New Players and Rare Pets

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  • Flauschkatze - Heavens Tear
    Flauschkatze - Heavens Tear Posts: 998 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    What I really find stupid is the people who complain about venos taming all the rare pets just to sell them, then those same venos that complain go right out and buy them. You sort of just defeated your own argument.

    I think that was directed at me, not at you, morbiuss.
    (and I know she is right >.< I had the choice between buying a mount or a kitty, I went for the kitty. I LOVE CATS!! b:avoid)

    rare pets really don't have better stats, and you won't level faster with one. they're just... small and cute.

    channeling gear is available at lvl 20.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    The motivation to not be a greedy *insert nasty names here* and actually help out somone else for once rather than your own wallet.
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    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • morbiuss
    morbiuss Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    exactly zoe dont get mad at him he cant help that his panties didnt come out the color he wanted them to be so thats a really important issue for him and unfortunately since hes not a veno he doesnt udnerstand the mechanics of huge pet in ur screen versus small pet in ur screen+the fact that shaodu cub and magmite have almost the same stats with the shaodu being far better because of its small size :)

    so yeah zoe dont blame the haters for there ignorance


    btw Efox has like -70% channeling there is no way possible to get that much - channeling at level 20 and then throw in the 50% faster channeling pills u get at lvl 70ish and bingo I dont have a chance
  • Ashuransteel - Sanctuary
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Its players like you that kill games.

    and its players like you that give stupid information/brag too much who invent noobs like this.
    why should we help a self righteous child?
    morbiuss wrote: »
    exactly zoe dont get mad at him he cant help that his panties didnt come out the color he wanted them to be so thats a really important issue for him and unfortunately since hes not a veno he doesnt udnerstand the mechanics of huge pet in ur screen versus small pet in ur screen+the fact that shaodu cub and magmite have almost the same stats with the shaodu being far better because of its small size :)

    and you idiot, I have an 80 veno on sanctuary, shes just banned right now for profanity and harassment. golems > shaodu in stats failbait
    HP Atk P.def M.def Acc. Dodge Atk/s m/s
    2934 3240 8792 5861 1354 1003 0.6 6.2 <- golem

    shaodu
    3149 1888 7594 7594 1649 1299 0.8 7.4

    offensively the golem is better, and doesnt cost ****
  • morbiuss
    morbiuss Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    of course im self righteous i got just as much right ot have a shadou cub as anyone else and newsflash 2 mil at lvl 20 for a new player is damn near impossible

    so lets be realistic and increase the number of spawns per day to like every 6 hours thats more than a fair request........4 times a day to limit the possibilities of efox being able to be at every one of the spawns
  • Flauschkatze - Heavens Tear
    Flauschkatze - Heavens Tear Posts: 998 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    dammit, you're all posting too fast!

    please use punctations, it's hard for me to read.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    and its players like you that give stupid information/brag too much who invent noobs like this.
    why should we help a self righteous child?

    This player is sick of the greed. If you complain about them then you are clearly part of the problem. Go die please, the world does not need greed in it.

    I have no interest in the rare pets at all but I ended up with one anyway. A friend of mine found the Armored Bear while they were doing WQ or something and told me about it. I went out and tamed the thing, this was a few weeks ago. I still have it today in my pet bag.

    Why did I tame it if I had no interest in the rare pets? To make sure that someone else could not just to sell it.
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    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    morbiuss wrote: »
    exactly zoe dont get mad at him he cant help that his panties didnt come out the color he wanted them to be so thats a really important issue for him and unfortunately since hes not a veno he doesnt udnerstand the mechanics of huge pet in ur screen versus small pet in ur screen+the fact that shaodu cub and magmite have almost the same stats with the shaodu being far better because of its small size :)

    so yeah zoe dont blame the haters for there ignorance


    btw Efox has like -70% channeling there is no way possible to get that much - channeling at level 20 and then throw in the 50% faster channeling pills u get at lvl 70ish and bingo I dont have a chance

    I dont hate venos, my best friends are venos. I;m level 67 thanks to venos. They do all my FB's. Why would I hate venos?

