ROME burns

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear

I have recieved some sad news today from some friends of mine in ROME. The guild has died, and some of the members have formed a new guild. I had good times while in ROME, and wish the best for all those who are now on new adventures. May our paths meet again sometime to those I knew in ROME and liked. Good luck to those of you.

/salute b:victory

Veltore - Heavens Tear

Awww,i had some decent hopes for Rome.Atleast they attempted TW's.I hope the new faction will keep trying.Hopefully they didn't form the new faction because they couldn't win TW's.At if you first you don't succeed try try again.b:victory

Not,If you first lose QQ b:sad

At any rate GL to all Rome members past.b:sad

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear

Veltore - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Awww,i had some decent hopes for Rome.Atleast they attempted TW's.I hope the new faction will keep trying.Hopefully they didn't form the new faction because they couldn't win TW's.At if you first you don't succeed try try again.b:victory

Not,If you first lose QQ b:sad

At any rate GL to all Rome members past.b:sad

Nope no problem at all. It was switched to weed out those that werent loyal and such as Foxx clearly showed the reason why it needed to be done and why he wasnt invited to the new one. But Rome is still there, just not for TW any more.

Rofocal - Heavens Tear

As Leader of the Old and New faction i can say what is being done.

We were at close to 200 members and i did a 3 step process to Rome

Originally Rome was created with myself and Mediva ROfocal+MEdiva due to circumstances between us it has split to just myself Leading from here on out (no ill will towards mediva and i hope you have an awesome gaming future but plz have your new husband not bash me in chat and leave me the fk alone)

that said My new guild Belial Has moved all of Romes most loyal around 110 members and abandoned the rest that were whiners/crybabys/problem creators and pushy members to create a stronger core of players that will be friends and a close knit group of stress free individuals. We will eventually get back into tw yes, but for now its grindaholics anonymous and just having fun. Exploring the new demon realm for myself, and helping ppl get their tt gear and acting goofy.

Sorry to those that did not come over in the transfer I wish you well and the best of luck in your new guilds and for all the rest of you. Rome is not dead it burns in my new guilds hearts under a new name that is now ran by msyself only.

ty to all you loyal to rome and cya in Belial! b:victory

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear

Mia your too much, I left before ROME fell apart. And I've never said a bad word about ROME to anyone. Even in my post above I was nice, and had nothing bad to say about anyone.

Since you seem to lack this. I'll be the one to have some class and not respond to senseless attacks. People leave guilds for their own reasons. I had mine. I'll not air mine in public. If people left after I did, it has nothing to do with me. I did not tell anyone to leave, and if they did, they did so under their own accord, not mine. Could be they seen the same troubles I seen and left also. If your sore about that, I'm sorry. But it's not my problem.

Mia I thought you were a great guy, funny, witty. An all around good dude. Even after your little attack on me above, I'll not stoop to a lower level. I wish you well as I posted above. Rofocal, I'll comment about you too, as I'm sure now you have been told about this thread and will most likely see it. I got alot of respect for you. You've been through alot this past couple weeks. I wish only the best for you. And hope things go much better in the future. I am sorry I had to leave. But felt I needed to. And I'll keep my reasons private, no need to get into it here. I hope your new guild is a success, and lots of luck.

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Mia your too much, I left before ROME fell apart. And I've never said a bad word about ROME to anyone. Even in my post above I was nice, and had nothing bad to say about anyone.

Since you seem to lack this. I'll be the one to have some class and not respond to senseless attacks. People leave guilds for their own reasons. I had mine. I'll not air mine in public. If people left after I did, it has nothing to do with me. I did not tell anyone to leave, and if they did, they did so under their own accord, not mine. Could be they seen the same troubles I seen and left also. If your sore about that, I'm sorry. But it's not my problem.

Mia I thought you were a great guy, funny, witty. An all around good dude. Even after your little attack on me above, I'll not stoop to a lower level. I wish you well as I posted above. Rofocal, I'll comment about you too, as I'm sure now you have been told about this thread and will most likely see it. I got alot of respect for you. You've been through alot this past couple weeks. I wish only the best for you. And hope things go much better in the future. I am sorry I had to leave. But felt I needed to. And I'll keep my reasons private, no need to get into it here. I hope your new guild is a success, and lots of luck.

I suggest you read your thread title before claiming you didnt do any personal attacks and the fact you came on here posting it.

Sorry to say but the facts still remain that is why it was done. And those that didnt fit were not asked to move on.

