Heavens Tears TW Predictions 3/20-3/22

Criticalhitz - Heavens Tear

Nice post KymKat, I dont hate on any guild I just share my opinions.

Cat - Heavens Tear

Kingpiccolo - Heavens Tear wrote: »

But Hisui has already illustrated to me that Enrage has no real agenda, and arguing to someone without a solid stance is like trying to hold onto a block of flowing water.

Just because you dont think we have an agenda doesnt mean we dont have a solid stance. We have a VERY solid stance and thats to have fun and take as the game it is. We all just want fun energtic TWs.

Once again we arent trying to be something we arent and come up with all these excuses for what we do. We are a guild that LISTENS to each other, has a good leader who LISTENs to us and our opinions and we do what we find fun. THAT is our agenda.

We arent sheep that follow someone blindly. We make our own choices and decisions. We include our guild in everything, and for the common purpose of having fun and enjoying the game.

Someone in the guild even said once, what if we owned as much land as radiance and someone said we would probably disband and start another new guild just to keep TW action happening. And you know out of ALL the guilds on the map and in the game I honestly think thats what we would do. I know I would be all for it.

Kingpiccolo - Heavens Tear

Sorry to break it to you but "have fun and tak as the game it is" is hardly a solid stance or agenda. What you've said differs from what Hisui has said thus reinforcing what I've said.

If you guys really wanted an energetic TW then what in the 9 **** made you guys attack Triad who have 2 players on the top 50 over Radiance who have 2 less top 50 players than you? It would have been a much more even match.

Lordanubis - Heavens Tear

i cant reply
/ban

Torm - Heavens Tear

Kingpiccolo - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If you guys really wanted an energetic TW then what in the 9 **** made you guys attack Triad who have 2 players on the top 50 over Radiance who have 2 less top 50 players than you? It would have been a much more even match.

ROFL are you serious? yes we have 2 more players in the top 50 soo? Rad the still " offical " strongest guild in the server attacked Legion. How many people they have in the top 50 KP? Dont worry I counted them for you 3. Yes 3 so again you can say what you want about Enrage and our 4 week old guild not attacking one of the largest strongest, and oldest guilds on the server. But dont sweat it too much we will attack when ready, and i seriously doubt you will be happy when it does.

Lordanubis - Heavens Tear

this blows =( i havea good response but couldnt post it =(

Lordanubis - Heavens Tear

Nekhebet - Heavens Tear wrote: »

b:laugh Radiance is where it is cause alot of members and ex-members lost hours and hours to grind lvl and fight TW'S....it's cause of people like Torm(who actualy had tactics for a TW) and Rua ( the one that was actualy recruting people for Radiance and that was trying to enforce rules in the guild)cause of members working good togehter. b:bye

so are you stipulating that only torm had tactics in radiance when it came to TW? no disrespect, but i think there was a thread where ppl put in suggestions about tactics and torms ideas were one of em. also rua (b:kiss) did her job as an officer tremendously but does not mean ONLY she was the work horse, mainly because she had her duty as an officer to do it. someone else is doing her previous undertaking right now and it is how it should be.

i still remember torm posting a thread regarding organizational hierarchy in the military, and this was true in rad but it didnt cover Coup d etat. i think this is what happened to rad but the stability was reestablished and order was back.

yes nek u are correct when u say that members working together make the organization great, and this is the core of the guild. even after ex members left, this core was still left in radiance and this is what we do until today. we level,grind and loose our time to help the guild grow.

lastly, i know that you feel/think that june isnt a leader or THE leader but please stop talking in behalf of the current radiance members on why we stay and will stay. the reason why we stayed is a reason for each member and generalizing it into 2-4 points is unjustified. until such time that "Radiance Leader" does not float on june's head, she IS THE leader of radiance.

Defected - Heavens Tear

I'm sure that Radiance decides who they attack the same way Enrage does...

By asking its members who they want to attack...where everyone's opinion is acknowledged. You can't be mad at Rad if most of its members voted for Legion like most of ours voted for Triad. We already fought Evolution. It was meh. We wanted to see if Triad was stronger. Meh.

We'll see what happens this week.