    All high level venos should tell new level veno players how to make coins in the game. And you know that camping for rare pets its not the best way to go.
  • Morbiuss - Heavens Tear
    Morbiuss - Heavens Tear Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    im willing to make a wager that the person bashing on me and my attempt to get the spawn tiems increased to 6 hours probably has a Veno alt on his server who does exactly the same thing Efox does on ours......and doesnt want to see his market get killed
  • Ashuransteel - Sanctuary
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    wow, you are a cynical fool if you think the selling of rare pets is greed.

    some people have needs too, you know? what if person A desperately wants her TT70 weapon but cannot afford it, and cant use a herc to TT? She catches a shaodu by luck. Is it greed that this poor player sells it, and get the gear she longed for? F* no.

    look at tear's earlier nightscream thread;
    the whole "i have a right to these pirates to solo on just as much as the zhenners do." isnt it selfish/greedy to interrupt a party just because of your own wants?

    theres two sides of a coin, and if he wants a pet he can level, earn some channeling gear, and tame/level it. or buy it. he doesnt need to sit and whine about something that is totally asinine.

    Edit: when my ban is lifted, i can show you my collection of rare pets/herc/phoenix, I have no need for a damn pet monopoly when I can run TT for twice as much $
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Here is my bear.

    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/foxdraco/2009-04-1712-16-12.jpg

    One less to be sold by some greedy player out there.
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    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Imuretay - Heavens Tear
    Imuretay - Heavens Tear Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    morbiuss wrote: »
    two words
    I do

    rare pets should not be monopolized in a video game by a select few if this problem is happening then this problem needs to be dealt with your guys' silence is why the problem has been allowed to continue and not be dealt with.....try looking at the rest fo the world

    World of Warcraft is the number one game in the world do you know why?
    because when ppl DONT like something they have the guts to SPEAK UP
    and the devs know damn well they need to take care of their people.....


    this game isnt World of Warcraft and I know its a free game with the purpose of making money off ppl willing to spend real life cash in the cash shop but guess what...you still have rights...and if you DONT LIKE something then you should SAY SO.


    im amazed that this has been going on for two years and no one has dared to speak up

    You think you're the first to have this complaint? Newsflash: This is not the first time this complaint has been argued on this forum, nor, unfortunately, will it be the last.

    In essence, here is what you're saying. You are level 20 so you should be able to tame a level 20 pet. That's fine. But maybe that wasn't the intent behind the rare pets to begin with.

    Now you're trying to push the developers to change the game to suit YOUR idea of what is fair. The problem is, as is demonstrated by the arguing in this topic, that your idea of what is fair is vastly different from what plenty of other people believe is fair. Entitlement complex anyone? Just because you are a level 20 veno doesn't mean that you are entitled to a lvl 20 rare pet.

    I agree with you that the higher level player shouldn't work the system the way she is. It's greed and nothing more. She should get a life, but on the other side of that coin... well, you should also.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    wow, you are a cynical fool if you think the selling of rare pets is greed.

    some people have needs too, you know? what if person A desperately wants her TT70 weapon but cannot afford it, and cant use a herc to TT? She catches a shaodu by luck. Is it greed that this poor player sells it, and get the gear she longed for? F* no.

    look at tear's earlier nightscream thread;
    the whole "i have a right to these pirates to solo on just as much as the zhenners do." isnt it selfish/greedy to interrupt a party just because of your own wants?

    theres two sides of a coin, and if he wants a pet he can level, earn some channeling gear, and tame/level it. or buy it. he doesnt need to sit and whine about something that is totally asinine.

    That's funny. I wanted my TT 70 gear and had no herc. You know what I did? I joined parties I saw in world chats and got my gear. I grinded for coins and got my gear. If I happen to tame a rare pet (I already have, read my other post) I'm going to keep the darn thing no matter how many coins I need.
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    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Flauschkatze - Heavens Tear
    Flauschkatze - Heavens Tear Posts: 998 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    the market wouldn't be killed, he'd still get the rare pets because he'd still be tha fastest. if not, the rares would probably be killed more often.

    (the "he" is not directed to any specific person.)

    btw, Efox had to work for her/his (?) gear too. that doesn't mean I support what s/he's doing.
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  • Ashuransteel - Sanctuary
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    That's funny. I wanted my TT 70 gear and had no herc. You know what I did? I joined parties I saw in world chats and got my gear. I grinded for coins and got my gear. If I happen to tame a rare pet (I already have, read my other post) I'm going to keep the darn thing no matter how many coins I need.

    way to take the example out of context, you didnt answer the question at all. you just provided a bullcrap anecdote which has to do with ones own personal morals, and nothing to do with said example.

    is there -any- cynicism whatsoever in selling the pet to get something -you- need? NO.

    thinking on a personal note; hell, i sold my shaodu to help get my freakin herc >_>; was that greedy? f* no.
  • mentallaxative
    mentallaxative Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    morbiuss wrote: »
    of course im self righteous i got just as much right ot have a shadou cub as anyone else and newsflash 2 mil at lvl 20 for a new player is damn near impossible

    There isn't a rule that says you have to get the cub when you hit level 20. I bought one at around level 30 and used it when it was that low a level.