I didnt attack you I just said those that dint fit werent invited. However I can attack with the best of them if you so wish.

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I suggest you read your thread title before claiming you didnt do any personal attacks and the fact you came on here posting it.

Sorry to say but the facts still remain that is why it was done. And those that didnt fit were not asked to move on.

I didnt attack you I just said those that dint fit werent invited. However I can attack with the best of them if you so wish.

Where does such childish anger come from may I ask? And how does ROME burns end up being a personal attack on anyone? In the OP, nothing but nice things were said, and you come on here and spew vomit. Shame shame.

You have absolutely no reason to be upset at me for anything. Knock off the threats and insults.

Nomaad - Heavens Tear

now, now kids...dont make me have to separate you...b:chuckle

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear

Nomaad - Heavens Tear wrote: »

now, now kids...dont make me have to separate you...b:chuckle

Hey Maad, miss u bud.

Defected - Heavens Tear

I am disappointed that Rome has disbanded. Rome was a guild that kept on TWing consistently. You cannot help but respect a guild for its fighting spirit.

It is my hope, and the hope of many other TW guilds, that Rome will recoup to continue TWing and that Belial will do the same.

Nomaad - Heavens Tear

Belial will TW eventually, after some retooling and strengthening....b:victory

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear

Defected - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I am disappointed that Rome has disbanded. Rome was a guild that kept on TWing consistently. You cannot help but respect a guild for its fighting spirit.

It is my hope, and the hope of many other TW guilds, that Rome will recoup to continue TWing and that Belial will do the same.

Classy post, and if I may add nice new Siggy. b:chuckle

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Where does such childish anger come from may I ask? And how does ROME burns end up being a personal attack on anyone? In the OP, nothing but nice things were said, and you come on here and spew vomit. Shame shame.

At least Rofo shows class. You Mia show trash.

LOL trying to put the blame on me huh. Well lets see then. Things werent going well. You left because-

FoxxTrott wrote:

I'm at work right now, so I can't really do anything at the moment, but after yesterdays events. I regret to announce my resignation as executor of the guild, and most likely my leaving the guild tomorrow sometime when I get back home from work, and able to get online and into the game.

I have been thinking about this all evening, and the more I think about it, the less I really want to deal with certain things that have been going on, and allowed to happen. I will really miss some of you all. As you truly became good friends of mine. And so many of you I think the world of. You will be missed, I assure you of that.

I have no plans on going to any other guild right now. And think maybe time alone, and doing my own thing for a while away from all the arguing and drama will do me good.

If things ever change, and ROME gets back on track, maybe someday I'll be back, that is if I'm welcome. Take care folks, and I wish all the best to those of you I was able to call a friend.

And yet you already are in another faction, State that the faction burned down, help in causing more drama than was needed, shall I go on. The only childish person here was you in posting this here.

As I and Rofo have stated those that were loyal and that have been asked to move over to the new faction, and not those that bailed when things got rough. Dont like it well sorry to inform you thats what you did.

This thread alone shows by your own actions why things were done to make the new faction. That is the type of thing we are moving away from.

As Rofo here said-

Rofocal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

that said My new guild Belial Has moved all of Romes most loyal around 110 members and abandoned the rest that were whiners/crybabys/problem creators and pushy members to create a stronger core of players that will be friends and a close knit group of stress free individuals. We will eventually get back into tw yes, but for now its grindaholics anonymous and just having fun. Exploring the new demon realm for myself, and helping ppl get their tt gear and acting goofy.

Sorry to those that did not come over in the transfer I wish you well and the best of luck in your new guilds and for all the rest of you. Rome is not dead it burns in my new guilds hearts under a new name that is now ran by msyself only.

ty to all you loyal to rome and cya in Belial! b:victory

Defected - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I am disappointed that Rome has disbanded. Rome was a guild that kept on TWing consistently. You cannot help but respect a guild for its fighting spirit.

It is my hope, and the hope of many other TW guilds, that Rome will recoup to continue TWing and that Belial will do the same.

Dont worry Defected, we have only changed the name. We're here to stay.

Defected - Heavens Tear

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Classy post, and if I may add nice new Siggy. b:chuckle

b:thanks Thanks, my lover Cat made it for me.

Did I say lover?

The ladies of Enrage are going to kill me. I have already promised 8 of them that I'd marry them. I hope they don't read this post. b:avoid


I'd like to see one of the Rome/Belial get on the map, just so the other could attack them. THAT would be a nice TW.