Fallenangelx - Heavens Tear

Torm - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Ok I just cant stand it anymore I have to respond to this one. First off Rad changing its policy yeah right, more like Junes excuse for not attacking changed. As for Enrage attacking Radiance, rofl, the guild has only been around for 4 weeks and people are crying the we didnt attack Radiance. Wow, oh you can bet there will be a Radiance v Enrage fight soon enough maybe next week maybe months from now tbh I dont even think Enrage knows. But to KP i really hate to see you defending Radiance with so much passion, I mean i'm glad your loyal and all, errr wait didnt you leave with all of us when June went against the guilds vote and attacked a crumbled RoC land for like the 4th time in a row? And then went running back when your friends decided to stay? I mean i dont blame you a game is all about the frineds in it but to sit here and defend Junes mishaps when you were one of the people who left the guild because of them is hilarious. And please dont try to front about it but the friends you went back to Rad to be with and many others in Rad would have left long ago if it wasnt for the money they get each week. That is one of the main reasons your are the ONLY one on here defending them.

b:chuckle Torm, don't forget about our karoake nights! that is good enough reason to stay. b:surrender

Inna - Heavens Tear

Nekhebet - Heavens Tear wrote: »

b:laugh Radiance is where it is cause alot of members and ex-members lost hours and hours to grind lvl and fight TW'S....it's cause of people like Torm(who actualy had tactics for a TW) and Rua ( the one that was actualy recruting people for Radiance and that was trying to enforce rules in the guild)cause of members working good togehter. See all you say shows u are in Radiance but know nothing about how the guild works. June is leader of Radiance but what is a General without a good army?...what june did can be done by any person that has alot of free time......when it came to TW she did the same any other member did...that is fight to win.So pls stop the "praise".....june is a leader....not THE leader.



b:bye

Don't get me wrong, I didn't say it was only the leader's efforts that made Rad the way it was today. You are right, a general is no general without it's army. The same can be said vice versa. But people don't criticize "the army". They automatically shoot at the leader. All I'm saying is its an effort from both sides.

And history has shown that anyone can be a leader, but only a select few are successful leaders.

Nekhebet - Heavens Tear

Lordanubis - Heavens Tear wrote: »

so are you stipulating that only torm had tactics in radiance when it came to TW? no disrespect, but i think there was a thread where ppl put in suggestions about tactics and torms ideas were one of em. also rua (b:kiss) did her job as an officer tremendously but does not mean ONLY she was the work horse, mainly because she had her duty as an officer to do it. someone else is doing her previous undertaking right now and it is how it should be.

i still remember torm posting a thread regarding organizational hierarchy in the military, and this was true in rad but it didnt cover Coup d etat. i think this is what happened to rad but the stability was reestablished and order was back.

yes nek u are correct when u say that members working together make the organization great, and this is the core of the guild. even after ex members left, this core was still left in radiance and this is what we do until today. we level,grind and loose our time to help the guild grow.

lastly, i know that you feel/think that june isnt a leader or THE leader but please stop talking in behalf of the current radiance members on why we stay and will stay. the reason why we stayed is a reason for each member and generalizing it into 2-4 points is unjustified. until such time that "Radiance Leader" does not float on june's head, she IS THE leader of radiance.

first all so we understand eachother i gave an example why is radiance where it is..i can give alot of names that helped not only rua or torm...second i never said june is not a leader...i said she is not THE LEADER(like she is not the best leader ultimate one..etc..at least that is what i think)...about people staying in radiance again we gave some examples.....i could write an entire story about this subject but i think until now i was fair...i only posted things i was sure they are 100% true....there are alot of other things some of us know or suspect but cause we are not sure they are true we don't post them...cause eaven if some don't like me or others that left we(at least me)like the truth and like to have an opinion...some times i will be right some wrong..so never take personal what i say..it's just a simple opinion..not ment to create drama.

again srry for my english bye bye and have funb:bye

Cat - Heavens Tear

Kingpiccolo - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Sorry to break it to you but "have fun and tak as the game it is" is hardly a solid stance or agenda. What you've said differs from what Hisui has said thus reinforcing what I've said.

If you guys really wanted an energetic TW then what in the 9 **** made you guys attack Triad who have 2 players on the top 50 over Radiance who have 2 less top 50 players than you? It would have been a much more even match.

