Siren s kiss

twilighthikari
twilighthikari Posts: 24 Arc User
edited April 2009 in Cleric
Useful? Should I level it? Discuss.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Don't bother use plume shot and great cyclone lvl those up.You will want to wait untill you get wield thunder and tempest
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    twilighthikari wrote: »
    Useful? Should I level it? Discuss.

    Useful? Yes
    Level it? No

    Its a fast element aoe, so its very useful.
    Down back is that its 12m around you so you have to be close to the group of mobs to get em all.
    Now the biggest problem is your lack of spirit. First lv up your main spells then way later...like lv7X you can start thinking to lv it up.
    b:dirty
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I would still prefer tempest over it as you can use it from the air SKiss you can't.I guess it is personal preference.
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I would still prefer tempest over it as you can use it from the air SKiss you can't.I guess it is personal preference.

    Tempest 2 sparks, this is only 1. So if you had enuff spirit to lv them both, you would end up using Sirens Kiss more often in aoe grind.
    So we have 3 aoe attacks:
    1.razor feathers - your main aoe skill.
    2.Sirens Kiss - when you are ganged by few psy mobs.
    3.Tempest - you strongest skill, but you cant use it all the time.

    But as i said leave the Sirens Kiss for later, when you max your main skills, should be close to lv80..lol
    My tip is if you dont plan on AOE grind dont even bother getting tempest before lv70.
    b:dirty
  • _WillFire_ - Sanctuary
    _WillFire_ - Sanctuary Posts: 563 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Tempest 2 sparks, this is only 1. So if you had enuff spirit to lv them both, you would end up using Sirens Kiss more often in aoe grind.
    So we have 3 aoe attacks:
    1.razor feathers - your main aoe skill.
    2.Sirens Kiss - when you are ganged by few psy mobs.
    3.Tempest - you strongest skill, but you cant use it all the time.

    But as i said leave the Sirens Kiss for later, when you max your main skills, should be close to lv80..lol
    My tip is if you dont plan on AOE grind dont even bother getting tempest before lv70.

    Siren's Kiss is mainly used in AoE xp groups and TW. Tempest is great but that two spark limit is prohibitive in both these situations. More importantly Tempest is a great big flashing sign in TW that says "KILL ME". The animation will draw archers from the entire map. It might even draw archers from OUTSIDE the map b:shocked

    Siren's is very low keyed comparitively.

    All that being said it's a "wait" skill. You have more important stuff to level and spend coin on. Max your Razor Feathers first. Tempest second. Sirens third. Just my opinion.
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  • Bagoly_ - Sanctuary
    Bagoly_ - Sanctuary Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I have read somewhere that Siren's Kiss decreases threat. If this information is correct, this skill can be useful in dungeons as well. For example dealing some damage without stealing aggro from others. Share your experiences please...

    PS: Sorry for my weak english :)
  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Level it later on.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Bagoly_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I have read somewhere that Siren's Kiss decreases threat. If this information is correct, this skill can be useful in dungeons as well. For example dealing some damage without stealing aggro from others. Share your experiences please...

    PS: Sorry for my weak english :)

    Nvr heard that before...I know that it has a chance to freeze for 3 seconds.

    However, you would be better off using that required spark to get off a few plume shots.

    Save this one, mine is still at level 1....b:chuckle
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  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    This is a good skill there is no reason not to level it.
    if you have level 1 sirens kiss then you cannot deny that it is effective.
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  • Bagoly_ - Sanctuary
    Bagoly_ - Sanctuary Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I don't plan to level it before 70s. I'm just curious.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    This is a good skill there is no reason not to level it.
    if you have level 1 sirens kiss then you cannot deny that it is effective.

    Nvr said it was not a good still....just said to wait.

    I choose not to level it because I have used it maybe 2 times. And had to open it to learn other skills.

    To each there own in terms of the skills they utilize....was just giving my two cents...wait to level it.
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    All and all it has the potential to be a good skill to use, depending on you game style, but as we all say, leave it for end game.
    b:dirty
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    _WillFire_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Siren's Kiss is mainly used in AoE xp groups and TW. Tempest is great but that two spark limit is prohibitive in both these situations. More importantly Tempest is a great big flashing sign in TW that says "KILL ME". The animation will draw archers from the entire map. It might even draw archers from OUTSIDE the map b:shocked

    Siren's is very low keyed comparitively.

    All that being said it's a "wait" skill. You have more important stuff to level and spend coin on. Max your Razor Feathers first. Tempest second. Sirens third. Just my opinion.

