what debufs and bufs should get

Mentosboy - Harshlands
Mentosboy - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
edited April 2009 in Cleric
what debufs and bufs should getb:victoryb:thanksb:pleasedb:puzzled
Post edited by Mentosboy - Harshlands on

Comments

  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    For buffs, Spirit's Gift and Vanguard spirit first, then others. For debuffs, Chromatic Seal first, then others. Buffs come before debuffs.
  • Zephyrx - Lost City
    Zephyrx - Lost City Posts: 1,563 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    What debuffs and buffs should I get...

    The answer is : yes.

    (O god, I have no idea what kind of poll your running rofl)
    Position: Professional Forum Troll
    Position Details: Be able to incite people to flames and perform miracles such as telling people what's right and what's wrong. Be able to dish out flames to other people so fire extinguishers are needed to put out the flames. Most of all, giving others a piece of reality.

    ZephyrX is better than crack... he's your Anti-Drug
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    What debuffs and buffs should I get...

    The answer is : yes.

    (O god, I have no idea what kind of poll your running rofl)

    Buffs:
    Spirit's Gift is the most important. It increases your damage and your squad's damage dealers' damage.

    Vanguard is second priority. Your squad's tank will need it to function better with the increased p.def.

    Magic shell is not as important. It improves m.def, not as useful for typical tanking.

    Don't get Celestrial Guardians Seal until maxing everything else. It increases hp/mp regen, which sounds useful, but the amount is too small for each level to matter much anyway.

    Debuffs:
    Chromatic Seal is most important, it sleeps the target. Necessary for pvp.

    Elemental Seal is not very useful. It decreases both target's and your own m.def, which means more damage. But the amount is low. Lvl only when you have spare SP.

    Dimensional Seal is less useful. Same as elemental, but for p.def. Somewhat helps tank keeping aggro. But not by much.

    Silence Seal is useless. Do not level.

    Buffs should take priority over debuffs.
  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    mothergoose, what you mean silence seal is useless? don't give advice.
    elemental seal not useful? when I do bosses that seal adds about 1k damage in fb59 I did this with 2 wizards and myself, +1k damage for 20 seconds, don't deny its usefulness.

    Silence seal - Manipulate your energy to form the Seal of Silence. Suffer a 6.0 second attack damage by reduction of 50% to paralyze an enemy for up to 16.8 seconds.

    Demon seal - Does not reduce your magic attack

    Seriously... how can you tell someone not to level it.

    Magic shell is very important.
    We're MysticAve my name is not Dave
    (Poem in the making - Shall be epic)
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    i maxed 2 of my bufs to now and im looking forward to lvl53 i vil be able to max another 1 ^^b:laugh and for the seals: i use em sometimes in fb boses or for cultivations but im not taking them seriouslyb:bye

    and about your pool ? the answer can be yes or no? and the question is which one u seriously ned to fix that
    Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Badass_panda - Heavens Tear
    Badass_panda - Heavens Tear Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    The poll was badass
  • _WillFire_ - Sanctuary
    _WillFire_ - Sanctuary Posts: 563 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I voted yes. b:chuckle
    Mark 12:29-37
    _WillFire_ 8x Combat Medic
  • Samalia - Sanctuary
    Samalia - Sanctuary Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    level your buffs to the max as soon as you can.
    dont get celestial guardians spirit, its a waste of time and spirit and doesnt really help you past lv 40

    level your debuffs as you see fit. personally, i only level my magic defence debuff. my play style makes me want to hit my highest possible damage and that hit wont be done with plume shot so i left the phys debuff out.

    chromatic seal is the only one that i would consider mandatory. its particularly useful in pvp, though its pve uses are limited. (from my experience anyway)
    it also helps when a squad member takes aggression from a tank. get it at least to level 1, but you could choose to leave it at lv 1 until level 70+ when pvp becomes more common. dont take my word as law on that point though, because ive not reached that point yet
  • Secilia - Lost City
    Secilia - Lost City Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Priority goes to vangaurd, magic shell and spirits gift. Max those as soon as possible. Guardian Seal isnt so important because wen maxed it onyl gives 10mp/hp recover and it costs too much sp to level. Level it casually wen u have extra sp.

    You don't really have to worry about debuffs right now. They are not so important for ur lvl. And comparing debuffs to buffs, the buffs are way more important.
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    mothergoose, what you mean silence seal is useless? don't give advice.
    elemental seal not useful? when I do bosses that seal adds about 1k damage in fb59 I did this with 2 wizards and myself, +1k damage for 20 seconds, don't deny its usefulness.