Hisui has made like 2? whole posts on the subject. In those in which he said what I said was correct. He cant be saying what I said is correct if hes saying something different. You probably just dont get how he said it. Im pretty he meant we dont have an agenda's like most guilds, or like Radiance. What?! you not read and understand a post.. not you.. that never happens with you.....

And yes have fun and treating it like a game is a stance and agenda. Sorry if you cant play a game and treat it as a game.

I already explained why we attacked Triads, I see you are still failing to read and comprehend even my posts.

And once again Im sure your leader knows where we are and how to bid on our land.

MentalEdge - Heavens Tear

Kingpiccolo - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Sorry to break it to you but "have fun and tak as the game it is" is hardly a solid stance or agenda. What you've said differs from what Hisui has said thus reinforcing what I've said.

If you guys really wanted an energetic TW then what in the 9 **** made you guys attack Triad who have 2 players on the top 50 over Radiance who have 2 less top 50 players than you? It would have been a much more even match.

Personally and not for the rest of enrage,i dislike the fact they're mostly made up of veno+phoenix and dislike the fact they are your official ally and are grabbing all those lands.

I don't care neither for any posts that say its a good strategy to have **** loads of nixes or be allied to the largest faction on server,i dislike it.

Kingpiccolo - Heavens Tear

Torm - Heavens Tear wrote: »

ROFL are you serious? yes we have 2 more players in the top 50 soo? Rad the still " offical " strongest guild in the server attacked Legion. How many people they have in the top 50 KP? Dont worry I counted them for you 3. Yes 3 so again you can say what you want about Enrage and our 4 week old guild not attacking one of the largest strongest, and oldest guilds on the server. But dont sweat it too much we will attack when ready, and i seriously doubt you will be happy when it does.

Yep, very serious. Legion launched the first strike, Radiance just hit back. As I recall there was a lot of whining about how Radiance has all the high levels, now that you guys have a equal share of it why not make use of it? Enrage is made of RoC and Radiance, two of the oldest and most powerful guilds ever on this server, so that argument doesn't really stand, it's a new guild made of veterans.

I'd be very happy when you guys attack, and the sooner the better.

Fina - Heavens Tear

Kingpiccolo - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Also Elysium didn't attack Rad, but Kenji and Wargasm were becoming increasingly hostile.

Yup, what a shame.

Cat - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Elysium never attacked Rad either. Elysium was quite happy moving south and were taking lands from ViTaLiZe? or w.e that guild was called, there was also some other medium guild down there we fault against.

I was in Elysium and Rad never attacked it until Wargasm screwed up and pissed half of the guild off so we all left and mainly joined Evo, or RoC.

Then RoC attacked what was left of Elysium and then Rad came in to scoop up the free easy land like normal.

Yea, sounds about right.
And it was ViTaLiTy.
Rad and Elysium were on pretty good terms as far I as remember and often partnered up for all sorts of training and TT/HH-ing.

And even during the 2 or so weeks that I had first joined Radiance, June stood up for me against that [insert expletive here] KittyKat. Even after leaving Radiance with several other members to form our own guild, June was never hostile towards me about it. She was always friendly. Most of the people in Rad were friendly to me even after I left and we often FB'ed together.

I remember the days where a lot of guilds would say "Our goal isn't to control the entire map; we are comfortable sharing with a lot of other guilds!" b:laugh

Kingpiccolo - Heavens Tear

Cat - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Hisui has made like 2? whole posts on the subject. In those in which he said what I said was correct. He cant be saying what I said is correct if hes saying something different. You probably just dont get how he said it. Im pretty he meant we dont have an agenda's like most guilds, or like Radiance. What?! you not read and understand a post.. not you.. that never happens with you.....

And yes have fun and treating it like a game is a stance and agenda. Sorry if you cant play a game and treat it as a game.

I already explained why we attacked Triads, I see you are still failing to read and comprehend even my posts.

And once again Im sure your leader knows where we are and how to bid on our land.

So 2 posts makes it insignificant, you're not the only one who matters you know? Snap out of it and quit pretending you are right on everything. I play the game like the game it is so you have nothing to be sorry for, quit making wild assumptions about me when you have nothing to back it up. I HAVE read your explaination about why you attacked Triad and it's very poor, in fact if you actually managed to read the bit you quoted you'll see why I think it was a poor excuse.

