What are you capable of, and why?
Isala - Sanctuary
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We've seen the threads talking about classes in general. They're a dime a dozen. So, I want to know about you, the individual. What are you good, and bad at, and why? How did you build your character, and how do you play it? Where do you shine, and where do you fail?
I am a Veno. I have what most would consider an "Awkward" build. I have sacrificed my magic power to put points into Vit. On top of this, I play both trees, Fox, and Caster. While I have the armor build for LA, I carry Arcane robes as well.
What I can do:
Function as an optional tank. I can tank bosses like Slitt, Slither, Kimsa, Luminoc Architect, Gouf, Krixxix, and Suzerix without a pet in Fox Form. With enough Venos, I can do Luminoc Architect, Gouf, Khewy, and a couple of FB51 bosses with my pet.
Solo FB 39 and lower with my pet, and 19 without a pet at all.
Debuff the **** out of things. I have my curses in Fox Form, and I also carry several pets with Debuffs to help the main tank do his job. I have pets with Threaten to reduce Physical Attack, and I can use Amp and Purge to keep a boss down, as well as using Befuddling Mist to lower it's accuracy.
Solo without having to freak out when an add gets on me. With as much Vit as I have, I can switch over to Fox Form, while my pet fights the mob it's on, and start swinging back. With the proper combination of Mist and Leech, I can keep my HP up until my pet finished the mob it's on, and comes to help me.
What I cannot do:
Solo TT. It's not happening. Period. My pet heals are way too weak to keep up with any of the damage in there, even in solo mode.
Grind as fast as other classes. Due to my weakened magic, I can't get the killing speed that others can, and it also makes me fodder for KSers.
Equip the weapon for my level. I have to wait 18 levels before I can equip a weapon, cutting my power even further.
Tank Jewel, or Kong. I'm a minitank. There's no way on Earth I'm standing up to those beasts.
So, how about you? We have anyone here that sets a glowing standard? Do you make your build look good? When someone has a task, do they turn to you for your help? Brag a little. Let loose, and tell us what makes you, well, YOU.
I am a Veno. I have what most would consider an "Awkward" build. I have sacrificed my magic power to put points into Vit. On top of this, I play both trees, Fox, and Caster. While I have the armor build for LA, I carry Arcane robes as well.
What I can do:
Function as an optional tank. I can tank bosses like Slitt, Slither, Kimsa, Luminoc Architect, Gouf, Krixxix, and Suzerix without a pet in Fox Form. With enough Venos, I can do Luminoc Architect, Gouf, Khewy, and a couple of FB51 bosses with my pet.
Solo FB 39 and lower with my pet, and 19 without a pet at all.
Debuff the **** out of things. I have my curses in Fox Form, and I also carry several pets with Debuffs to help the main tank do his job. I have pets with Threaten to reduce Physical Attack, and I can use Amp and Purge to keep a boss down, as well as using Befuddling Mist to lower it's accuracy.
Solo without having to freak out when an add gets on me. With as much Vit as I have, I can switch over to Fox Form, while my pet fights the mob it's on, and start swinging back. With the proper combination of Mist and Leech, I can keep my HP up until my pet finished the mob it's on, and comes to help me.
What I cannot do:
Solo TT. It's not happening. Period. My pet heals are way too weak to keep up with any of the damage in there, even in solo mode.
Grind as fast as other classes. Due to my weakened magic, I can't get the killing speed that others can, and it also makes me fodder for KSers.
Equip the weapon for my level. I have to wait 18 levels before I can equip a weapon, cutting my power even further.
Tank Jewel, or Kong. I'm a minitank. There's no way on Earth I'm standing up to those beasts.
So, how about you? We have anyone here that sets a glowing standard? Do you make your build look good? When someone has a task, do they turn to you for your help? Brag a little. Let loose, and tell us what makes you, well, YOU.
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Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »So, how about you? We have anyone here that sets a glowing standard? Do you make your build look good? When someone has a task, do they turn to you for your help? Brag a little. Let loose, and tell us what makes you, well, YOU.
