Barb Vs Archer

Rangedsddddd - Heavens Tear
Rangedsddddd - Heavens Tear Posts: 2 Arc User
edited March 2009 in General Discussion
who would win in duel, a lvl 100 barberian or a lvl 100 archer?
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  • Pandaberr - Lost City
    Pandaberr - Lost City Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I think the archer would honestly. But I can't say that for a fact, since I'm not that level. Nice stun, high crit rate, high accuracy/evasion, choice between physical and magical attacks(obviously wants to use magic since its a barb) and massive damage output. Yes the barb does have high HP but his HP won't matter if he can't hit the archer.

    I guess it really depends on who gets the stun first, but I think the archer has a better chance to get it before the barb. Also depends on the skill of the player. If both players are equally skilled it might be a long fight...If the archer gets the jump on the barb though, its game over. Skilled barb or not.
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  • XKIAx - Heavens Tear
    XKIAx - Heavens Tear Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    It depends on equipment/skill levels/player skills/etc.
    But i think the archer would win, though a sage barb would give him a hard time i think.
  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Archers are Over Powered QQ nerf them!!!!

    Lets see how the archers like that. b:laugh

    ~S
  • Pandaberr - Lost City
    Pandaberr - Lost City Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Jeez I just pwnt my own class. @Saitada, your trying to incite something that you know will just end up in the classic Veno's are OP, QQ, nerf them. Funny b:laugh
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Pandaberr - Lost City wrote: »
    Jeez I just pwnt my own class. @Saitada, your trying to incite something that you know will just end up in the classic Veno's are OP, QQ, nerf them. Funny b:laugh

    Naw just pointing out that each class can be considered OP by different classes. Veno's are good, have some nice skills, but unless HA build (or decently sharded and equipped LA build, have **** for phys def and hp) Mages need a serious boost, Archers scare me. Knockback. Stuns. *shivers*. Barbs worry the hell outta me but are sweet to have on your side, and you damned Blade Masters with your stuns... Unless your on my side.. I hate you! LOL. Clerics now.... Clerics scare me as well. But for different reasons. I don't attack Clerics.

    Why?

    **** a cleric off, and when you have forgotten about it, and your needing a heal they remember you.... and don't. b:laugh

    I never kill clerics. Clerics are my friends. I go out of my way to help clerics.

    ~S
  • Pandaberr - Lost City
    Pandaberr - Lost City Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I try to be generally friendly towards everyone. I love clerics, they buff me out of nowhere and then fly away before I can even say thank you. Archers are freakin' sneaky. I've seen too many sneak up and one shot someone and disappear. I want to roll an archer just so I can pretend to be a ninja b:pleased
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Pandaberr - Lost City wrote: »
    I try to be generally friendly towards everyone. I love clerics, they buff me out of nowhere and then fly away before I can even say thank you. Archers are freakin' sneaky. I've seen too many sneak up and one shot someone and disappear. I want to roll an archer just so I can pretend to be a ninja b:pleased
    That is why Archers scare me.

    Clerics are cool that way. And is another reason why I won't attack them (unless they shoot first, which usually means I die lol).

    I'm generally pretty helpful as well. lol, even with people that have pissed me off and that I dislike with a passion, I'll help them. Usually helping people is mutually beneficial. So I might hate someones guts, but I'll help them for the XP, etc I'll get from helping them.

    Weird I know.

    ~S
  • Pandaberr - Lost City
    Pandaberr - Lost City Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I have to say I haven't seen an Archer one shot a barb though. They'll have to work for that kill. Ulterior motives for the win. I attacked a cleric once without being attacked first, and it was only because he was working my faction mate. He tried to turn on me, but I ate his face because I stunned him :) I have yet to run into an attack cleric yet. When I do, I'm going to run.
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  • Hasukurobi - Heavens Tear
    Hasukurobi - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    From what I have seen I would put my money squarely on the Archer. Barb has no good way to close that gap in time if we are assuming equalivilant equip and such. With that in mind, yes Archers are NASTY in PvP and Barbs are not particularly well set up to handle them. However, this game is hard to impossible to PvP your way through (aka never fighting the monsters...uh...yeah anyway) and in PvE the Archers have some notable issues to contend with many of which the Barbs do not notice. So if the question is ultimately "Are they op and so should be nerfed" I think no. Everyone has their ups and downs and the likelyhood of finding these mythical = lvl 100 characters to begin with who do not get friends involved is really slim and hardly worth worrying about.
  • Pandaberr - Lost City
    Pandaberr - Lost City Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I'm so sad someone hasn't said barb yet. At lvl 100 they probably have their stun skill maxed, as well as another skill that is ranged and can freeze for 8 seconds, I'd say thats ample time to close the gap and start eating them.
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Pandaberr - Lost City wrote: »
    I'm so sad someone hasn't said barb yet. At lvl 100 they probably have their stun skill maxed, as well as another skill that is ranged and can freeze for 8 seconds, I'd say thats ample time to close the gap and start eating them.
    Stuns only work if they are in range in the first place though. If they are that close.. yer in trouble lol.

