Veno vs Bm in pk.

ggrove

If a level 60 veno vs's level 60 bm in pk who would win?
And how about an archer and veno, both 60 in pk
Also a barb and a veno in pk at 60? Who would win?

Saitada - Sanctuary

ggrove wrote: »

If a level 60 veno vs's level 60 bm in pk who would win?
And how about an archer and veno, both 60 in pk
Also a barb and a veno in pk at 60? Who would win?

Depends on who got the jump on the other. Head to head both knowing the other was coming, it would then depend on what the Veno's pet is, if the BM got his stuns off first or not, and the skill between both players. Assuming equally skilled players (i.e. they both know their characters well, and how to use their strengths etc) I'd say at that point it would depend on the Veno's pet. If her pet has Flesh Ream then unless the BM can counter that with pots/powders the Veno will likely win unless the BM stuns both her and the pet.

~S

jemima

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Depends on who got the jump on the other. Head to head both knowing the other was coming, it would then depend on what the Veno's pet is, if the BM got his stuns off first or not, and the skill between both players. Assuming equally skilled players (i.e. they both know their characters well, and how to use their strengths etc) I'd say at that point it would depend on the Veno's pet. If her pet has Flesh Ream then unless the BM can counter that with pots/powders the Veno will likely win unless the BM stuns both her and the pet.

~S

Do they start off with chi?
If so, bramble hood makes bm's cry.

Devarsi - Sanctuary

not a smart BM... all the BM has to do is stun and sit there until bramble hood wears off.. then the veno dies really quick

Maiya - Lost City

Well, reflect doesn't do anything in PvP (outside of duels). So the BM would mainly have to worry about the damage reduction (75%). If the Veno is a robe user, the Veno will still suffer quite a bit.

Devarsi - Sanctuary

really? o.O i thought reflect still worked in pvp

Daerys - Sanctuary

Devarsi - Sanctuary wrote: »

really? o.O i thought reflect still worked in pvp

Recently nerfed. No reflect except in duels. DR still applies though.

Sylvini - Heavens Tear

The BM's stuns would wreak havok on an arcane Veno... unless the Veno knows how to kite and evade effectively, in which case Veno wins... unless the BM knows how to counter that effectively, in which case... Basically, there are way too many variables, the biggest of which is the skill of each player.

Oh, and let's not even get into different builds. Is the BM fist or hammer or sword or pike? Is the Veno arcane, light, or heavy armor? Is the Veno fox-form? How are stats distributed, how were skillpoints spent, etc. One of the things I like about PW is that there is no 'best' class. A skillful Wiz (generally thought of as the gimpest class) who knows what he's doing can beat out any other class in PvP. An idiot archer (generally thought of as the best PKing class) can get wiped by anyone else. Each class has streangths that can overcome other class's weaknesses, and weaknesses that have to be guarded, it all comes down to how you play it.

Devarsi - Sanctuary

BM cloud sprint + stun > veno kiting

heavy armor fox form veno vs BM would be fun to watch though

Onxy - Harshlands

With or without charms on? I'm sorry to say this because most if not all of you accept it, however from the point of view of someone who has played other mmos some on a highly competitive level I find from my experience thus far that charms are one heck of a "care bear" item.

Loltank - Harshlands

If the Veno has a Phoenix and a Charm she could take on an army of blademasters. If not, I'd give the edge to the BM for stun lock. I've never really had much of a problem with venos except heavy foxes and Phoenix users, and only one of those can kill me.

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary

trying to predict such variables in metagame are far too hard to produce actual results.

1. depends on players pvp experience
2. gear
3. veno selection of pet
4. if they both start with chi or not
among many other factors.

Just think of it this way, youll have your strengths and weaknesses against classes, find your middle ground and youll kick **** in PVP.

Example- Ayano-chan on sanc on the PVP records, level 8x wizard who kills egotistical demon/sage TT90 geared barbs/BM like a shooting fish in a barrel. It just takes practice :P

EDIT: a phoenix doesnt m ake a veno a god. A bm is fast enough to outrun the chicken and kille the veno in 1-2 hits with proper moves :P (provide its not a 'tarded heavy, or LA build)

Saitada - Sanctuary

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

trying to predict such variables in metagame are far too hard to produce actual results.

1. depends on players pvp experience
2. gear
3. veno selection of pet
4. if they both start with chi or not
among many other factors.

Just think of it this way, youll have your strengths and weaknesses against classes, find your middle ground and youll kick **** in PVP.

Example- Ayano-chan on sanc on the PVP records, level 8x wizard who kills egotistical demon/sage TT90 geared barbs/BM like a shooting fish in a barrel. It just takes practice :P

EDIT: a phoenix doesnt m ake a veno a god. A bm is fast enough to outrun the chicken and kille the veno in 1-2 hits with proper moves :P (provide its not a 'tarded heavy, or LA build)

Yup, that is why I said it comes down to the Veno's pet, and the skills between the two players. If they are both equally skilled at their class and PvP, then it's more a matter of luck i.e. who gets the first strike or stun off against the other. LA/HA builds are a nasty surprise when a BM is expecting a robe build and find out your not. in a cpl fights with a higher level BM, I won one and lost one. It all boiled down to luck and skill and my pets flesh ream. The one I lost, I only lost by a tick of flesh ream. had it ticked one more time, I might very well have won (and yes, I believe flesh ream needs to be fixed, and badly. it is wayyy **** up things in TW/PvP).

~S