The **** is the point of another thread like this? b:shutup0 -
i can die very well
why? i have low hp...0 -
Literature - Harshlands wrote: »The **** is the point of another thread like this? b:shutup
Because, like most people, I'm tired of the generic "Play your class" **** you see everywhere on this entire forum, and I'm curious just what "Playing one's class" means to other people. You know, gather info, find out what exactly works, that kind of thing? Because, I don't know about you, but I want to see a little variety, and just what kind of people are playing this game. And if you didn't see a point, why post in it? That just brings it to the top of the forum list. b:shutup0 -
I'm not even sure what BM's are or aren't meant to do. I can tank every boss I've tried to with 1 cleric, I can tank every FB upto 89 with 1 cleric, although alotta people say Barb's are good tankers, I think BM's with their Marrow's and Sage spark (gives Bless buff) are pretty sweet too. =D0
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I don't know. I just restated... tell u in a bit b:thanks[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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While i apreciate the intent behind your post and really don't mean to rain on your parade, i do feel like making a couple of observations. LA, even if not at your level, plus vit seems like a bad idea. As an arcane at your same level i can solo all of the bosses you mentioned except for Kimsa (need an extra veno to help me heal) and slyther (AoE gets me) using nothing but a few pots and an ocassional flourish orb (for slitt). I don't see any advantage in tanking yourself as pet heal is a far more efficient way to deal with damage than what mp a cleric would spend healing you, not to mention the added cost of repair bills. As for the extra survivability, i can deal with as much as 3-4 extra mobs at my range with a build that is int at above my level times 4 (36 vit) using soul transfussion or bramble hood and hp pots. Limiting your capacity to grind and solo TT for no real advantage doesn't seem like a good strategy, and this is in part the reason foxform is not recomended until 70+, and then adding no vit. I hope my comment didn't seem mean to you, it's just my intention to point out some of the flaws on the build you described to help you improve it.0
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Surfer_Rosa - Sanctuary wrote: »While i apreciate the intent behind your post and really don't mean to rain on your parade, i do feel like making a couple of observations. LA, even if not at your level, plus vit seems like a bad idea. As an arcane at your same level i can solo all of the bosses you mentioned except for Kimsa (need an extra veno to help me heal) and slyther (AoE gets me) using nothing but a few pots and an ocassional flourish orb (for slitt). I don't see any advantage in tanking yourself as pet heal is a far more efficient way to deal with damage than what mp a cleric would spend healing you, not to mention the added cost of repair bills. As for the extra survivability, i can deal with as much as 3-4 extra mobs at my range with a build that is int at above my level times 4 (36 vit) using soul transfussion or bramble hood and hp pots. Limiting your capacity to grind and solo TT for no real advantage doesn't seem like a good strategy, and this is in part the reason foxform is not recomended until 70+, and then adding no vit. I hope my comment didn't seem mean to you, it's just my intention to point out some of the flaws on the build you described to help you improve it.
You're not raining on my parade at all. Quite the opposite. Like I said, I'm trying to prompt discussion about what exactly is possible. Which is exactly what you're doing. And yes, you are right about my build. It isn't as effective as the usual build for what a veno is supposed to be doing. My build was built more out of need than of anything else. I have several Venos in my faction that follow the builds set by guidelines, Pure Mag, LA, Arcane, etc. What I am, is sort of a "fit this task" build. I will never be the best at anything, but I have a solution for most things. Plus, the bonus of my build is that I can keep an eye on people when things go wrong in FB's. You get a wandering add heading for the cleric, rather than having my pet go after it, I can take it out myself. I play protector.
Also, gratz on the soloing. That must be something to see. And thank you for the advice. But you're probably the 15th person to comment on it. The last person to say such a thing was a Barb equal to my level. We dueled. He lost. I still had half my HP. And, no, I didn't use Hood, or even Bramble Guard.