Nomaad - Heavens Tear

s'ok defected...ill keep it bumped...b:laugh

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear

Oh I think your doing a splendid job of showing who's the childish one here. ROFL It would seem you are doing all the adding drama here. I've repeatedly said nice things, and won't stoop to your level. As far as my being in another faction now, has nothing to do with my leaving. As I was asked by them to join after I had left ROME, and did not persuit it myself. But that is my business not anyone else's. Especially not yours.

Cat - Heavens Tear

Personally I dont see anything wrong with Foxx's posts. Nor in his reason for leaving the guild. That wasnt a very emo or drama filled goodbye post.

As for the title of this thread, I dont think it reflected badly on Rome either but rather a creative pun based on having the name Rome.

I think you are making the guild look worse Mia than anything Foxx has said on here so far, I would relax if you are worried about your "image" for the guild.

As far as the rest, Rome seemed like a decent guild and at least they did try to break into the TW scene. I wish more guilds would try as well.

Good Luck and hopefully see you bidding again soon.

Cat - Heavens Tear

Defected - Heavens Tear wrote: »

b:thanks Thanks, my lover Cat made it for me.

Did I say lover?

The ladies of Enrage are going to kill me. I have already promised 8 of them that I'd marry them. I hope they don't read this post. b:avoid


I'd like to see one of the Rome/Belial get on the map, just so the other could attack them. THAT would be a nice TW.

b:chuckle Your lucky I love you! I dont mind the other wives, I just call dibs on not having to be the one who has to clean, cook, do dishes, or laundry b:thanks

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear

Cat - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Personally I dont see anything wrong with Foxx's posts. Nor in his reason for leaving the guild. That wasnt a very emo or drama filled goodbye post.

As for the title of this thread, I dont think it reflected badly on Rome either but rather a creative pun based on having the name Rome.

I think you are making the guild look worse Mia than anything Foxx has said on here so far, I would relax if you are worried about your "image" for the guild.

As far as the rest, Rome seemed like a decent guild and at least they did try to break into the TW scene. I wish more guilds would try as well.

Good Luck and hopefully see you bidding again soon.

Thanks to you Cat as you seen what I wrote for exactly as I had intended. I will say it again, I had good times while in ROME. I met some fantastic folks. And will keep many great memories, no matter what Mia says. I even have fond memories of him too. I dunno what is causing all this hate flung my way. But I don't think I deserved it, even a little bit. But oh well.

Crystabella - Heavens Tear

Defected - Heavens Tear wrote: »

b:thanks Thanks, my lover Cat made it for me.

Did I say lover?

The ladies of Enrage are going to kill me. I have already promised 8 of them that I'd marry them. I hope they don't read this post. b:avoid


I'd like to see one of the Rome/Belial get on the map, just so the other could attack them. THAT would be a nice TW.

You have some serious explaining to do! Not only have you proposed to 9 Enrage females...I was not one of themb:sad

Now I really need for the server to come back up...this is going to take at least 2 pairs of shoes to get over b:angry

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear

Cat - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Personally I dont see anything wrong with Foxx's posts. Nor in his reason for leaving the guild. That wasnt a very emo or drama filled goodbye post.

As for the title of this thread, I dont think it reflected badly on Rome either but rather a creative pun based on having the name Rome.

I think you are making the guild look worse Mia than anything Foxx has said on here so far, I would relax if you are worried about your "image" for the guild.

As far as the rest, Rome seemed like a decent guild and at least they did try to break into the TW scene. I wish more guilds would try as well.

Good Luck and hopefully see you bidding again soon.

Starting with His thread title for starters. Yes its bad whether he meant it to be or not. Bringing it here made it worse. Things that shouldnt have been brought here to the forums plain and simple.

Foxx - Im glad you enjoyed your time in ROME. It was a great faction, however there was no reason to post what you did here.


Cat- you dont have to worry about me worry about Romes image its over, No where did I state anything about its image. Not us that have to worry about there image b:laugh

Dont worry you will be seeing us when the times right for TW's.

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Starting with His thread title for starters. Yes its bad whether he meant it to be or not. Bringing it here made it worse. Things that shouldnt have been brought here to the forums plain and simple.

Foxx - Im glad you enjoyed your time in ROME. It was a great faction, however there was no reason to post what you did here.


Cat- you dont have to worry about me worry about Romes image its over, No where did I state anything about its image. Not us that have to worry about there image b:laugh

Dont worry you will be seeing us when the times right for TW's.

