Experimental build.

coldshots
coldshots Posts: 16 Arc User
edited April 2009 in Venomancer
Feel free to make fun of me or offer suggestions as you like.

I have yet to see a thread on a pure build focused on the pet. This is my idea so far:
1) Get a Herc or Crystalinne Magmite as soon as my level is compatible.
(Since they are thebest tanks in the game from what i have read)

2) Put mainly all points into Magic and rest per weapon and magic based armour requires.
Reasoning: Your pet heals are affected by the amount of damage you do. So since adding points in Mag increases your damage, it would be logical to assume you would heal pet for more.

3) Now for the pet skills. I havent researched this enough as i would like and please correct me if i am wrong.

Skill 1: Increased defence. (Solid Shell)
Skill 2: Converts enemy into pet hp (Blood Imbibe)
Skill 3: Pet gets hit enemy takes damage (Reversal Shock)
Skill 4: (Possibly) Crustaceous
if not
Skill 4: Exorcism

Reasoing behind these:
1) Self explanatory
2) I will minimilize healing as much as possible and damage mobs as well since their hp is being coverted into hp for my pet.
3) The mob will take a portion of damage randomly with cap of 70% i believe. In turn the pet will take damage but will still do damage to mobs all the while keeping agression on mobs since they are being damaged.
4) Posible: Increase defence although duration is not very long, could be usefull in tight situations.
Exorcism would be a benefit giving an additional defence to magic attacks ontop of what the pet already has.

I'm hoping with this build to be able to solo bosses since i can stay out of their AOE range and still heal. Since my casting range increases as i lvl, and i will be able to heal massive amounts of hp to pet. With the help of a cleric or another veno to take over incase pet dies then farming of boses would be easy.

Please give me your thoughts and suggestions.
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  • XKIAx - Heavens Tear
    XKIAx - Heavens Tear Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Your skill nr 3 is extreamly rare and expensive.
    I have not yet checked this, but i dont think i have ever seen the skill "blood imbibe" in our version at the zoologist NPC. It might have another name though.

    Basically, its all good, but you'll be spending a lot of money on your pet, best is to go for a herc straight off when you have the money. A golem with those skills would probably be good, but i doubt he'll be able to solo TT squad mode like a herc can (if that is what you want to do).

    When you increase your magic, it increases your healing power... This is true. I have about 375 magic on my veno and i can heal 80% of my golem's HP in one cast (heal level 9)

    I dont know the exact names of the Herc skills, but for those that dont know, here they are:
    1. Stun skill (same as armored bear and shaudo cub)
    2. Increased mag defense.
    3. Increased phys defense.
    4. Damage reflect buff.

    Most people let the herc forget the stun skill (1 min cooldown sucks) and teach it either bash or flesh ream. Personally i like the idea of level 5 bash more than flesh ream.
  • coldshots
    coldshots Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I beleive blood imbibe is like another damage reversal but saps hp as well, so it does damage and heals pet. I couldbe wrong as i am taking the skill names from an old page.
  • Kamarile - Dreamweaver
    Kamarile - Dreamweaver Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    coldshots wrote: »
    I beleive blood imbibe is like another damage reversal but saps hp as well, so it does damage and heals pet. I couldbe wrong as i am taking the skill names from an old page.

    blood imbibe = bloodthirst
  • Sylvini - Heavens Tear
    Sylvini - Heavens Tear Posts: 259 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    This, umm, doesn't really seem to be experimental at all. You're basically a straight Arcane Build.

    The reason you don't see many build threads for the pets is because:
    1.) Pet build and Veno build are almost completely seperate. The only crossover is how much healing the pet needs.
    2.) Pets don't have that much variability in their builds. It's basically which pet you use (and there's pretty much one best for each purpose) and what 4 skills you teach it. There are a number of threads on what skills are best for certain pets/purposes.

    The only problems I see with your build are:
    1.) seems heavily reliant on very rare pet skill books, which can't simply be bought from an NPC
    2.) seems heavily reliant on pet skills being leveled, which is pricy. 200K to level each skill once, I think, which means about 800K to max one skill that the pet already has at lvl 1.

    Other than that, this is basically an Arcane Build.
  • coldshots
    coldshots Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I never saw it as being an Arcane build. Although now that you point it out i tend to agree with you.

    As for the rare pet books, i understand that they are rare and will be a pain in the **** to get them, as well cost alot of coin to upgrade those skills.

    My ultimate plan is to be able to farm pretty much every boss ingame solo. Which i know if impossible but with the help of a cleric and or another veno and some trial and error it may be possible.

    I do not know if anyone has tried this combination before. I would like to get a herc as a pet but i refuse on spendign any rl money on a free game. I`m hoping with the skills i can obtain through Mrs. Zoologist and dragon quests i may be able to match the herc with a Crystaline Magmite or come cose atleast.

    Since venos can make alot of money quickly, it will take a long time to test this theory out but i will give it the old college try.