    Silence seal - Manipulate your energy to form the Seal of Silence. Suffer a 6.0 second attack damage by reduction of 50% to paralyze an enemy for up to 16.8 seconds.

    Demon seal - Does not reduce your magic attack

    Seriously... how can you tell someone not to level it.

    Magic shell is very important.

    Are you actually interested in giving advice or just here to flame?b:shutup

    Everything can be useful, some are just more so than others.

    When you have to choose between Chromatic Seal and Silence Seal, of course it's Chromatic.

    When you have to choose between Spirit's Gift and Elemental Seal, of course it's Spirit's Gift.

    When you have to choose from Vanguard and Magic Shell, it's Vanguard.

    OP wanted to know which to choose first precisely because there isn't enough SP/coins to get it all at early lvl. If your advice is to choose Silence over Chromatic Seal, it's bad advice. If you want OP to get it all, it's useless advice.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I would say buff Thnderball.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I would say buff Thnderball.

    lol no way thunder ball is no use not even for the finish way too long cast and it takes too long to realy take afect
    Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    lol no way thunder ball is no use not even for the finish way too long cast and it takes too long to realy take afect

    That was clearly a joke and/or bait.b:chuckle
  • missqq
    missqq Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    you should definitely get yes buffs.
  • Santra - Heavens Tear
    Santra - Heavens Tear Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    All buffs are great and yes you need them as its easier to buff everyone in a group instead of one by one and not to mention its one hour buff

    For debuffs Elemental Seal and the phy debuff are great both are very useful in PvP and PvE debuff bosses and so on but wont see really any result until higher lvl
    Santra
    Attk Cleric FTW b:laugh
  • Livedeath - Heavens Tear
    Livedeath - Heavens Tear Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Are you actually interested in giving advice or just here to flame?b:shutup

    Everything can be useful, some are just more so than others.

    When you have to choose between Chromatic Seal and Silence Seal, of course it's Chromatic.

    When you have to choose between Spirit's Gift and Elemental Seal, of course it's Spirit's Gift.

    When you have to choose from Vanguard and Magic Shell, it's Vanguard.

    OP wanted to know which to choose first precisely because there isn't enough SP/coins to get it all at early lvl. If your advice is to choose Silence over Chromatic Seal, it's bad advice. If you want OP to get it all, it's useless advice.

    Actually in TW Silent Seal is more useful. Sleep breaks after the target is attacked. And in TW where so many attacks are thrown around. Sleep's effectiveness will be minimal Silent seal maxed against cat pullers is way more effective as it allows dd to take it down.
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Actually in TW Silent Seal is more useful. Sleep breaks after the target is attacked. And in TW where so many attacks are thrown around. Sleep's effectiveness will be minimal Silent seal maxed against cat pullers is way more effective as it allows dd to take it down.

    OP's question is what should take priority. He's lvl 20 right now. By TW time, there'll be enough SP and coins to go around anyway. Between the two, Chromatic Seal should take priority.

    Again, everything can be useful, some are just more so than others. At OP's level, there isn't enough SP to get everything so you'll have to prioritize.
  • SATII - Lost City
    SATII - Lost City Posts: 202 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    At low levels like that, no debuff should be leveled at all. Lv1-4 chrom/silent seals are utterly useless. Elem/Dimen seals are only useful in 1v1's at that level, but an extra 1x% damage of 500 is neglible.

    And yeah... silent seal useless? There are many many times where I wished my silent seal was not level 1 - far too many to count. Chrom seal on cooldown and a BM/WB chasing you? Silent seal. Phoenix charging at you? Silence it and sleep the veno. No longer will the sleep need to be wasted on the nix. And the whole sleep breaking after a hit... yeah.
  • Mentosboy - Harshlands
    Mentosboy - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    thx evryone
  • Zephyrx - Lost City
    Zephyrx - Lost City Posts: 1,563 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    The poll was badass

    QFT from a person who knows bad
    Position: Professional Forum Troll
    Position Details: Be able to incite people to flames and perform miracles such as telling people what's right and what's wrong. Be able to dish out flames to other people so fire extinguishers are needed to put out the flames. Most of all, giving others a piece of reality.

    ZephyrX is better than crack... he's your Anti-Drug