Unasked-for Buffs

Brotherdave - Heavens Tear
Brotherdave - Heavens Tear Posts: 32 Arc User
edited February 2009 in Cleric
Please look for any active buffs on players that you clerics are randomly buffing. In the past few weeks, I've had several different clerics "ninja" buff me when I have a Flourish Orb activated. This orb gives a 50/50 recovery rate on HP/MP. I'm not sure, being a Barb, what the skill is called but was told by a lvl 61 cleric that the cleric skill at lvl 10 is only 10/10. Florish Orbs, if you didn't know already, takes 20 fleece-flower roots and 15 tuckahoe to manufacture. This means a little time to farm. The herbs, bought at a catshop, can run from average 800 to 1200 per on tuckahoe and 1000 to 1300 per on f-f root, which,if you do the math, makes the orb cost around 30,000 coin each. To me, it's not worth it to lose 40/40 on my buff. While in certain situations a random buff is nice, please at least check to see if the person you are buffing really wants it. End Rant.
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Orbs go for 3k each if you buy them, herbs for that dont go over 500coins.
    Check all the shops before you buy a herb for 1k lol.
    And all other classes usually say "hey you dumb cleric, buff me".
    So its not our fault if we go on a random buffing spree.
    b:dirty
  • Brotherdave - Heavens Tear
    Brotherdave - Heavens Tear Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    ok. I guess I'm not a thrifty buyer then but in west archo, those prices for the herbs are about average. If you know where I can get those herbs for only 500 each then PM me.b:laugh And even at 500 each, thats still 17500 per orb if you strictly buy the herbs. My point was that it's not that hard to see when someone already has buffs before buffing someone randomly or maybe take the time to ask first.
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Happens to me in FBs or short TTs when there is another cleric.
    I use orbs as well ^_^ so i know the feeling.

    About herbs. Tucks are around 100-200coins, Fleeced flowers are around 400-500coins.
    Where? In west arch lol, and only for a short time cause, yes they sell quick at those prices.

    So lets say you find them at those prices, thats around 10k for 5orbs.
    So each orb 2k.
    Better option, buy tucks, collect fleeced flowers, in 1h you can have around 100 of them thats 25 orbs. ^^
    b:dirty
  • nightfeather
    nightfeather Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Why buff HP/MP if the player already has that buff?
  • jemima
    jemima Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Because clerics don't always see that the player does have that buff.

    It sometimes takes a while for player buffs to refresh, as it were, and show up.
    I know I've accidentally buffed people who didn't need it because when I checked them they weren't listed as having any buffs.

    Although this is more an issue with the buff listing next to players in a party list, rather than randoms you've selected.
  • lennea
    lennea Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    And all other classes usually say "hey you dumb cleric, buff me".

    Haha, dear lord I am so sick of that! xD So many random people follow me around and ask for buffs, and sometimes if I don't buff them they kill me, and sometimes they just wait for me to buff them, hit me so I turn pinkish and then kill me.

    If I didn't love the rest of being a cleric so much, I'd quit. =P
  • Belial - Heavens Tear
    Belial - Heavens Tear Posts: 972 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    lennea wrote: »
    hit me so I turn pinkish

    Your name doesn't turn pink if you get hit, only if you hit back to defend yourself.
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    jemima wrote: »
    It sometimes takes a while for player buffs to refresh, as it were, and show up.

    I have noticed other people having buffs when I use my only buff on them.

    Perhaps clerics could see player buffs if they used some buff other than celestial seal for their first one?

    b:question
  • Asgenar - Lost City
    Asgenar - Lost City Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Belial - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Your name doesn't turn pink if you get hit, only if you hit back to defend yourself.

    if the cleric buffs the hitter while getting hit, then the cleric will go pink.
  • Faustinna - Heavens Tear
    Faustinna - Heavens Tear Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    It's usualy lower lvl clerics who don't realise your hp/mp buff overwrites anything they have. And just so we're clear, even at rank 10 it's 10hp/10mp a second. You'll have that in your 50's. By then you can use flourish orbs which are 50/50 a second. And you can always see the buffs under someones name. Red humanoid figure (hp regen), blue humanoid figure (mp regen).

    It's a good deed to randomly buff someone so they're not doing it out of spite or malice. It's just ignorance they don't know they're actually making it worst with that one. Especially when they over write your 50/50 orb with a 1/1 rank 1 buff huh dave? b:chuckle
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  • Keyne - Heavens Tear
    Keyne - Heavens Tear Posts: 202 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    This is why I took that buff off my macro. Way pointless
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  • SeraWind - Heavens Tear
    SeraWind - Heavens Tear Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Good thing I find that hp/mp buff useless and left it at lvl one. I never buff people with it. Only time I do is when a barb and bm whine about not having it (at which point I just toss them one for show +1/1 hp/mp rec ftw). If I'm feeling generous I just toss a focus powder at them.
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    You think that 5k pill cost a lot? Do you know what it cost to max that buff?
  • Faustinna - Heavens Tear
    Faustinna - Heavens Tear Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    No but you pretty much have to get the 1hour version of the hp/mp buff for grouping. Groups will complain and moan and cry if you dont give them that buff. And the higher level you go without the group version, the more chance you'll come across another cleric who has it who will make you look bad by not having it.

    I know it sounds so petty and small but it's true. I've tried explaining to people how useless that 10/10 is, in combat it does almost nothing, but that doesn't work. They want hp/mp buff, and if another cleric has the party version and you don't, they'll say you're a bad cleric. Even thought the other cleric has no mp charms, cant keep anyone alive, etc.

    So save yourself the hassle and just max it and get the party version. You'll be glad you did just to avoid the BS. And yes horrible waste of SP and coins. You're easily looking at 500k spirit to max it and get the group version.
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  • Cyanea - Lost City
    Cyanea - Lost City Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Faustinna - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I know it sounds so petty and small but it's true. I've tried explaining to people how useless that 10/10 is, in combat it does almost nothing, but that doesn't work.

    10mp/sec would be one 60 mana skill every six seconds.

    Unless you spend every single moment in FBs in combat?
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    The period you stay away from combat in FBs is small to non.
    Tab holders usually wants it fast and faster, so yeah that 10 HP/MP is nothing.
    b:dirty
  • Cyanea - Lost City
    Cyanea - Lost City Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The period you stay away from combat in FBs is small to non.
    Tab holders usually wants it fast and faster, so yeah that 10 HP/MP is nothing.

    For example, in Fb59, wined, you might spend half an hour fighting maybe a dozen or two monsters?

    And I remember long runs without fighting in FB39.

    Or, in FB51...
    b:surprised
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Some one always rushes ahead, so even if you stay 10 sec away from combat.
    Thats about 3sec until you stop glowing red in your left upper corner and 70mp gained is nothing.
    And ppl cry about it, but they all use powders/orbs/pots lol.
    b:dirty
  • mogwai
    mogwai Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    agreed, these have to be the most useless buffs in game

    when i'm grinding solo (non-cleric), i have my own buffs, then it seems it's always some lv 30'ish cleric comes along & gives me their wonderful +3/+2 LOL....this makes it not always noticeable when my own wear off & have died on occasion from not noticing

    not to mention, for venomancers that live on the edge of drawing aggro from their pets, the magic damage buff can mean 1/2 hour of cautious casting = zzzZZZZzzzz

    the gesture is appreciated, but not always welcome..save your buffs for FB's, TW's, & world bosses please

    the way i counter this (loosing all built up chi) is by re-logging----worth it, imo
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