Think what you want Mia, your just embarrassing yourself. Continue on, this is getting funny.

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Think what you want Mia, your just embarrassing yourself. Continue on, this is getting funny.

Oh really. You are the one whos crying over being harrased and that. But you want funny. Well the fact that the truth is hurting you is the funny part.

so lets see here.

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Nope no problem at all. It was switched to weed out those that werent loyal and such as Foxx clearly showed the reason why it needed to be done and why he wasnt invited to the new one. But Rome is still there, just not for TW any more.

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I suggest you read your thread title before claiming you didnt do any personal attacks and the fact you came on here posting it.

Sorry to say but the facts still remain that is why it was done. And those that didnt fit were not asked to move on.

I didnt attack you I just said those that dint fit werent invited. However I can attack with the best of them if you so wish.

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear wrote: »

LOL trying to put the blame on me huh. Well lets see then. Things werent going well. You left because-


And yet you already are in another faction, State that the faction burned down, help in causing more drama than was needed, shall I go on. The only childish person here was you in posting this here.

As I and Rofo have stated those that were loyal and that have been asked to move over to the new faction, and not those that bailed when things got rough. Dont like it well sorry to inform you thats what you did.

This thread alone shows by your own actions why things were done to make the new faction. That is the type of thing we are moving away from.

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Starting with His thread title for starters. Yes its bad whether he meant it to be or not. Bringing it here made it worse. Things that shouldnt have been brought here to the forums plain and simple.

Foxx - Im glad you enjoyed your time in ROME. It was a great faction, however there was no reason to post what you did here.


Cat- you dont have to worry about me worry about Romes image its over, No where did I state anything about its image. Not us that have to worry about there image b:laugh

Dont worry you will be seeing us when the times right for TW's.

No where does it say anything about personal attacks unless stating the fact that you bailed when things were rough for ur own reasons.

So lets look at your posts now shall we.

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Mia your too much, I left before ROME fell apart. And I've never said a bad word about ROME to anyone. Even in my post above I was nice, and had nothing bad to say about anyone.

Since you seem to lack this. I'll be the one to have some class and not respond to senseless attacks. People leave guilds for their own reasons. I had mine. I'll not air mine in public. If people left after I did, it has nothing to do with me. I did not tell anyone to leave, and if they did, they did so under their own accord, not mine. Could be they seen the same troubles I seen and left also. If your sore about that, I'm sorry. But it's not my problem.

Mia I thought you were a great guy, funny, witty. An all around good dude. Even after your little attack on me above, I'll not stoop to a lower level. I wish you well as I posted above. Rofocal, I'll comment about you too, as I'm sure now you have been told about this thread and will most likely see it. I got alot of respect for you. You've been through alot this past couple weeks. I wish only the best for you. And hope things go much better in the future. I am sorry I had to leave. But felt I needed to. And I'll keep my reasons private, no need to get into it here. I hope your new guild is a success, and lots of luck.

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Where does such childish anger come from may I ask? And how does ROME burns end up being a personal attack on anyone? In the OP, nothing but nice things were said, and you come on here and spew vomit. Shame shame.

You have absolutely no reason to be upset at me for anything. Knock off the threats and insults.

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Oh I think your doing a splendid job of showing who's the childish one here. ROFL It would seem you are doing all the adding drama here. I've repeatedly said nice things, and won't stoop to your level. As far as my being in another faction now, has nothing to do with my leaving. As I was asked by them to join after I had left ROME, and did not persuit it myself. But that is my business not anyone else's. Especially not yours.

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Thanks to you Cat as you seen what I wrote for exactly as I had intended. I will say it again, I had good times while in ROME. I met some fantastic folks. And will keep many great memories, no matter what Mia says. I even have fond memories of him too. I dunno what is causing all this hate flung my way. But I don't think I deserved it, even a little bit. But oh well.

Say what you want, my posts dont have anything near what you are claiming.

Nothing but the facts.

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear

Mia you have done an excellent job of proving I've done nothing but be classy, even though you have been rude, and making case after case of just how blind and wrong you are on just about everything.

May I suggest you go back to your miserable little no job life. And knock off the idiocy your showing here. Time and time again you haven't done anything but make me look better, and yourself a fool.