    ~S
  • Pandaberr - Lost City
    Pandaberr - Lost City Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    A barb at that level should have enough HP to take a few hits from the archer, and Ancestral Rage has a range of 18 meters.
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Pandaberr - Lost City wrote: »
    A barb at that level should have enough HP to take a few hits from the archer, and Ancestral Rage has a range of 18 meters.
    I was just going to say, remember Archers have knockback but if memory serves, it doesn't work in PvP so nm lol.

    ~S
  • Pandaberr - Lost City
    Pandaberr - Lost City Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I don't think it does, Barbs have Slam that does knockback, but that wouldn't make sense to knockback an opponent you want to get up close and personal and friendly with b:chuckle
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  • garlix
    garlix Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Barbs have big chances to kill archers I(barb)won in a duel against an arcehr 10 lvls higher than me.
  • Pandaberr - Lost City
    Pandaberr - Lost City Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Your level and his level? What did you do to kill him? Did you take a look at his gear? What was it like compared to yours, superior or inferior? More details please b:thanks
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  • Kamikiri - Lost City
    Kamikiri - Lost City Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Rangedsddddd - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    who would win in duel, a lvl 100 barberian or a lvl 100 archer?

    Depends on whos the better player,
    fyi barbs can make up for poor accuracy with Misty Forest rings, lvl.10 Blood Bath (300% accuracy for demon barbs)

    Barbs also have Invoke the spirit, which will make all of the archers hits worthless. (20 seconds)

    Archers got that wings of protection thing, reduce damage or whatever.

    Barbs got a Stun if maxed has 50%(60% chance if demon I belive)
    Sage gots a never miss Beastial Onslaught, lowers the opponents evasion for a bit too.

    All is said, depends on who plays there class better.
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  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Kamikiri - Lost City wrote: »
    Barbs got a Stun if maxed has 50%(60% chance if demon I belive)
    Sage gots a never miss Beastial Onslaught, lowers the opponents evasion for a bit too.

    Just to add, beastial onslaught is a ranged attack. 12m range with nasty damage is pretty cool. Also as a sage it never misses and will severely reduce the archers evasion.
    Kamikiri - Lost City wrote: »
    All is said, depends on who plays there class better.

    Exactly. There are only opportunities. No guarantees. b:laugh
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  • TiVan - Heavens Tear
    TiVan - Heavens Tear Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    the barb is bound to have an unbelievable hp O_O

    it would be a long fight just for that......
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  • Onxy - Harshlands
    Onxy - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    @Saitada:

    Get over it. Elements of your class are OP. Some people really have a hard time admitting the truth. The point is that the developers have done nothing to change that so you have nothing to worry about. The Genies should hopefully help with the bleed issue and we all get on with playing the game but your constant need to defend an indefensible fact is just as repetitive as the "venos are OP" threads. Just like this post!
  • Cbastor - Lost City
    Cbastor - Lost City Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    in a duel the archer. in pvp it will depend.first of all archer usually cant kill wb cuz of thier hp.it depends on the gear too
  • Fallenangelx - Heavens Tear
    Fallenangelx - Heavens Tear Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    i generally try to avoid barbs and bms...even if u get first hit, they have too much hp for you to kill alone. one hit doesn't even tick their charm, after 2 hits then it ticks and well, if your're alone as an archer, their charm usually ticks in before you can kill them. bms are horrid, they run so fast towards you and stun. all i can do is run away, lol. but if you have 2 archers...thats a different story b:laugh

    its alot easier to 1 shot the arcane classes, but if they wear light armor, might need to stun then shoot them.
  • garlix
    garlix Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Pandaberr - Lost City wrote: »
    Your level and his level? What did you do to kill him? Did you take a look at his gear? What was it like compared to yours, superior or inferior? More details please b:thanks

