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  • Lessie - Lost City
    Lessie - Lost City Posts: 917 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Lycorys - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No one likes rollbacks, but if you truly can read then you'll find hundreds of reasons why it was demanded by so many here on the forums. In short, it would have completely neutralized the unfair advantage, where the answer our GMs chose clears up very little, again to all appearances from our side. Perpetraitors are not punished, and lose very little if anything.

    o rlly a bunch of reasons, let's see what the gms say:
    I'll make it big enough for all of u to read

    xarfox wrote: »
    Let me clarify what we meant by "suspension". Accounts that were flagged for exploiting have been suspended so that they can be fully investigated. Appropriate punishment will follow.

    There will not be a rollback. We realize that some of you may not be happy with that course of action but based on the logs and information on our side, this is the most appropriate resolution.

    You can be assured that PWE has learned from this experience and we will not allow a situation like this transpire ever again.

    Re-read this just in case:

    There will not be a rollback. .... this is the most appropriate resolution.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    ^^ Made by Saitada ^^

    Dieho: I win 15 on 1, I roll all of your guild to sz all by myself !
    Lessie: Proof?
    Dieho: I dont have any, but my word is more than enough.
    Lessie: Well I won 33 on 1 the other day :D
    b:cute
  • Falls - Sanctuary
    Falls - Sanctuary Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Xarfox's post only declared that their would be no rollback.

    It in no way justified it.
    It was purely an argument from authority, that they know what is best (with their super secret information that they made a good profit off of this maybe?).

    We can rest assured now because he said I could xD.

    But if that was supposed to shut me up, it failed as badly as their last patch.
  • Lessie - Lost City
    Lessie - Lost City Posts: 917 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Falls - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Xarfox's post only declared that their would be no rollback.

    You expect them to give you all the logs and info that made them decide this?

    Ooookkkk....
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    ^^ Made by Saitada ^^

    Dieho: I win 15 on 1, I roll all of your guild to sz all by myself !
    Lessie: Proof?
    Dieho: I dont have any, but my word is more than enough.
    Lessie: Well I won 33 on 1 the other day :D
    b:cute
  • Falls - Sanctuary
    Falls - Sanctuary Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Lessie - Lost City wrote: »
    You expect them to give you all the logs and info that made them decide this?

    Ooookkkk....

    I don't expect them to do anything.

    I just know that what they provided was not a justification, and it did not address any of my concerns, therefore I will continue to complain.
  • Lycorys - Heavens Tear
    Lycorys - Heavens Tear Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Wow bravo Lessie very maturely handled there, and once again demonstrating your mastery of completely missing the point. If you're interested in what you missed scroll back up to one of Falls posts, or actually read one of mine, instead of just scanning through for something to pick on.

    lol And on a side note, the more avidly you defend this the more it makes you look like someone who prospered from others during it. I was just curious if you realize that yet?
    "Let not your outrage for injustice end where your selfishness begins"
  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Hey, can we not argue about this? The point of this thread was to ask the GMs if the devs have any plans to fix the remaining glitched coin (and/or products made from said coin) in the future. Perhaps for my own selfish reasons I'm also wondering if they'll make up the TW to us somehow because we would have owned Evolution without fail, and we don't want the money we bid: we want fairness (AND HECK WE WANT OUR LANDb:chuckleb:laughb:angry).

    I opened this thread already knowing no rollback is going to happen and etc. etc. so argue about rollbacks elsewhere.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    ಥ_ಥ MOAR.
    SkyKoC - How long is yours?
  • Falls - Sanctuary
    Falls - Sanctuary Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Hey, can we not argue about this? The point of this thread was to ask the GMs if the devs have any plans to fix the glitched coin (and/or products made from said coin) in the future. Perhaps for my own selfish reasons I'm also wondering if they'll make up the TW to us somehow because we would have owned Evolution without fail, and we don't want the money we bid: we want fairness (AND HECK WE WANT OUR LANDb:chuckleb:laughb:angry).

    I opened this thread already knowing no rollback is going to happen and etc. etc. so argue about rollbacks elsewhere.

    My faction was also the only one attacking on Friday on Sanctuary. We defended tonight against the same faction...took less than 7 minutes (with some of us not there -quit-), so thanks PW for doubly **** me xD. I learned that pleas for fairness go entirely unheeded in this game if it requires any effort on their part b:cute.
  • Lycorys - Heavens Tear
    Lycorys - Heavens Tear Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    I too knew from the moment the servers came back up that no rollback was coming. What I wanted was to know why they chose to allow cheaters to win this time. And even if they catch every single glitch abuser, which is unlikely, and perma ban them without fail, the damage they caused is still here. So Why oh why did they chose to half fix it when they could have fully fixed it. Some people seemed determined to side-track us from this point with arguments that already have threads devoted specifically to them however.

    The only way to deny a mischief maker victory is to either stop them before they strike, or clean it up so completely that its like it never happened. . in this case, neither was done.
    "Let not your outrage for injustice end where your selfishness begins"
  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Falls - Sanctuary wrote: »
    My faction was also the only one attacking on Friday on Sanctuary. We defended tonight against the same faction...took less than 7 minutes (with some of us not there -quit-), so thanks PW for doubly **** me xD. I learned that pleas for fairness go entirely unheeded in this game if it requires any effort on their part b:cute.

    I'm hoping that's not the case. Grats on your victory!

    My faction unfortunately overestimated the competition and rolled two defense wars in 15 minutes while leaving the third because we thought we didn't have enough people.....If we knew it was so easy I think we'd have tried to take all 3. b:shutupb:sadb:cry
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    ಥ_ಥ MOAR.
    SkyKoC - How long is yours?
  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    From my own personal experience with GM Xarfox in this game as well as 2 others I have played that he has worked for, I know that he is not one given to spewing a line of BS just because the powers that be tell him to. If he says they looked at all the options and took what they felt was the most reasonable course of action, while I may still disagree with that course of action, I believe that they did look carefully and try their best to fix this with a minimal disruption to the players.

    Again, I don't agree with the course they took. But w/o all the information (and we truly do NOT have all the information) All we can do is speculate as to why they took this particular path. Xarfox has stated it was the most feasable option they had. I believe him. Heck for all we know their backup data may have been corrupted and they couldn't do a rollback (and trust me when I say this.. it's surprisingly easy for data to become corrupted).

    Anyhoo Nuf said, I'm gonna go grind.

    ~Saitada

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