    That gives me an idea about Razor Feathers when 1 or 2 mobs get close to you use more for self defence.I would still use Plume shot and Great Cyclone as my main damage.I would probably experiment with Tempest at lvl 60.
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    That gives me an idea about Razor Feathers when 1 or 2 mobs get close to you use more for self defence.I would still use Plume shot and Great Cyclone as my main damage.I would probably experiment with Tempest at lvl 60.

    You are still a low lv, and probably your razor feather is still lv1.
    b:dirty
  • Rinnve - Lost City
    Rinnve - Lost City Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    twilighthikari wrote: »
    Useful? Should I level it? Discuss.
    I've used it in two kind of situations:
    (1) in pvp when some melee gets too close and freeze/sleep are on cooldown. It is very useful to have another stun, even if it is not 100%. For that kind of use 1lvl is just enough, 'cause only damage is improved upon leveling.
    (2) in pve when speed-running lowlvl fbs. There i really wished to have highleveled siren's, it is so useful with it's good damage and fast casting... In fb19 I usually gathered all the mobs and tanked them with IH until tempest is ready but casting time is slow so it is easily interrupted; siren's kiss fits there perfectly but i had only 1lvl of it, too low even for fb19.

    I really doubt that it can be useful in other circumstances like solo aoe grinding 'cause of short range, so I'd suggest to level it only after all other useful skills are maxed.
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  • XeroLan - Heavens Tear
    XeroLan - Heavens Tear Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Rinnve - Lost City wrote: »
    I really doubt that it can be useful in other circumstances like solo aoe grinding 'cause of short range

    Actually I find it's a great way to finish off the mobs during AOE grinding. I've said it before in another thread but I usually gather 3 or 4 mobs with Razor Feathers> Tempest> Razor Feathers> Siren's Kiss. My RF is maxxed, SK is only lv 3 or 4, and Tempest is only lv 1, but I rarely ever need to hit mobs more than 4 times with that combo. Whenever I need to wait a second for cooldown I just pump an Ironheart until another skill is ready to go.

    Plus if the mobs still have a sliver of health left after SK, they're usually stunned and it gives you a second to jump out of the way if you need to.
  • krickster
    krickster Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    It's all too much to take in... i have no idea what im doing. Am i always supposed to be in a party??? Why are people always doing my work for me??b:surrender
  • SATII - Lost City
    SATII - Lost City Posts: 202 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    This is a good skill there is no reason not to level it.
    if you have level 1 sirens kiss then you cannot deny that it is effective.
    You HAVE to get it to level 1 so that's a kind of void statement... It'd be like saying thunderball is good cause you have it level 1
  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    SATII - Lost City wrote: »
    You HAVE to get it to level 1 so that's a kind of void statement... It'd be like saying thunderball is good cause you have it level 1

    You don't HAVE to get anything you don't even have to play this game, don't tell someone not to level a skill thats bull**** sure you need it to unlock otherskills but that's like saying.

    "oh don't go to the gym you don't get stronger I went there for 10 seconds touched a weight and saw no diffrence, stop going there" b:sad
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  • SATII - Lost City
    SATII - Lost City Posts: 202 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You don't HAVE to get anything you don't even have to play this game, don't tell someone not to level a skill thats bull**** sure you need it to unlock otherskills but that's like saying.

    "oh don't go to the gym you don't get stronger I went there for 10 seconds touched a weight and saw no diffrence, stop going there" b:sad
    Your analogy didn't even make sense. Your not even comparing two related actions. It's a false analogy.

    And I don't even get what you mean when you wrote "not to level a skill thats bull**** sure you need it to unlock otherskills".

    Where did I say not to level a skill, call a skill bull**** and moveover, which one are you even talking about.
  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    lol, learn to read. "don't tell someone not to level a skill, that's bull****"

    what you are doing is, you have LEVEL ONE sirens kiss and you are telling people it is not a good skill.

    "you buy a donut and you eat it, then you kill someone and eat another donut"

    There a better analogy you happy?
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  • SATII - Lost City
    SATII - Lost City Posts: 202 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lol, learn to read. "don't tell someone not to level a skill, that's bull****"

    what you are doing is, you have LEVEL ONE sirens kiss and you are telling people it is not a good skill.

    "you buy a donut and you eat it, then you kill someone and eat another donut"

    There a better analogy you happy?
    Well one, you never had a comma there before. Yes that's important as it changes the whole context of the phrase.

    Your 2nd line still means nothing. I still never said siren's kiss was a bad skill. And yes, I do have thunderball, it's even lv5 but I still think that it's bullcrap.

    Your analogy still sucks.

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