    I don't have any ill will towards players who sell rare pets, though I wish the prices were less. When I initially considered taming my own rare pet, I considered the amount of patience that would go into camping it, and concluded that I'd make better use of my time killing mobs for money as it's more fun. So, I do sympathize with you but your hostile tone is not making your point any more convincing.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    way to take the example out of context, you didnt answer the question at all. you just provided a bullcrap anecdote which has to do with ones own personal morals, and nothing to do with said example.

    is there -any- cynicism whatsoever in selling the pet to get something -you- need? NO.

    thinking on a personal note; hell, i sold my shaodu to help get my freakin herc >_>; was that greedy? f* no.

    Yes it was. I was able to get hercules, phoenix, a maxed land mount, maxed air mount, tons of molds, tons of TT gear, lots of fashions, lots of makeover scrolls, lots of dragon orbs, basically, I can get whatever I want and guess what? I have never sold 1 rare pet. If you are unable to afford anything without selling them, you fail.

    I don't run TT for money either. I also bought my first 3 sage veno books for millions each, then it takes another mil on top of that to learn them. Did I sell a rare pet? Nope.
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    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yes it was. I was able to get hercules, phoenix, a maxed land mount, maxed air mount, tons of molds, tons of TT gear, lots of fashions, lots of makeover scrolls, lots of dragon orbs, basically, I can get whatever I want and guess what? I have never sold 1 rare pet. If you are unable to afford anything without selling them, you fail.

    I don't run TT for money either. I also bought my first 3 sage veno books for millions each, then it takes another mil on top of that to learn them. Did I sell a rare pet? Nope.

    This post should show the OP that there are better ways of getting coins than camping for rare pets.
  • Ellren - Lost City
    Ellren - Lost City Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    and its players like you that give stupid information/brag too much who invent noobs like this.
    why should we help a self righteous child?


    and you idiot, I have an 80 veno on sanctuary, shes just banned right now for profanity and harassment. golems > shaodu in stats failbait
    HP Atk P.def M.def Acc. Dodge Atk/s m/s
    2934 3240 8792 5861 1354 1003 0.6 6.2 <- golem

    shaodu
    3149 1888 7594 7594 1649 1299 0.8 7.4

    offensively the golem is better, and doesnt cost ****



    hmm when she said its people like you that ruins games she was right and by you saying that your veno was banned only proves it more especially given the reasons...
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  • Morbiuss - Heavens Tear
    Morbiuss - Heavens Tear Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    ina nutshell whose it gonna hurt to raise the spawn time to every 6 hours instead of every 12?
  • Redmenace - Heavens Tear
    Redmenace - Heavens Tear Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Granrey - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I did not meant to be rude. b:surrender

    ...

    Anyways, if you are level 56. You know that you need to do for you TT60 weapons (get squad of helpers and distribute drops). Venos in low 60's can make several solo runs per day, depending on how much time they have. Every run has a potential of 100K return or more depending on how many items they get.

    Not only that, couple levels after they can go solo in squad mode. More drops more money.

    I agree.

    But the OP is a lvl 20 veno, and from the message new to the server (not some long-time player who just happened to have a lvl 20 veno right now).

    This person is not a cash farmer like the lvl 70 venos you cite, and simply wants the opportunity go catch one of these rare pets after waiting all day. I realize it's easy to be jaded after all the time we spend on this game, and all the *ssclowns we have to deal with. But the only way to reverse the process is one person at a time, and not to join in on all the "**** you, *we* have to work hard, stop QQing and suck it up" talk.

    That just continues the attitude.

    I know this is they way many people on the server are, and I don't like it. I can't force others to act like Human Beings, but I can change my little part of the world and treat people that I encounter the way I'd like to be treated.

    How hard is that?


    RedMenace

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  • Ashuransteel - Sanctuary
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yes it was. I was able to get hercules, phoenix, a maxed land mount, maxed air mount, tons of molds, tons of TT gear, lots of fashions, lots of makeover scrolls, lots of dragon orbs, basically, I can get whatever I want and guess what? I have never sold 1 rare pet. If you are unable to afford anything without selling them, you fail.

