Deciding on a Server

Prewancker - Lost City

Evidence? Any citations of studies whatsoever?

Zoe - Heavens Tear

The evidence is in the general people. Even experienced actors have a hard time acting out a part that goes against there beliefs. (I know from personal experience, and others I know)

Everyone knows the rule "don't do something to someone that you would not want them to do to you" yet there are scammers and hackers. However the moment they get scammed or **** they go on a rampage. Also the mentality I find in most people "if it doesn't directly affect me I don't care"

A great deal of lost city players, and the rest of the servers for that matter, would not hesitate to kill someone if there was no rule against it, they would be very willing to scam, steal, becase "**** you all, only I matter"

Lessie - Lost City

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

How people act in a game is a direct connection to how they act in real life. Been proven over and over.

Actually it has been dis proven over and over and over.
The ones that say it's true r the ones who usually say playing counter strike will make you go school with a gun, parents that blame their mistake at raising their child choose to blame the game instead of accepting their responsibility.

An example of this last one is when a kid buried himself after watching gaara use sand in naruto, all the media start saying that naruto is making kids go violent and shouldnt be allowed bla bla bla if the parents had taken the time to make sure their kid knows the difference between FANTASY (aka online mobs, pixels, etc.) and REALITY (real living creatures) then the whole issue would've been avoided.

I dont think zoe's parents made sure she could tell the difference between fantasy and reality, we can see that in her posts....

Or because someone died playing starcraft too much then starcraft is bad
Or someone suicide after playing wow then wow is bad
etc. etc.


BTW when discussing this with zoe, make sure you check her posts here
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=1433062#post1433062

They include

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

"The people are just mobs, they are in my way. I'm trying to get a promotion in my job and that guy was in my way so I killed him. Gets me killing exp. and levels me up to the next position."

Comparing online data to killing RL ppl.

and

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

People IRL are also killable. So just because they are, there should be no penalty for killing them? That's your way of thinking.

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You say "its just a mob" in the game, which translates to "its just a person" IRL.

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote:

Take a look at what I found.

In December 2007, a Russian man was beaten to death over an argument in the MMORPG (name removed per forums rules). The man was killed when his guild and a rival guild challenged each other to a brawl in the real world

In October 2004, a 41-year-old Chinese man named Qiu Chengwei stabbed 26-year-old Zhu Caoyuan to death over a dispute regarding the sale of a virtual weapon the two had jointly won in the game (name removed per forum rules).

"Just a mob" to you "just a person" to them.

This last one is a logical fallacy btw, 1 person going crazy over a game doesnt mean its proven that people will go crazy over the game.

Zoe is someone who seriously compares killing ONLINE MOBS/PIXELS to REAL LIVING HUMANS.
Pathetic.

Zoe - Heavens Tear

Actually the CS thing HAS happened, but it was with doom instead. Funny how you guys hate it when I use your own logic against you. Perfect example of what I already said.

Lessie - Lost City

Yah so because some kid cant tell the difference between reality and fantasy it means violent games = kids will go violent.

Funny how you ignored the rest of the post b:laugh

Prewancker - Lost City

Thank you Lessie. I think the argument has been sufficiently exhausted.

Zoe - Heavens Tear

Oh just wait, when I go on my pk rampage using YOUR logic you'll be my first target. "the world is open pk, there should be no rules against it." You have said that yourself. If you think you are so big and bad, go do some real life pking for once. Until then you are just a bunch of moronic humans that don't know jack about how things really are.

You who fear consequences, so you hide behind a character and dolls in this game and don't have the guts to try it in real life. My sig says all.

Ever played Star Ocean 3? We may very well be just characters in an mmo to someone else. Life is "just a game" right?

Prewancker - Lost City

Wow Zoe. Congratulations on escalating an online argument to a real life threat. I guess this proves your view of an utter lack of conscience, but only in yourself. Your mention of using our logic is getting old. Our logic is that a PVP server has a set of rules for player killing that differ significantly from the real world, and that if you CHOOSE to play on that server, you should learn to deal with the consequences. In the real world, you can't choose whether or not you can be killed. In an online game, you can.

I don't play this game to hide behind a character, genius. Thanks for suggesting that I go kill someone. I can totally see your regard for human life now.

Lessie - Lost City

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Oh just wait, when I go on my pk rampage using YOUR logic you'll be my first target. "the world is open pk, there should be no rules against it."
No there are no rules agaisnt pk rampages in the pvp server of this online GAME, there are rules agaisnt it in RL.

You have said that yourself. If you think you are so big and bad, go do some real life pking for once.
I'll pass, I like fighting in online games but I respect human life. I can tell the difference between real life and online pixels tyvm.


Until then you are just a bunch of moronic humans that don't know jack about how things really are.
Until I kill in real life I'm a moronic human, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmk

You who fear consequences, so you hide behind a character and dolls in this game and don't have the guts to try it in real life. My sig says all.
Rephrase: I who can tell the difference between videogame fun and real life killing .... fear consequences of...... killing online pixels?
Your sig says we are cowards because we pk in the pk server but not in real life? WTF HOW **** CAN YOU GET? WTF does PVP fights in a PVP server got to do with real life MURDER?
You amaze me more and more everyday.

Zoe you should re-read http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=1691902&posted=1#post1691742

Lessie - Lost City wrote: »

Actually it has been dis proven over and over and over.
The ones that say it's true r the ones who usually say playing counter strike will make you go school with a gun, parents that blame their mistake at raising their child choose to blame the game instead of accepting their responsibility.

An example of this last one is when a kid buried himself after watching gaara use sand in naruto, all the media start saying that naruto is making kids go violent and shouldnt be allowed bla bla bla if the parents had taken the time to make sure their kid knows the difference between FANTASY (aka online mobs, pixels, etc.) and REALITY (real living creatures) then the whole issue would've been avoided.

I dont think zoe's parents made sure she could tell the difference between fantasy and reality, we can see that in her posts....

Or because someone died playing starcraft too much then starcraft is bad
Or someone suicide after playing wow then wow is bad
etc. etc.

Sadly b:surrender I cant find the link to a youtube video of an interview between representatives of this conflict, where the guy that said violent games make normal kids go violent got beaten badly in the debate.
You really need some psychiatric help, normal people dont say what you said in your last post.
Or at least some kind of guidance to learn the difference between FANTASY and REALITY.

NuNuie - Lost City

Lol, I think I'm in love with Lessie. She's always getting into it with that nub Zoe and it always makes me laugh how much hardcore evidence to prove Zoe's stupidity she has. I love it! b:pleased

aryannamage

Flaming and trolling is kinda against the rules guys and girls.

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