Phoenix skills

Zoe - Heavens Tear
Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
edited March 2009 in Venomancer
Got the bird and have a question about it.

I've noticed it has a crazy attack speed, which allowed it at level 52 to kill level 82 monsters that I grind on without much trouble, although I do steal agro a lot. I gave it bash as its 4th move however it takes too long to cast and really throws off the crazy DPS the bird puts out with normal hits.

I'm looking for a fast casting high damage skill that isn't flesh ream.

A bit off topic but, did they have to make it sound like a foxwing?
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Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
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  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Got the bird and have a question about it.

    I've noticed it has a crazy attack speed, which allowed it at level 52 to kill level 82 monsters that I grind on without much trouble, although I do steal agro a lot. I gave it bash as its 4th move however it takes too long to cast and really throws off the crazy DPS the bird puts out with normal hits.

    I'm looking for a fast casting high damage skill that isn't flesh ream.

    A bit off topic but, did they have to make it sound like a foxwing?


    Are you really complaining about the dps from the phoenix? Get it up to your level and you'll never be able to steal aggro from it.

    Also-pet skills all have the same cast time. You don't have a whole lot of options. Bash-physical, then you have the elemental equivalents, flesh ream for a dot, and then there's the debuff skills.
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  • Fatalvenom - Lost City
    Fatalvenom - Lost City Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    My nix at my level holds aggro 100% of the time with or without skill usage. Even when I am full up nuking the target with everything I have.

    I usually always use flight when I am leveling grinding as a launching platform for my nix. This keeps it from getting caught on hills a lot (since bird is attacking from sky down). It also keeps me up and off the ground that way things hit me less.
  • Ownt - Lost City
    Ownt - Lost City Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    My nix at my level holds aggro 100% of the time with or without skill usage. Even when I am full up nuking the target with everything I have.

    I usually always use flight when I am leveling grinding as a launching platform for my nix. This keeps it from getting caught on hills a lot (since bird is attacking from sky down). It also keeps me up and off the ground that way things hit me less.

    You only do half-damage though.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I was never worried too much about agro I just want a decent pvp skill thats not flesh ream yet does good damage. Sometimes people duel my pets for fun. Level 56 phoenix now.
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    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Sigr - Heavens Tear
    Sigr - Heavens Tear Posts: 280 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Until the phoenix starts getting closer to your level, you will keep pulling aggro.
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  • NecroVaL - Heavens Tear
    NecroVaL - Heavens Tear Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I find Flesh Ream good... It does decent dmg, and can hold aggro...
    I'm fighting abt lvl 50 mobs with my lvl 30 pheonix, and don't have problem in stealing aggro at all.. Well,and I usually press on F1, which is the Venomous Scrub... never use other skill, especially ironwood, as it has higher dmg...
  • Carebear - Harshlands
    Carebear - Harshlands Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I was never worried too much about agro I just want a decent pvp skill thats not flesh ream yet does good damage. Sometimes people duel my pets for fun. Level 56 phoenix now.

    Then your options are basically either flesh ream or bash.

    Stop pretending to gimp yourself to try and be different.

    Or you could go with screamshock (whatever it's called here) just to be annoying.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Then your options are basically either flesh ream or bash.

    Stop pretending to gimp yourself to try and be different.

    Or you could go with screamshock (whatever it's called here) just to be annoying.

    I don't see how not using a broken skill hurts me in any way.
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    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Vinat - Sanctuary
    Vinat - Sanctuary Posts: 1,200 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    lol zoe. i thought you were gonna get flesh ream and put it on your nix to test and see. i still maintain that it's not broken. people for some reason cant comprehend that high attack + bleed = strong bleed. in pvp the damage is reduced. flesh ream's bleed still equates to a little over 1.5 of a normal hit WITH the damage reduction.

    also you could always just not use it for pvp. for pve its good. helps to kill **** faster.
  • Dioica - Sanctuary
    Dioica - Sanctuary Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I'm looking for a fast casting high damage skill that isn't flesh ream.

    Phoenixes do not come with doodoo, do they? In the venomancer guide, I read how you can find this skill in the dragon temple event.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Its called pounce here and yes the bird starts with it but a move that only works once every 60 seconds and is only useful if the monster is actually stunned is to worthless to even have.
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    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Sabai - Heavens Tear
    Sabai - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Hey Zoe,
    This might help.
    Someone on another thread brought up a debate between bash and roar for the herc, so I tested it on my golem. It does in tests pull agro very well, I can hit a mob for 17000 and it still will roar and get agro back. That's better then bash or ream even at lev 1.
    Considering roar is only 150K it would be an excellent choice for leveling a pet or for anyone who draws too much agro from the pet in reg play. Certainly for a tanking skill with a wizard in the party. It only seems to effect the targeted mob, which is too bad for AOE. It is close ranged, so a slow pet will have to get close to cast. It has a 15 sec cool down which helps for AOE (my secondary attack on everything.)

    I spent 2.3 million adding bash/ream to the frog, this would have saved me a fortune >< So to anyone leveling a pet you plan to reskill later, add roar it will save you a lot of time and you may even keep it.

    This would only be useful for a nix while leveling it, thought it might help for that frustrating time.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Well its a higher level now and I don't steal agro as easy. I prefer a skill that does damage though.
    Main characters
    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91