I'm comfortable with my build. Granted, it IS serverely gimpy, and you're right. It doesn't make much logical sense. But it is, without a doubt, MY build. And that alone makes it worth it for me.0 -
I'm pure mag. I can solo all FB's up to FB59. I've never been to FB69 but I hear that it's hard. I can solo all bosses cept krimson and similar ones. I can ALMOST do gargantakong. He's tankable for like 1 min but my herc hp steadily goes down. I can't outheal the damage yet. Most venos say at 73 you can do it and that seems about right with the new heal. Squad 1-2 I've soloed three times but had to skip Lord and Soulbanisher. My herc can take 10+ level 72 mobs on it easily. Kill speed is very fast.
Basically I can do everything that your wierd LA build can do, and more.
And at 90+ I'm gonna live in TT. Then I will emerge as a God with 5 nixes (JUST BECAUSE I CAN), 3 sets of +10 gear, +12 weapon, and 40 billion gold. b:laugh0 -
Literature - Harshlands wrote: »And at 90+ I'm gonna live in TT. Then I will emerge as a God with 5 nixes (JUST BECAUSE I CAN), 3 sets of +10 gear, +12 weapon, and 40 billion gold. b:laugh
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Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »
Also, gratz on the soloing. That must be something to see. QUOTE]
Not unless you're awed by spam healing, this is just what every other arcane veno can do. I'm not making an argument against trying new things but i'm simply discussing how feasible your build seems to me. I don't see that the role of secondary tank overwigths the advantages you give up with this build. You'll still be 4th choice at best, as you don't have a prayer of doing a better job than a BM, and the much higher evassion of an archer coupled with his stuns and knockback will make him better able to deal with extra mobs on instance runs (not to mention he will actually deal damage). LA fox builds are based on adding survivability while mantaining a veno's basic function, not on becoming a subpar tank. As for not using pets or skills like bramble or soul i don't believe i understand your attitude, it reminds me of those FACs that claim upgrading their res, buffs or heals somehow gimps them, even when they can spare the coins and the sp.0 -
Literature - Harshlands wrote: »Basically I can do everything that your wierd LA build can do, and more.
Except one, which is the most important one: not brag about doing something that pretty much every high magic veno can do because your build isn't new, special, or interesting: it's one out of zillion arcane mage venos floating around out there (numbers slightly exaggerated for effect).[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Well I went with my own form of the tank build... mainly using gear to boost Dex, and Str to deal with wielding weapons. So my Vit is higher then most... I can easily tank all FB19-59 (at lvl 75) Tank All world bosses that I've had to with 1 cleric Shade, Kimsa, Gouf, Virids, Jewel, Slit, Krimson(usually second clr to cure the primary), Quillhog King, Kong. I can solo FB19 (20-25 min killing everything), 29 (8-10 min killing everything)... 39 I could solo but would be a waste of my HP charm, Duo with a clr or wiz around 35 min (killing what I had to)... I've got 8.2k HP at lvl 75. I enjoy killing 3-6 same level mobs at same time... (Love my calamity axes)... (Barbarian) Was late when I posted
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Now, this i don't understand, u r not using a magic wep? are you a veno?Well I went with my own form of the tank build... mainly using gear to boost Dex, and Str to deal with wielding weapons. So my Vit is higher then most... I can easily tank all FB19-59 (at lvl 75) Tank All world bosses that I've had to with 1 cleric Shade, Kimsa, Gouf, Virids, Jewel, Slit, Krimson(usually second clr to cure the primary), Quillhog King, Kong. I can solo FB19 (20-25 min killing everything), 29 (8-10 min killing everything)... 39 I could solo but would be a waste of my HP charm, Duo with a clr or wiz around 35 min (killing what I had to)... I've got 8.2k HP at lvl 75. I enjoy killing 3-6 same level mobs at same time... (Love my calamity axes)...0 -
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Surfer_Rosa - have you ever heard about "thinking outside the box"? Barb doesn't mean only tank, cleric doesn't mean only healer, BM doesn't mean only DD dealer. Where's the fun if you blindly follow the guildelines just to create character "fit the most to their purpose"? Those who created "guidelines" went throught experiments to create those builds. It is only natural that some other players wants to move on and maybe create a new build through experiments. Seeking for the improvements, moves the world. If you don't dare to try something new, then don't bash those who actually dares to try.