    I am a lvl65 and he is lvl 70+.He had 70+ gear like legings wristgurads plate and these things.I just used stunt,advanced spark eruption and the range one it is very good it decreses evasion.
  • Coraline - Lost City
    Coraline - Lost City Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    1v1 I think the archer would win. Lots of kiting and stun involved but yeah, archer would win. Only way I could see the barb winning is if they had a bm friend to stunlock the archer..-_- which normally happens...but yeah..Kiting around till the archers stuns could work then metal nuking them yeah..it could work..might take a while though.
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Onxy - Harshlands wrote: »
    @Saitada:

    Get over it. Elements of your class are OP. Some people really have a hard time admitting the truth. The point is that the developers have done nothing to change that so you have nothing to worry about. The Genies should hopefully help with the bleed issue and we all get on with playing the game but your constant need to defend an indefensible fact is just as repetitive as the "venos are OP" threads. Just like this post!
    I defend an indefensible fact? ORLY? whats that? That the class is not Over Powered, that one skill sux **** and needs fixing? That we have pets that are strong because we were willing to pay the cash to get them and they damn well better be strong for that price?

    Or maybe it's the fact that I shoot down 90% of the garbage posted by non Veno's that don't know wtf they are talking about with cold hard facts?

    I will defend my class against BS when I read it. I agree the skill Flesh Ream needs fixing, and the devs should have done that ages ago. But reality check here. Veno's are a class designed to solo. Most of the whines are about Veno's doing exactly what they are designed to do, or are whines about a bugged skill when coupled with a legendary pet.

    Nuff said.

    ~S
  • Criticalhitz - Heavens Tear
    Criticalhitz - Heavens Tear Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Duel? Archer.

    PvP? Can go both ways.

    Why? Pure dex archer, critical hit % at that level, Evasion at that level, Deppends what demon skills you've gotten/sage w.e you wanna turn, your gear and timing.

    Barbs, Hp,Charm, build to I guess and gear ect..

    Archer would just have to time sparks/lightning skills properly and kite proper,winged shell proper and either kill the barbs charm or crit over 15k++..Dont be surprised if the barb does get crit for over 10k from a lvl 100 pure dex archer.

    On the other hand dont be surprised if the barb wins.. fight can go either way but I'd prob put my money on the archer.
    Making new char..Which one? I have a BM..but I want more damage and stuff to do..

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  • Mosa - Harshlands
    Mosa - Harshlands Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I say it will be a draw both of them will be hacking and trying to kill each other for 30 minutes then they get tired and reliaze that they both wasted 8$ in that fight and its not worth continuing cept for that time where I really watched a barb vs barb where they waited for somones charm to run out...

    and both of them got new ones up b:surrender

    everybody was watching.....then everybody left......they everybody cameback.......and they were still at it.When they came back though ppl treated them as part of the surroundings like a wall or something nothing special I really had a good laugh that day..
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Pandaberr - Lost City wrote: »
    I don't think it does, Barbs have Slam that does knockback, but that wouldn't make sense to knockback an opponent you want to get up close and personal and friendly with b:chuckle

    I thought player characters were immune to knock back?
  • Pandaberr - Lost City
    Pandaberr - Lost City Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I thought player characters were immune to knock back?

    They are.


    @Saitada and Onyx, lets try to keep this off veno's and on a duel about barbs and archers please.
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  • Criticalhitz - Heavens Tear
    Criticalhitz - Heavens Tear Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    @Mosa - Barb vs Barb can be a good fight, I've watched Barb vs Barb and it comes close soemtimes lol. But this is ARCHER vs BARB, So a lvl 100 Archer vs lvl 100 Barb..
    Making new char..Which one? I have a BM..but I want more damage and stuff to do..

    Experienced players contact with the cons n pros of there class and where to put points n what skills to up ASAP thanks..

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