Miyakoto - Heavens Tear

tbh... as part of Rome everyone did an awesome job though drama here and there kinda got the better of everyone finally.. dont have much to say... but Foxx... that title was a bit rude for everyone else in Rome. Not to mention you being a former member and leaving for a puny reason as to not getting what you want compared to a 180 other people is just quite sad imo ... it was nice while you were there but you really didnt have to put the entire guild down and make stories up about people in the guild.

Thanks to cheers from Enrage btw we'll do our job in Belial and rebuild rather than run away like certain people, thanks again

cheers to Aesthor from Miya too ^__^

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear

Ok I see Mia can't fight his own battles so now he called upon a 15 yr old to fight for him.

Miya hun, you don't know the whole story. So sorry but you really don't know whats going on, or what are the entire reasons of why I left. Why I left the guild is my business. The thread title Rome Burns was just a clever play on words, as most know the REAL Rome did Burn. It was not meant to be any slam, nor insult intended. The OP I wrote was nothing but nice. And had no slam in it what so ever. Since when is someone leaving a guild a crime?

I will not however put up with slams and attacks when I've not only done nothing wrong, but have tried over and over again to be respectful, until my last post. But by that time Mia deserved it, and will get much more, if he keeps it up.

If you folks really truly want the truth to come out, I'll spill the beans, right here right now. But I assure you it won't make the guild or anybody for that matter look good. Rome falling appart the day after I leave the guild, was my fault? I think not. Rome needing to restructure after I left, into a whole other guild, having anything to do with the drama of why I left. Is much more likely.

Miyakoto - Heavens Tear

for that matter... the number is 21. not 15.

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear

Rome needing to restructure after I left, into a whole other guild, having anything to do with the drama of why I left? Is much more likely. Rofo himself said he needed to weed out the trouble makers from the guild and rebuild. By that time I was already gone. So no way at all you can even pin it on me. You guys were oh so happy just a few days before I left, when I furnished the guild an hour before our TW with Ultra with Teamspeak, when nobody else would. You guys were gonna go into that TW using text channels, OMG. /epic fail!!!! But OMG I was such a trouble maker? If I was so disliked then how come ppl in the guild voted for me, to become executor? I never asked for it. But for some reason I was put on the ballot. How now can you say I was not liked and was trouble? Why just 24 hours before I left did about 7-8 ppl leave the guild? It had nothing to do with me. But it was partly the reason why I left.

My leaving was a direct result of Zoe in guild and her horrid fit she threw on guild chat about another member. Most everyone here on these forums know Zoe. I don't think I have to explain much more than merely mention her name.

Shall I go on?

Nomaad - Heavens Tear

This has really degenerated into a flame war...i sense a lock in the near future...

Miatemaro - Heavens Tear

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Ok I see Mia can't fight his own battles so now he called upon a 15 yr old to fight for him.

Miya hun, you don't know the whole story. So sorry but you really don't know whats going on, or what are the entire reasons of why I left. Why I left the guild is my business. The thread title Rome Burns was just a clever play on words, as most know the REAL Rome did Burn. It was not meant to be any slam, nor insult intended. The OP I wrote was nothing but nice. And had no slam in it what so ever. Since when is someone leaving a guild a crime?

I will not however put up with slams and attacks when I've not only done nothing wrong, but have tried over and over again to be respectful, until my last post. But by that time Mia deserved it, and will get much more, if he keeps it up.

If you folks really truly want the truth to come out, I'll spill the beans, right here right now. But I assure you it won't make the guild or anybody for that matter look good. Rome falling appart the day after I leave the guild, was my fault? I think not. Rome needing to restructure after I left, into a whole other guild, having anything to do with the drama of why I left. Is much more likely.

No I told them to check the idoicy that you posted. I need noone to fight my battles for me. You really need to get over yourself. I'll say it clearly for you so you dont get it wrong again.

You are not all that and definitely not a bag of chips more like the crumbs that are left over.

My last posts of YOUR QOUTES showed how little respect you are giving.

No you cant put up with the truth that is all thats plain and clear.

The restructuring was being planned before you left. It was felt you werent in the need to know about it. Noone ever said it was your fault. You werent that important to the faction for that to be the cause. Rofo already said earlier what happened and I even quoted it for you. Way to go at failure to read.


However please lets bring the mods in here and see who ends up getting what they deserve.

Go ahead reread my post before this one to see who was the one that is going overboard.

ScarletAngel - Heavens Tear

Ok guys we're all adults here so lets act like grown ups please. b:surrender

It's all water under the bridge, agree to disagree and move on and enjoy the game, after all thats what it's there for.