Of course, barb in arcane armour and magic weapon or cleric with axes is bit weird.0 -
Surfer_Rosa - Sanctuary wrote: »Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »
Also, gratz on the soloing. That must be something to see. QUOTE]
Not unless you're awed by spam healing, this is just what every other arcane veno can do. I'm not making an argument against trying new things but i'm simply discussing how feasible your build seems to me. I don't see that the role of secondary tank overwigths the advantages you give up with this build. You'll still be 4th choice at best, as you don't have a prayer of doing a better job than a BM, and the much higher evassion of an archer coupled with his stuns and knockback will make him better able to deal with extra mobs on instance runs (not to mention he will actually deal damage). LA fox builds are based on adding survivability while mantaining a veno's basic function, not on becoming a subpar tank. As for not using pets or skills like bramble or soul i don't believe i understand your attitude, it reminds me of those FACs that claim upgrading their res, buffs or heals somehow gimps them, even when they can spare the coins and the sp.
Well, for one thing, I never said I don't use those skills. In fact, I have every single skill I can get my hands on at this point. I didn't use the bramble set for that Duel. I did use a pet, as the barb told me to. I normally don't use a pet in duels, and I still win. I can even hold my own in PK against a BM 10 levels higher than me.
And, yeah. I know that I'm going to be a secondary choice. Doesn't bother me in the least. But when someone says "Boss", I don't sit there and worry about waiting for a barb, and a handful of clerics to show up. I take a look at the faction list, take a look at my friend list, and form a party based on who, and what we have. I am the leader of my Faction. While everyone may not feel the same, I feel that it is MY duty to help every single one of my members to the best of my ability. I didn't create a faction so I can sit on the sidelines because the task in question is beyond my means. I go for it. Anyone needs help with a quest, boss, FB, it doesn't even matter, I'm there. With the way I play, I can do that. The other day, a friend of mine asked me for help with a boss. I, of course, went to help. The boss was Gouf. The BM tanking him? Yeah, he died. So what did I do? Without the aid of a Cleric, I fought him in Fox Form. And, I survived. Just recently, I fought Slitt. There was no Cleric to be found. I had Wizards healing me. No purify. Just 2 Wizards to stop the bleed damage from killing me. And yet again, it worked.
I know Venos are all about hiding behind their pet. Believe me... I know. But, why should we be forced to? That's like forcing a cleric to be a healing slave. Yeah, I know it's what they're designed to do, but I know an attack cleric, and it's kind of funny, but depending on the situation? I'd rather party with them. I also know a DD barb. Who is also rich. I can understand why you feel the way you do. I look at Pure Mag Venos, and wonder why. I can't understand how they can be on the verge of death at all times, if a random mob catches them without them seeing it coming. But, you know? I accept them, and party with them all the time. My best friend IRL? He's a Pure Mag Veno. We rib each other all the time about the other's build. He jokes about me getting whacked on, and hitting like a feather, I joke about how squishy he is, yet always pulling aggro off of everything.
And I'm kind of curious to see this Magic weapon wielding Barb Dame is referring to. I've already seen a cleric with Axes. It was kinda funny. Until he dueled me, and crushed me with no effort at all. Turns out? He had a backup Magic Weapon. Yeah. I got prepared to tank his Axes, and he got out a Mag Weapon. By the time I realized my mistake... it was already over. Of course... Then I got ready for the Magic attacks... And got cleaved. I'm never going to laugh at a Melee Cleric ever again.... Just like I'm never going to laugh at anyone else's build. If they really wanted you to create cookie cutters of each other, wouldn't they be like other MMO's, and not allow you to customize your stats like PW does? Force all Mages to wear Robes, all Tanks to wear Armor? I think PW wants you to discover for yourself how to play.