Well here's some quotes for you incase you.

Hisui wrote:

Likewise, Enrage won't attack Rad because we don't have a 100% win assurance.

Cat wrote:

Why we wont attack without 100% win certainty? Who said we dont?

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Cat wrote:

We ALL thought that Triads would be a better challange than what they were.

Cat wrote:

My definition of a real TW, is where both sides are relatively equal in strength at the time of the TW and both sides are there participating equally.

KingPiccolo wrote:

If you guys really wanted an energetic TW then what in the 9 **** made you guys attack Triad who have 2 players on the top 50 over Radiance who have 2 less top 50 players than you? It would have been a much more even match.

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Hisui wrote:

Cat just proved our guild really has no official agenda.

Cat wrote:

Just because you dont think we have an agenda doesnt mean we dont have a solid stance. We have a VERY solid stance and thats to have fun and take as the game it is.

An agenda is a plan for things to be done. "Having fun" is a broad blanket statement, not an actual target or goal, what is done to have fun is the actual agenda.

Oh and before you criticise my reading, go work on your own speaking, half the stuff you say makes little sense because of your own writing, not my reading.

One last thing, I don't see Enrage attacking Radiance so quit acting tough and mighty.

Hisui - Heavens Tear

I dont know why my posts are being used. Im not gonna scroll up and read what happened but.

1) I thought Enrage will not touch Rad unless we're more prepared

2) Cat thinks Enrage should attack Rad asap.

3) Neither Cat or I will know what really will happen.

get it now?

Cat - Heavens Tear

If you cant understand my writing thats your problem not mine. And as you so nicely put it

"So 2 posts makes it insignificant, you're not the only one who matters you know?"

Well the same thing can be said on the other side, Why dont you snap out of it. Your just like me too a big fat nobody and your not right all the time either, so quit acting like your all the man.

Just as my posts dont matter then you cant claim that Hisui's do either. Hes only one other person in the guild as well. It doesnt make his posts anymore right than mine. Only that you want them to be so you can try to use them to back up your silly statements.

Your triad quotes make no sense. We thought Triads would be a better challange than what they are. Thus providing a more equal TW. And as I happily admitted we were wrong, they proved to be pretty damn weak. Aint noone in Enrage trying to say that was a fair or equal TW, We tested them because thats what the guild voted to do, we found out they are weak hopefully this week we go after bigger fish.

However as much as I want it, its a guild decision. Something you cant seem to wrap your head around. Maybe you guys are just to use to charity making the calls or something to understand a guild voting for what they want.

Any member of Enrage you want to ask can tell you my posts on our forums and who I want us to go after.. I dont make it any secret. But I lay out my case each week for my guild and then respect their decision on who they want to go after.

Just because YOU dont THINK its an agenda doesnt mean it isnt one. Sorry if you cant play a game and treat it as a game, and just have fun. My new agenda is just to irritate you every chance I get because its funny as hell. Hows thats for an agenda? lol

Oh and since you just love double standards, I dont see Radiance attacking Enrage so quit acting tough and mighty.

Krasava - Heavens Tear

Torm - Heavens Tear wrote: »

..But to KP i really hate to see you defending Radiance with so much passion, I mean i'm glad your loyal and all, errr wait didnt you leave with all of us when June went against the guilds vote and attacked a crumbled RoC land for like the 4th time in a row? And then went running back when your friends decided to stay? … And please dont try to front about it but the friends you went back to Rad to be with and many others in Rad would have left long ago if it wasnt for the money they get each week. That is one of the main reasons your are the ONLY one on here defending them.

Thank you, Torm, we are all better informed now.

Kingpiccolo - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Opinions change, Radiance for all it's flaws is still the most friendly guild I've been in. I my self have no true goal or intention so wherever I go I follow the rules there as long as they're reasonable...

So, king Pickle-o is a self-admitted spineless character with “no true goal or intention”.
Having a collectivist mind and no goal of his own, he was quick to abandon Radiance on the wave of general discontent and desertion.

