesting how people say Archer and Wizard DPS is similar... on what if I may ask? Archers have good damage everywhere. I'd like to see a Wizard beating an Archer at an earth element mob. Wizards are still element oriented.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • rell21
    rell21 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Im a level 69 Wizard on San server, and archers are dangerous due to the DPS. Wizards have slow channeling moves, and you would have to really stack up the gear to have the - chan. Nevertheless, I've been told that the -chan gear has no really effect per say, but I disagree, but I'm a LA wizard so I would rather have the critical even as unreliable it is sometimes. The archers ability to critical often quickly bypass charms easily making them more of a problem to me then a wizard. I mean we can take in to consideration that all classes take a level of intelligence to play to be good at, but a archer who tosses on his winged shell stun shot a few shots pretty much lay out any class.
  • Rule - Heavens Tear
    Rule - Heavens Tear Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Both are good. Wiz's are more fun and more pain.

    LA wiz's generally will crit 1/10 times more depending on gear. Some of those crits are just sick. With Undine and working with another wiz or a BM out DPS'ing an archer isn't unusual at all. Sutra and Double spark work miracles. VS earth mobs just use your pyro\gush\DP\pheonix etc etc with sutra and double spark.
    Pure mag will have les crit but higher mag att, same deal, sutra and double spark and undine and splorch.

    Depends on your party makeup. Sharpened tooth is very nice on TT bosses, but thats not the whole story. When a cleric goes down and a wiz can sutra heal the barb until the cleric is back up or seal a mob to buy time etc. Its more about who's behind the keyboard than the class.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    lol i have 5% crit rate why is yours so low?????????
    i agree with rule, there is no such thing as a bad class, just the people playing the class (the quote is something like that....)
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze

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