And, just one last thing, Surfer_Rosa? Yes, it is quite an accomplishment to solo bosses like that. Maybe it's just commonplace for Mag Venos, but how about for other classes? What would you think if I told you I know a cleric that can solo certain FB59 bosses? In his 60's? Would you be impressed, or think, "Just another Cleric"? If you aren't impressed, then maybe that's just the person you are, and you know what? That's cool. Now go do something boring while another person sits, watches and wonders. b:chuckle0 -
there is a 7x veno on sanct that i've seen wielding TT70 axes. it's pretty interesting0
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Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »Surfer_Rosa - Sanctuary wrote: »What would you think if I told you I know a cleric that can solo certain FB59 bosses? In his 60's?
i always wondered with myself if i could do the three of 5 bosses in fb59. I figure im a cleric and those bosses are ranged magic , so sweetb:pleased
But im careful and never tried it....75 now i think ill be fine. Now i just gotta go look up the Metal, water and fire bosses in there and figure out what they drop to see if its even close to worth it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I have played a lot with my BM toon and you will see how weird my stats are at 68:
VIT: 3
MAG:3
STR:172
DEX:177
This allows me to make a good build for either fists or sword and use not too low level bows and poleaxe.
So, I switch between Fists, Sword, Poleaxe and Bow on the single mob (LOL)
What am I capable off:
Well, I keep many people staring at me, either for being weird or for owning mobs and make it look easy and efficient.
It's rare the day when somebody dont ask me:
Why do you switch weapons? Some like it or find it unecesary as too much work.
How many weapons do you have?
How do you do that?
I also switch armor from HA to LA depending on the case. For pure magic mob I use LA.
What I'm not capable?: tanking for long, I suck so far at PVP since my skills are distributed on the sword/fists and axes. So, the attack skills that I have are not leveled too much.
However, I will solve the skills issue as I get more spirits.0 -
feed your ego thread. awesome.
I'm just a boring old LA build (veno) that is done by the books and i can beat any class in duels.
And to feed someone elses ego.
I'm pretty sure Skynard (cleric) on sanc. can solo almost any magic boss there is..Q - How to win on Perfect World?
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That is a cool build Granrey! I'm just too chicken to go with super low Vit. As a Sword BM, I think my stats (at 44) are:I have played a lot with my BM toon and you will see how weird my stats are at 68:
VIT: 3
MAG:3
STR:172
DEX:177
STR 112
DEX 86
MAG 5
VIT 32
One on one, I can dish out good damage and rarely miss, but with some skills lacking due to low cash, I could definitely be better.
Good at:
* taking out mobs 1 at a time
* protection duties b/c I can kill something quickly
* enough Vit to withstand boss AOE's.
* soloing
Not so good:
* tanking? forget it, I'll leave that to the real tanks.
* seriously lacking in AOE's so multiple mobs give me problems (you wanna do this? go axes)0 -
*leaps into the scene* Light Armor Wizard here! Lets see, stat-wise...with bonuses...
5 VIT
247 MAG
80 STR
85 DEX
What I can do:
Grind like no tomorrow!
Kill said grinding mobs before they launch one attack on me.
Get incredibly lucky and deal at least one crit on most every mob. (Only 6% crit at the moment)
Crit Sandstorm for 21k right now! xP
What I CANNOT do:
Duel or PvP to save my life (no pun intended)
...everything else...? b:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...0 -
OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »Except one, which is the most important one: not brag about doing something that pretty much every high magic veno can do because your build isn't new, special, or interesting: it's one out of zillion arcane mage venos floating around out there (numbers slightly exaggerated for effect).
So what? I'm trying to show the op that his build can easily be outdone by a "boring" build. Only time that build would be good is if he had a nix. But he said nothing about that. ;o
And you might wanna look again at WHO made this bragging thread. It wasn't me. >:D
Once again, think before you post. How many times do I have to say it?
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Literature - Harshlands wrote: »So what? I'm trying to show the op that his build can easily be outdone by a "boring" build. Only time that build would be good is if he had a nix. But he said nothing about that. ;o
And you might wanna look again at WHO made this bragging thread. It wasn't me. >:D
Once again, think before you post. How many times do I have to say it?