    I don't run TT for money either. I also bought my first 3 sage veno books for millions each, then it takes another mil on top of that to learn them. Did I sell a rare pet? Nope.

    Your own freakin personal experiences are NOT someone elses. I find it absolute bull saying you have such and such things without selling rare pets, or running TT/FB for materials/molds. You dont make -millions- off looting dead monsters.
    you still have yet to prove to me where there is greed in selling a rare pet for a desperate need. you sound like youre running out of ideas and just posting absolute **** to fluff your argument up. just stand down already, you have no more valid points so just stfu.

    no one person has a right to deem selling a pet as wrong or greedy
    no one person is entitled to a pet just because theyre the same level as it
    no one cares about -zoe's- personal experiences in PW
    you still havent proven me wrong. be my guest, do it i dare you.

    show me how it makes me greedy for selling my shaodu for a couple mil.

    not to mention. armored bear is like the EASIEST rare pet to get rofl. if youre gunna brag about -1- make it one thats actually a challenge to catch like the cub or piggy. theres a limited amount of 8x players, and no competition for it.
    Q_Q; <- you

    btw; on a side note, i had all the mats/subs for my TT80 **** by 74, gold ones included. weapon already made. running TT squad alone, and crafting weapons/armor is fairly profitable
  • Redmenace - Heavens Tear
    Redmenace - Heavens Tear Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    and you idiot, I have an 80 veno on sanctuary, shes just banned right now for profanity and harassment.

    SHOCKED, I am Simply SHOCKED.

    RedMenace
    A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Actually I DO make millions killing monsters by grinding. It's where all my money has come from and its where it always will come from. 2 mil a day is nothing to me and I'll I do is grind.

    I can't count the number of times I'll start the day with less than 10k coins, do some grinding, spend a few hundred thousand to a mil or more that day, and still end the day with over a mil. Simply from grinding.
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    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Ellren - Lost City
    Ellren - Lost City Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Your own freakin personal experiences are NOT someone elses. I find it absolute bull saying you have such and such things without selling rare pets, or running TT/FB for materials/molds. You dont make -millions- off looting dead monsters.
    you still have yet to prove to me where there is greed in selling a rare pet for a desperate need. you sound like youre running out of ideas and just posting absolute **** to fluff your argument up. just stand down already, you have no more valid points so just stfu.

    no one person has a right to deem selling a pet as wrong or greedy
    no one person is entitled to a pet just because theyre the same level as it
    no one cares about -zoe's- personal experiences in PW
    you still havent proven me wrong. be my guest, do it i dare you.

    show me how it makes me greedy for selling my shaodu for a couple mil.

    not to mention. armored bear is like the EASIEST rare pet to get rofl. if youre gunna brag about -1- make it one thats actually a challenge to catch like the cub or piggy. theres a limited amount of 8x players, and no competition for it.
    Q_Q; <- you

    btw; on a side note, i had all the mats/subs for my TT80 **** by 74, gold ones included. weapon already made. running TT squad alone, and crafting weapons/armor is fairly profitable


    I totally agree with this.
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  • Ashuransteel - Sanctuary
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Actually I DO make millions killing monsters by grinding. It's where all my money has come from and its where it always will come from. 2 mil a day is nothing to me and I'll I do is grind.

    so in essence, youre admitting you have no life, and nothing better to do than flaunt an ego and be a noob on forums?
  • Redmenace - Heavens Tear
    Redmenace - Heavens Tear Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    so in essence, youre admitting you have no life, and nothing better to do than flaunt an ego and be a noob on forums?

    Actually, i think the point is that you're an annoying, arrogant little b*stard.

    At least, that was the impression that popped into my head.

    RedMenace
    A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
    Robert A. Heinlein
  • Ellren - Lost City
    Ellren - Lost City Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    This whole thing has gone way from the op original topic and has turned into nothing more than an argument.
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  • Ashuransteel - Sanctuary
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Am I free to put my seal of approval on this thread then? @ Red, Im narcissistic, not arrogant.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    so in essence, youre admitting you have no life, and nothing better to do than flaunt an ego and be a noob on forums?

    The point is, you fail at making money so you resort to scamming other players and can't seem to comprehend ways of making money that don't involve being greedy. The guild I'm in has 89 members at the moment. Guess what the majority of them do for coins? Grind, and none of us ever have money problems.

    Also, since when did being a full time college student, having a lot of homework as well as taking the hardest freaking major the college has yet still being able to grind out millions a day here and get high grades in my classes count as having no life?
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