But, having had no reason to have left in the first place, and only vaguely comprehending the grievances expressed by others (as he personally had no qualms about going against the majority or violating the so-called “charter”), he realized he made a mistake. And to top things off, he acutely felt the loss of the weekly money flow.

So, king Poke-olo had crawled back to mama-Charity, beseeching the Great Leader to forgive his rashness and impudence. And as the green midget lay writhing obsequiously in the dust before her, the Great Benefactress had mercy and extended forgiveness for his transgressions, reinstating him to all rights and privileges of the guild.

Not so much because the groveling pickle had much to offer, but rather as a sign to other more valuable deserters, that mama-Charity is ready to forgive-and-forget. To encourage them to come under her mighty motherly wing yet again. Her magnanimity has no bounds..

So the green gnome (but now with a distinctly brown nose) had embarked on a crusade of glorification of Radiance as “the most friendly guild” he’s been in (and that’s putting it mildly!) He resorts to every dirty trick in the book to smear and defame Enrage, where most of the ex-Rad defected. And he extols Radiance to high heaven. Everything they do is just and right. They are pixilated angels, no more no less.

Yes, keep doing your thing, kingy, lest you fall from grace of the Great Leader, and find yourself penniless under a bridge in Sanctuary. But the truth is out. You’re a lying spineless Janus-faced wraith of a pickle. b:bye

Kingpiccolo - Heavens Tear

Nice story, false though. Nice try however, but I think I know a bit more about my self than you guys can assume.

Cat, if your writing skills are obviously lacking then yes, it IS your fault. I don't act like I'm right all the time, I admit my mistake and change my position, unlike you.

I have not said once that your posts do not matter, but Hisui's matter just as much. Not once have I argued who is more correct. I'm just saying that things you say conflict with what Hisui says and you yourself admit that neither of you know what's going to happen for sure.

You still don't seem to be reading what's there. It's a moot point now but what in the 9 **** made you guys think that Triad would be more of a challenge than Radiance who are almost equal in top 50 rankings. But obviously you guys made the wrong decision and are willing to admit that, just hope it doesn't happen again.

I've already commented on the Agenda issue and you obviously can't read and simply repeated yourself. You don't irritate me at all I'm afraid, reading your post simply makes me feel that you are dropping the IQ of the PWI population point by point. So keep pursuing that agenda, maybe you'll have success some day.

Since when have I loved double standards? Since your epic fail in the KS thread? Quit making stuff up Cat, you too Krasava, and xtrm9 if you're here. Also, quit repeating yourself when the statement has already been refuted, it's very lame.

xtrm9

Kingpiccolo - Heavens Tear wrote: »

OMG blah blah.... I posted so much **** i cannot myself understand. Cat you got a problem with me ? Guess what , i am gonna run to my mommy (june) and after taking feed i will make her kill you with her crappy lvl 60 gear. And you know whats more in line for you ?
Guess guess ...... yeah more **** comments by me pickle man . So what if i don't understand english. i don't have to understand anything to make posts. We at radiance are like this
.

b:byeb:byeb:bye

Cat - Heavens Tear

b:chuckle KP getting really "serious" now.

I have already commented on the agenda position too, more times than I can count. And look whose now turning to insults..

Yes I am single handedly lowering the PWI IQ because I dont let KP win his little verbal forum debates. Thats very rich. Are you going to insult my mom next?

And my epic fail in the KS thread? and which epic fail would that be? The one where I have 10 people quoting me, pointing and laughing? Oh no wait thats your post not mine.

Now Im making stuff up lol, and which stuff would that be exactly? That I think your a hypocrit and have double standards? No sorry I didnt make that up its truely how I feel.

And I love when you throw the comments at me that I get to throw right back at you. So here you go. Quit repeating yourself when the statement has already been refuted, it's very lame.

If you want to try to push Enrage into attacking Rad your barking up the wrong tree, as Hisui DID say my vote is to attack Rad ASAP. YOU need to work on the other Enrage members now and please do. Im sure some simple conversations with you with most of them will be enough to push them into attacking Rad. I have done all I could in my efforts to get them to do it. Why dont you go have at them big boy.

Szioul - Heavens Tear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PeXNurZdp0

Inna - Heavens Tear

blah blah blah blah blah.

Kingpiccolo - Heavens Tear

I get to be the guy in the pink shirt!