Oh, I see, so you're post was simply to flame the OP. Gotcha.
You might want to take your own advice, lit.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Literature - Harshlands wrote: »I'm pure mag. I can solo all FB's up to FB59. I've never been to FB69 but I hear that it's hard. I can solo all bosses cept krimson and similar ones. I can ALMOST do gargantakong. He's tankable for like 1 min but my herc hp steadily goes down. I can't outheal the damage yet. Most venos say at 73 you can do it and that seems about right with the new heal. Squad 1-2 I've soloed three times but had to skip Lord and Soulbanisher. My herc can take 10+ level 72 mobs on it easily. Kill speed is very fast.
Basically I can do everything that your wierd LA build can do, and more.
And at 90+ I'm gonna live in TT. Then I will emerge as a God with 5 nixes (JUST BECAUSE I CAN), 3 sets of +10 gear, +12 weapon, and 40 billion gold. b:laugh
LoL this post is not a flame. It's actually on topic no matter how much you think it's bragging. But this :OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »Oh, I see, so you're post was simply to flame the OP. Gotcha.
You might want to take your own advice, lit.
...this is the flame. This and about 90% of your posts on this board.0 -
Hello all,
Lets not look at this thread as a bragging thread but one where we get to highlight our toons strengths.
Now about my BM. I am an Axe BM who will be investing some SP in sword mastery soon. As far as skills go I am working on maxing all my stuns and AoE's I pick and choose as i see fit. My build is as follows for level 67.
str 207
dex 102
vit 36
mag 5
In party's I take it upon myself to protect the squishy's. I let the kitty do the tanking( i can tank all fb's up to 51 but I usually don't; not my role, I can not tank the magic bosses like jewel, manta, etc...And there are a few i have not had the chance to do. Being as my buddy is a barb...he usually does the tanking for bosses)Anyways I digress, I often refer to myself as the skirmisher. Most of the time I can just AoE multiple mobs with tank and cleric will alternate heals. Yes I am a DD but more importantly if someone pulls aggro from tank to themselves its my job to stop that monster. This is where my stuns come greatly in handy. I can stun them long enough for either me or the Tank to pull aggro away from squad mate.....
If we are fighting a boss and some adds show up; again its my job to let Barb bash away at boss and for me to run to protect the rest of our group. Cleric doesn't need to worry about me and can concentrate on barb till I clean up. Then back to old DD'n.
Anyways, the only thing I notice about my build from the cookie cutter Axe Bm; is that i have lower vit. But i make up for this with HP shards in my gear. I think its a better route to take. I like to hit my targets.
Other then that my build isn't anything too special. Its the player behind the build that makes a toon rock....or not.
And remember most of all....Have fun playing your build!! Its what the game is really about.Retired
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Literature - Harshlands wrote: »So what? I'm trying to show the op that his build can easily be outdone by a "boring" build. Only time that build would be good is if he had a nix. But he said nothing about that. ;o
And you might wanna look again at WHO made this bragging thread. It wasn't me. >:D
Once again, think before you post. How many times do I have to say it?
Just note one thing, here, Lit. I never said your build was boring, now did I? Second off, yes, I made this thread, and I explained why. You see this little thing called discussion going on? People are talking. From a post originally made by a Veno, people are giving specific details on what exactly they did to their BM build. That's what I wanted to flow here. Information. Boring, as you say, or exotic, every build has it's place in the game. And the more people understand about how this game works, and what exactly is, and isn't viable, the more likely you are to have a decent player beside you in a squad.
And, yes. I'm well aware anything I can do, you can do better. I've seen several of your posts talking about exactly what it is you can do. Congratulations. You've taken what everyone considers the "Normal Veno Build" and proven that you aren't just another idiot who plugs away with it. Seriously, despite your trolling that you started with the first reply, I am happy for you. You've discovered how to play. b:victory Now stop trolling, and explain the highlights, and WHY it works, instead of just saying "It works, you suck."0 -
AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear wrote: »
And remember most of all....Have fun playing your build!! Its what the game is really about.
That's the pointb:victory0
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