    If you have any suggestions and hints about where to farm and such please let me know.

    My ingame name is Dark_Myst with Guradian faction. I am only level 10 atm since i restarted twice cause i screwed up my first two builds.
  • Daerys - Sanctuary
    Daerys - Sanctuary Posts: 1,022 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Your pet skills aren't the right name for this version fyi. Crustaceous is Tough, Blood Imbibe is probably Bloodthirst, Solid Shell is Strong, Reversal Shock is Reflect, and I'm not sure what Exorcism is.

    Herc comes with the best mix of tanking skills already, Strong, Protect (Mdef), and Reflect. Tough and Threaten are good to train a golem for until you get a Herc.

    Bloodthirst is an attack that deals damage equal to 25% of pets missing HP and heals the same amount, so it's not really all that great for keeping pet healed. Devour may also be the skill you are thinking of, but it may not work on mobs since they don't have mana bars.

    Your thinking is good, but I think you may be thinking a bit too much. Get a Herc and your tanking issues are solved.
  • Literature - Harshlands
    Literature - Harshlands Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    coldshots wrote: »
    As for the rare pet books, i understand that they are rare and will be a pain in the **** to get them, as well cost alot of coin to upgrade those skills.

    My ultimate plan is to be able to farm pretty much every boss ingame solo. Which i know if impossible but with the help of a cleric and or another veno and some trial and error it may be possible.

    I do not know if anyone has tried this combination before. I would like to get a herc as a pet but i refuse on spendign any rl money on a free game. I`m hoping with the skills i can obtain through Mrs. Zoologist and dragon quests i may be able to match the herc with a Crystaline Magmite or come cose atleast.

    lol @ experimental build. You just described every arcane veno with a herc...including me. =D

    I have ALL points in mag and str for items...everything else is base cept for the stuff on gears. My herc has all those skills except the HP convert one.

    Good luck though...you will end up spending close to a herc if you buy all those scrolls. LOL
  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    coldshots wrote: »
    My ultimate plan is to be able to farm pretty much every boss ingame solo.

    I can solo almost every boss that are at my level (and a few above) without those fancy costly skills. One Hercule with it's starting skill (minus pounce) is enough to do the job.

    And some boss you'll likely never be able to solo because of their debuff/curses : Krimson and Cennequus for exemple.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh
  • coldshots
    coldshots Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    The great thing like you said. I will be spending close to enough to buy a herc, but atleast i wont be wasting my RL hard earned money on the game.

    I have better things to spend money on liek Beer, and camping. So i appreciate the help. Now i know i will have a character comparable to a herc without spending money just time having fun.
  • Literature - Harshlands
    Literature - Harshlands Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    coldshots wrote: »
    The great thing like you said. I will be spending close to enough to buy a herc, but atleast i wont be wasting my RL hard earned money on the game.

    I have better things to spend money on liek Beer, and camping. So i appreciate the help. Now i know i will have a character comparable to a herc without spending money just time having fun.

    If you do level up and manage to save up 13-15m to get those skills on a golem...it wouldn't be worth it. You might as well go all the way to 20m or put some real money to it to get the herc. Theres a thread here about what ur tryin to do. ;o

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=240951

    Gl tho...I hope you have the nerve to even grind 15m. Not many people do. Lol
  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    coldshots wrote: »
    The great thing like you said. I will be spending close to enough to buy a herc, but atleast i wont be wasting my RL hard earned money on the game.

    I have a Hercule and a Phoenix, and I spent not one cent of real money on them b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh
  • Obsessed - Heavens Tear
    Obsessed - Heavens Tear Posts: 670 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    coldshots wrote: »
    The great thing like you said. I will be spending close to enough to buy a herc, but atleast i wont be wasting my RL hard earned money on the game.

    I have better things to spend money on liek Beer, and camping. So i appreciate the help. Now i know i will have a character comparable to a herc without spending money just time having fun.
    You can get a herc with In-game coin you know.

    Didnt sped any Real-life money to get my Herc and phoenix (took me 37million COINS to get them both, what's that 18.5m each)

    Just buy a herc with Coins, cost the same as all the skills you're trying to get AND be better then the magmite(*cough* magimites HP is oodles lower then herc*cough*)
  • Daerys - Sanctuary
    Daerys - Sanctuary Posts: 1,022 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    coldshots wrote: »
    The great thing like you said. I will be spending close to enough to buy a herc, but atleast i wont be wasting my RL hard earned money on the game.

    I have better things to spend money on liek Beer, and camping. So i appreciate the help. Now i know i will have a character comparable to a herc without spending money just time having fun.


    The golem will never be comparable to a herc. The HP difference alone is well worth the cost, and over a long fight the Herc will deal better damage due to it's faster attack speed and higher accuracy. You also don't need to spend a single penny of RL money to get one, I didn't. Cost me roughly 18 mil, all earned from TT mats and merchanting, and some grinding of course.